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Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on March 20, 2014, 08:31 PM:
Steve Osborne of the Reel Image asked me to post this message:
I just received pricing for the new polyester stock and striping. Factoring in the high postage rates from Europe and the currency exchange rates, the following are the prices for new releases:
A 30 minute digest would be approximately $279.
A 7-8 minute short/cartoon would be approximately $69.
The average trailer would be approximately $35.
So please make your opinions known (post here, call me, email me) as to whether you would pay these prices if you wanted that particular release. By the way, these prices only get me to the break even point.
We have some possibilities in the works, however I don't want to go ahead with any new releases if collectors feel the prices are too high.
I look forward to hearing from you!
Steve Osborne
The Reel Image
937-296-9036
thereelimage_043 at yahoo.com
Posted by Dino Everette (Member # 1378) on March 21, 2014, 01:45 AM:
Short answer is I would pay any of those prices depending on titles...
Long answer I think the short cartoons like the pixar ones or that new Disney, Wallace and Gromit type stuff would always sell well at those prices, good trailers are always fun and seem very reasonable given the fact that labs are scarce..
I still hope for some features to come through, but the digests if desirable ones could sell. I'd love something from the first half of Super 8 when they are making their movie...I would also love to have some cool older horror material like maybe excerpts from things like Creepshow, Tales from the Crypt, the trailers from the Grindhouse ...I think horror and sci-fi are always safe bets for people paying the $279 for 30 minutes...I think the digests would really need to be researched first to make sure a certain amount will sell..I would buy certain titles, but have no real interest in Marvel superheroes...I would offer up 35mm negatives from silent shorts I preserve if people would want them, but it seems nowadays the collectors only want new films, not classics.
Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on March 21, 2014, 03:14 AM:
I wonder if it would be better value to release trailers on a 200ft reel with maybe 4 trailers? The head & tails could be left on.
Like the old Thunderbird reels, or with more trailers the old LA Films 400ft.
Would have to on a theme I think? All the 'Dirty Harry's' the first five 'Pink Panther's' or horror, war, westerns.
Although I would be more choosier over what I buy.
I personally prefer the older releases, the newer stuff does nothing for me, with the odd exception. I was going to mention T2 but that's not really new now.
Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on March 21, 2014, 04:27 AM:
For collectors in the UK the price conversions are:-
30 minute digest.....£175
7/8 minute short.....£43
Trailer..............£22
On top of these is the transportation cost, British Value Added Tax @ 20%, and a Royal Mail handling fee of £8.
Posted by Jonathan Trevithick (Member # 3066) on March 21, 2014, 04:38 AM:
David, the Pink Panthers. Great idea! (not Steve Martin's ones, much as I admire him). I'd also love to see the Terry Gilliam/Monty Python short, "The Crimson Permanent Assurance" released. Realistically, i'm not sure who would buy that except me and Osi!
Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on March 21, 2014, 05:57 AM:
Dino, can you make CINESEA again, maybe another of your nice screenings? - Shorty
Posted by Gary Crawford (Member # 67) on March 21, 2014, 06:34 AM:
Would pay those prices....but not for films I've no interest in. That's the key....finding something for which you have superb original printing material...and something which be of interest to the broadest cross section. Frankly I'm sick of trailers, however.
Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on March 21, 2014, 07:12 AM:
I've never been a huge fan of digests (I prefer extracts actually). So I would be reluctant to spend that much on a digest, although I hate to say "never".
-A 30 minute complete short film that really interested me, I think I would find a way to make it happen. (No morning coffee at work for 6 months?)
The other prices are not out of line given how tiny the market for new Super-8 prints has become.
Wayne Tuell asked a few years ago if there was a market for Super-8 prints of his Drive-In theater daysets and I was all over it. It's possible that I'm the whole market for them based on the end result.
Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on March 21, 2014, 08:02 AM:
Maurice I suppose if they are printed in Germany? The prints could be sent direct to the UK. Cutting out a bit of the postage costs, and no import duty/VAT extras. Unless that is striping/recording needs to be done in America.
Jonathan, Agree about Steve Martin version didn't find it very funny.
Gary I find the modern trailers very poor, some of the older ones, some examples 'Gold' 'Shout At The Devil' 'Zulu' 'Lawrence Of Arabia' 'Where Eagles Dare' 'The Spy Who Loved Me' Moonraker' these were almost 4 minute cut-downs. Now they were good.
Steve, If digest are done 30/60 minutes would be OK. Some of the old 400ft were badly done. Disney had the right idea just a couple of scenes on 1 reel.
Just had a look at Drive-In theatre daysets. Now these would be fantastic to have. I also enjoy some of the older adverts.
