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Posted by Rob Buttrum (Member # 1182) on April 11, 2011, 11:27 PM:

im working on an experimental 8mm film that i am planning on doing a lot of fast editing so tons of cuts and splices. so im trying to figure out some options. i came across a hot film splicer and it looks awesome, but i have a few questions.

1. how exactly does it work? (does it just melt the film together?)
2. how good of a splice is it, does it hold up?
3. does it have to be poly film only or can it be acetone?
4.anyone have any experience / pros or cons to these machines?

-Thank you any help would be great!!!

-Rob

EDIT** just found out its still a cement splicer, just warms / drys the glue faster, still anyone have anything to say about these machines??

Posted by Dino Everette (Member # 1378) on April 12, 2011, 01:25 AM:

It has to be acetate film as you cannot use cement on polyester film, you would need an ultrasonic splicer.. They are great splicers for a brand new production (provided your cement is good), but not so good on older films since the only way to make splices is to cut frames

Posted by Jim Schrader (Member # 9) on April 12, 2011, 09:43 AM:

I have one of these Maier Hancock yes they are nice but you loose frames not bad if there is no talking basically the splicer has a scrapper once the film is cut you scrap the emulsion from one of the ends of the film then apply the cement bring the 2 ends together in which they overlap the cement bonds them together and with the mild heat applied help the cement dry faster. here is a video of how it works hope it plays.you will need quicktime installed to view it.
http://www.folkstreams.net/vafp/video/VAFP_29//VAFP_29-mp4.mov

Posted by Rob Buttrum (Member # 1182) on April 12, 2011, 03:34 PM:

thanks!

also have a few more quick questions:

when splicing with cement, there is no way not to "lose frames" correct? because the emulsion has to be scraped and the film overlapped to make the splice. correct?

Posted by Dino Everette (Member # 1378) on April 12, 2011, 05:55 PM:

Correct, the only way not to is if you have a film with an existing splice that has come apart it is possible to re-splice that section without losing a frame, but all new splice lose frames [Frown]

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