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Posted by Michael Wright (Member # 1387) on November 29, 2011, 10:54 AM:

Hi has anyone tried this? What are the results like and do you need to adjust the automatic exposure setting? Thanks MIKE

Posted by Christian Bjorgen (Member # 1780) on November 29, 2011, 01:33 PM:

I did this with an LCD screen, but it turned out on the dark and blue side. Fully watchable, but somewhat dark and blue.

Would post screens if I had any.

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on November 29, 2011, 01:54 PM:

Yes I did.

I use a VP and throw it at the shortest distance possible (hence brightest picture). I used a E64T (Tungsten) with internal filter engaged (no. 85). This stock was known to get blueish tone.

Here is the screen shot:

Please note that at that time I projected the VP to computer casing case which has orange skin surface, so you will notice that sort of "grains". But if you project the VP to white plain paper it will make better result.

Here is the whole story: Shooting with super 8mm (E64T), review for dummies

I am not sure how it will work with today's E100D because E100D is for Daylight shooting. I don't know if we have to disengage the internal filter or not.

Any suggestion guys?

cheers

Posted by Bryan Chernick (Member # 1998) on November 29, 2011, 02:03 PM:

I do this on both Regular 8mm and Super 8. I usually create the titles in Word with a black background and big bold white letters. With Regular 8mm I use the lowest aperture and zoom in from about 3 feet. With super 8 I zoom in from a few feet and use the auto exposure. If you have a high resolution LCD screen the results are pretty good. Sometimes I even scroll the text on the screen. I used E100D without a filter.

Right now I'm waiting for a roll of Regular 8mm film to come back from the lab. I used a Bolex P2 and experimented with a fade using the variable shutter on the camera. I faded out the title. I then back-wound the film and faded in with a time lapse view of the ocean with clouds rolling by. I hope it turned out ok.

Posted by Maurizio Di Cintio (Member # 144) on November 30, 2011, 01:56 AM:

I did this too, more or less like others have described, except I calculate aperture using a 25% grey screen, made via Word and using a text box filled with this "colour", when shooting white titles on black background. This way the photocell isn't fooled by the high amount of black and the titles are reasonably burnt-out (transparent) without loosing detail.

Recently I have tried with E100 D without filter (as, at least teoretically, the LCD colour tem is closer to daylight than to tungsten), but the resukt have been ot satisfactory, as I got a rather unpleasant bluish cast. This prompts for further investigation, maybe using an 85 filter, regardless of how stupid this could seem. At this point, if I were in Michael's shoes, I'd shoot both with filter and without.

Posted by Michael Wright (Member # 1387) on November 30, 2011, 06:09 AM:

Thanks everyone for the advice. I'm going to film the titles which have a blue background so a blue cast shouldn't be too noticable. MIKE

Posted by Maurizio Di Cintio (Member # 144) on November 30, 2011, 10:11 AM:

You still might get some bluish cast on the whites of the titles: perhaps you shoud keep the background color a little darker and at the same time, overexpose a little bit: this way the titles should result in plain white.

Let us know how it turns out.
Good luck.

Maurizio

Posted by Michael Wright (Member # 1387) on November 30, 2011, 05:15 PM:

Maurizio, I think I'll try exposing at the auto reading and 1 stop under and 1 stop over and see which come out the best. Will definitely let you know the results. MIKE

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