Posted by Zechariah Sporre (Member # 2358) on March 21, 2014, 10:12 AM:
I would still be willing to pay that much for some shorts especially for Ice Age shorts and for some Pixar shorts as well. I would love to see Surviving Sid short on 8mm I'm not a trailer or digest person so I wouldn't buy any of those (although I did buy the Captain America digest to help support it).
Posted by Dino Everette (Member # 1378) on March 21, 2014, 12:18 PM:
I do like Steve's idea of extracts over digests, so that you can get some exciting or interesting scenes from a film, rather than someone attempting to re-edit the movie into 30 minutes like the old days..
Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on March 21, 2014, 12:50 PM:
For the UK side of things I think CHC just got a few nice bits in including a new bond sequence and at least one of the great more recent little pixar type shorts and more new items on the way. May be there now.
Best Mark.
Posted by Akshay Nanjangud (Member # 2828) on March 21, 2014, 02:59 PM:
Hi guys.
I am with Zechariah. No trailers or digests for me. Will happily pay $69 for almost any respected short/cartoon.
One question though. How is the sound quality on the 'Captain America' digest? I was surprised to receive visually stunning prints with poor sound from the likes of Derann, Ken, Red Fox, etc.. Feel free to correct me, if I am wrong in saying so.
Posted by Jason Gronn (Member # 3921) on March 21, 2014, 06:53 PM:
I would pay those prices for the trailers & shorts but a digest reel would have to be a really good title.
Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on March 21, 2014, 07:01 PM:
Welcome Back, Akshay!
There is a review of the Captain America digest in the reviews section: very popular topic, always near the top.
I saw it myself a couple of CineSeas back. It is a beautiful print and the sound was just as good.
Digest features are a respected art form among a lot of small gauge fans: it's not just a case of the movie itself, it's the skill that the editor shows (even the stinkers have a "so bad it's great" quality to them). It's also nostalgic among 8mm collectors that before the VCR showed up this was the only way regular people could own a film.
To me these really aren't for general audiences: you're going to be called on to explain why you spent ten times what the DVD cost and didn't get the whole movie.
-that's a tough sell!
Posted by Graham Sinden (Member # 431) on March 21, 2014, 07:20 PM:
One question I would like to ask "Are the new Polyester prints have a balance stripe or just the main stripe ?"
If there is the main stripe only I'd rather stick with the Acetate and its cheaper too (I think). Im not put off by the slight yellow tint either on the Acetate, but I dont like the idea of not having a balance stripe and you cant re record it in to stereo obviously.
Graham S
Posted by Ernie Zahn (Member # 274) on March 21, 2014, 11:36 PM:
I'm fine with those prices but just like others here, it really depends on the title.
If we are going to see titles of recent films as digests, I'd rather it be films that were shot on film ie Django, Dark Knight, Star Trek.
There were moments in the Captain America digest where I can see the shutter degree of the Alexa. Kind of took me out of the moment.
Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on March 22, 2014, 02:28 AM:
As said above, it will meanly depend on the tittles. I am not a digest fan neither, but I have to admit that some of them are (or should I say were) well edited (but in some cases, you loose too much of the story, it dépends probably also on the story itself and not only on the personn who edits, it may be difficult to "summarize" some films when it may be easy for others, how can you, for example, explain that a caracter appears or disappears without a too long unwanted scene that explains it). By the way, it is not easy to buy nex super 8 releases as they don't appear clearly on a web page with the possibility to pay with a credit card or with Paypal.
Posted by Vidar Olavesen (Member # 3354) on March 22, 2014, 03:05 AM:
I think I would pay 69 for a cartoon of old Disney's (not the digests from films, for sure) like Der Fuhrer's Face, which is a title I'd really love to own
Would it mean a 90 minute would be 3x279 or would it be cheaper, as I expecet it's less work doing a whole movie without editing???
Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on March 22, 2014, 08:37 AM:
I prefer digests over extracts, and I'm not a big trailer collector. I'd like to see more full length shorts or cartoons.
I don't believe there's a choice involved with polyester or acetate. The lab is no longer working with acetate stock.
I'll need to check with Steve, but I think that current polyester releases are mono. The ability to put mag stripe on poly is a recent development and the process for putting a thin balance track is still being worked out.
I would guess that a feature would cost less than 3x279, however not much less.
Doug
Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on March 22, 2014, 09:44 AM:
I think the thing for Steve O. to do is publicly offer a title and ask for commitments before he does the deed, maybe sweeten the pot with "first to buy get a discount".
If he could at least get to break even this way it would be worth it.
