8mm Forum: Elmo st 1200 M vs st 1200 D m

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Posted by Moshe Yitzhak (Member # 2718) on June 11, 2013, 03:41 AM:

Hwllo,

Wanted to know whats the D stands for?

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on June 11, 2013, 04:10 AM:

The DM has an f1.3 lens, whereas the M has the faster f1.1.
I believe this is the only difference.

Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on June 11, 2013, 04:19 AM:

Looking on super8data it looks like a natural progression as they made improvements. I think the first model I had was ST1200MO. If you look at the pictures they were some changes, loop restorer and frame were moved.

I only sold it to get the GS1200 I really wish I had kept it now.

The only word that springs to mind is Deluxe.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on June 11, 2013, 06:16 AM:

What do you think if the GS?

Posted by Lee Bombard (Member # 3740) on June 11, 2013, 08:10 AM:

Isn't there also a difference in the brightness of the bulb as well as differences in the audio output?

Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on June 11, 2013, 02:37 PM:

Tom, I like the GS, although I have not used all its functions, I have used it for recording my own films. It did have too many functions I suppose, the slow motion maybe. The first thing I learned with both ST & GS keep the film path clean after every reel.

When I was first starting out in film I looked at Eumig's Heurtier's ELMO's maybe Noris and a couple of others. I don't think the Beaulieu 708 was out when I bought the GS.

Some of the I looked at projectors were, let's just say a load of crap.

The reason for ELMO was 1200ft reels, optical sound and it seemed very well built. It also had 150w light, although some of the others proberly did too. The same with the GS except 200w light.

When I made recordings on my own shot films the sound was fantastic.

I used to go to the local old folks home one a month to give a show the GS always performed well. Used to hire from FDA, Columbia and Rank. They always enjoyed the shows.

Due to the throw I bought the 25mm-50mm f1.4 the GS still produced a fantastic picture, possibly looking even sharper. I have also f1.0 f1.3 lens too.

Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on June 11, 2013, 03:43 PM:

The Elmo STs were a great little machine for larger film presentation,they had a very good light output, you could fill a living room wall with a very watchable picture.The sound repro
was also very good,the recording was beautifully simple and
easy to use.The failing, and it was a serious one,was the use of
the horrible plastic fittings that eventually wore and spoiled film.
That said,they were also extremely reliable,and to my mind, a far
better machine than Elmo's flagship, the GS1200.

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