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Posted by Mark Kelsall (Member # 2184) on August 28, 2010, 06:57 AM:
 
Hello,

I have been searching the net for days now trying to understand if Kodak's 100D will work in Bauer cameras and in particular the 709XL & 209XL but cannot make sense of it all!

Can anyone explain in simple terms if these cameras will work with 100D without manual compensation?

My other options are a Canon 814 AZ or a Minolta XL84
 
Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on August 28, 2010, 09:00 PM:
 
Mark,

Welcome to the 8mm Forum! The Bauer 709XL is expecting either 40 or 160 ASA film so it would require you to adjust the exposure manually. I use the 715XL and have to correct manually.

The Cannon 814AZ can correctly expose for ASA 64 but I don't know how it handles the 100 speed film.

You can look up camera models on the Super 8 Wiki site.

You can also download a pdf about this very subject from here.


Doug
 
Posted by Alexander Vandeputte (Member # 1803) on August 29, 2010, 03:29 AM:
 
The Canon 814 AZ is supposed to accept all speeds, but I haven't tried this with my camera yet. I also have the Canon 814 AZ Electronic and I shot a lot of E100D this summer and it came out great!
 
Posted by Mark Kelsall (Member # 2184) on August 30, 2010, 02:46 AM:
 
Thanks guys. I have therefore decided to purchase a Minolta XL84 from a Super 8 dealer called 'Super8arena' who inform me that this camera will work fine with 100D.

My understanding of these things is that whilst initially the camera will think think the film is 160'T'from the notch, the film cartridge will also push out the daylight filter, which brings things down to 100'D'.

I'll let you know how I get on!

Not used Cine for 20 years so quite excited to be back.

Cheers,
Mark
 
Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on August 30, 2010, 09:15 AM:
 
Mark,

Please keep us updated!

Doug
 
Posted by Mark Kelsall (Member # 2184) on September 07, 2010, 07:38 AM:
 
Hi Doug,

Well on further reading on the net, it seems that 100D is notched the same as the old 160 "G" film, so in my Minolta (which is an XL camera so designed to work with 160G) the film will be misread as 160ASA and underexposed?

I have taken the camera outside today with the 100D cart in and taken a reading. (my garden with a sunny sky) and it reads f 22 which seems high to me.

The Minolta has the following meter reads -
45 . 22 . 11 . 5.6 . 4. 2.8 . 2 . 1.4

If I need to open the aperature up by 2/3 from f 22, where would the light reading needle be on the above scale?

Hope you can help.

Mark
 


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