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Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on April 06, 2012, 12:53 PM:

Could someone perhaps give a history on here about what I call the deluxe super 8 sound cameras that, as far as I know, came out after the heyday of super 8. I see them occassionally on ebay and boy, do they go for a high price!

Is the image that they give on super even sharper then what the standard supwer 8 cameras gave in the 60's and 70's?

What was the best camera?
Were any actually made with a scope lense on them?
Were any actually made with stereo recording sound heads on them?

I thank all ahead of time for thier imput!

OSI

Posted by John Davis (Member # 1184) on April 06, 2012, 02:08 PM:

Hi Osi,
this is new one to me - do you have any links to ebay listings, I'm very curious

Posted by Alexander Vandeputte (Member # 1803) on April 06, 2012, 02:30 PM:

Not all the top end cameras could record sound, some were silent.
As for the best camera, well the jury is still out... It is like the 'best projector' debate. Each camera will have it's own pros and cons. I personally like and use the Canon 814XLS and 1014XLS the most. Good optics, reliable mechanics and accurate light metering make them very good for typical 'run and gun' style super 8 shooting.
For professional use there are the Beaulieu and Leicina's with interchangeable optics and all manual exposure control.

Top end super 8 cameras that still command top prices are:

Nikon R10 (silent)
Leicina special from Leica (silent)
Beaulieu 4008 (silent)
Beaulieu 6008 and 7008 PRO (sound)
Canon 814 XLS and 1014 XLS (sound)

To my knowledge there were no cameras that could record stereo.
Scope lenses are always attachments, so no camera ever comes with a built in scope lens.

Posted by Claus Harding (Member # 702) on April 06, 2012, 06:24 PM:

To add to Alexander's post, the Braun Nizo sound cams were (potentially) lovely, yet as the early 80es wore on, their top model, the 6080, apparently became something of an albatross. Why? The company went down the drain, and quality control went with it.

I had three Nizo sound cameras and they ran beautifully and had lovely Schneider optics. The main issue, to this day, is that they ran on one little rubber motor belt which, once it broke, was buried beneath circuit boards, requiring outrageous repairs.

I currently have a Leicina Special and a Nizo Professional. They are not quiet, nor are they particularly lightweight, but they are strong little beasts and they will last to the end of my Super-8 shooting days [Smile]

Claus.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on April 07, 2012, 12:57 PM:

I asked this as I'm curious to conduct a little experiment, which involves another question ...

Would you be able to sync any super 8 cameras to shoot one frame at a time, as a frame is projected? I was thinking about doing a little experiment with a DVD scene, "projected" (so to speak) on a large flat screen computer monitor, (excellent photographic quality)?

Posted by Rudy Velez Jr. (Member # 3191) on May 26, 2013, 03:49 PM:

Is there any place that offers new belts for Nizo 6080 or repairs this cameras?

Posted by Oscar Iniesta (Member # 1731) on May 26, 2013, 03:59 PM:

Osi, are you trying to get a kinescope? The new tv screens are ideal for this. A trailer of a famous last year movie, was done with this thecnique here in Spain with excellent results. But many super 8 fans don´t want to hear about this while others find as natural as all 35mm movies are done the last years. I am one of those romantic guys who don´t like the idea. But sometimes I ask to myself why I loved It´s a Bugs Life.

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