Posted by Lee Mannering (Member # 728) on March 22, 2014, 09:46 AM:
Yes they can only stripe Poly Mono Doug. A few of us have been looking at setting up main and balance striping in the UK particularly for amateur film makers who use Poly stock but its all up hill I have to say.
Posted by Brad Kimball (Member # 5) on March 22, 2014, 10:26 PM:
The prices are fine. In fact, very reasonable. I prefer digests over extracts. Isn't a balance stripe necessary to prevent the print from running "jittery" through a projector? My CHINONs don't run prints too well that don't have the balance stripe.
Posted by Lee Mannering (Member # 728) on March 23, 2014, 04:14 AM:
As far as I can remember Kodak issued its sound film with balance stripe from day one with no intention of recording on it and was designed to optimise helping keep the film flat in the projectors gate. Pretty quickly twin track projectors became available and the rest is pretty much history. You may well notice that single striped films do focus a little soft on one side of the projected picture as result. The last time I had contact with the lab they hoped to offer balance stripe as well on Poly stock and I’m guessing that the old stock they had of Acetate has now run out so all prints will be mono. The yellow tone to the old stock was not a pretty watch for me although extremely grateful to obtain some of the releases which otherwise we would not have had.
Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on March 23, 2014, 04:32 AM:
If I was well off as many people are in this hobby I would pay the prices, but-
I am an average earner and could never justify £170+ for 30 minutes of film as much as I would love to. £40+ for 10 minutes???
So being very honest the simple answer is no. not with the sound systems and picture projection of Blu-ray, (I know its not the same, and do very much love my cine films), I just couldn't justify to my family or friends when viewing a movie that runs for half hour that I just paid over £170 for it. Unless its guaranteed never to scratch or fade for life
Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on March 23, 2014, 10:03 AM:
I dunno, still not sure I'll be going to Wildwood
Posted by Rob Young. (Member # 131) on March 24, 2014, 02:02 PM:
I have to say, regrettably, I'm with Tom here.
These prices are just too much.
Going back even less than 10 years, super 8 extracts could still rival good video projection and with Derann producing "in-house", costs were kept within reason.
So you could just about justify showcasing 30 minutes of say, "The Matrix", at around 3 x the cost of the whole movie on DVD to your family & mates.
But now, HD formats have come so far both in their accessibility and cost that paying excessively for source material is, well, devotion at best.
There are many good points raised on this forum regarding concerns over "video" projection and I personally still accept most of those points.
There are still a lot of problems to address when it comes down to ye old "video vs. film" debate.
The point of discussion I'd like to take forward in another thread is that there are now probably more digital source / presentation options than there ever was regarding film; which doesn't by any means make it better, oh no, just more confusing.
But, gasp, digital presentation can actually now look like film when presented properly. There, I said it. But you still need mega bucks. I think most of the viewer issues on the forum regarding digital presentation are down to bad digital presentation!
And personally, I think these prices for film are mega bucks, which, just possibly may be best saved and spent wisely elsewhere...
PS. Lee's post regarding lack of sound balance stripe is significant. This was an issue years back with Walton films who produced great quality prints but penny-pinched by not applying balance stripe; result - soft focus down one side of the image, especially in 'scope. This was a cost saving exercise that reduced presentation quality. Ok, that was maybe acceptable at the time (circa 1970's - actually it wasn't and led to many complaints and a re-think by Walton!!!) but we can't seriously go back to that and pay premium money???
Or bulky, brittle acetate.
Film is beautiful, but I reckon it is time to move on and embrace and evolve the beauty of new opportunities.
Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on March 24, 2014, 03:56 PM:
& we did say some years ago, the death of dear Mr Simmons was the beginning of the end, now Derann are gone this has accelerated greatly, I will certainly look after what we have and I will still buy sensible priced second hand cine films but I simply cannot justify £175 for just 30 minutes worth of movie.
I did note the other day on radio 2 here, that 80% of cinemas budgets now goes on the sound system & Not the picture, and of course the modern home cinema also concentrates on sound, the films,(or should I say discs) are so cheap now you can pick up movies in boots sales for £1 or less, so sad but a sign of the times.
Posted by Rob Young. (Member # 131) on March 24, 2014, 04:19 PM:
Tom, not sure modern home theatre does really only concentrate on the sound (I know for a fact that isn't my case!!! Although, it is important and has far more potential now than ever).
I know what you mean though, and for a long time (1980's - 1990's) main stream, ie. big audio / visual names did only try to sell sound systems as "home cinema" and ignore the picture quality aspect.
Mostly because the video presentation options were, well, crap. Whilst all the time, there was good old super 8 offering superior vision...not that anyone would listen or care, especially the big boy manufacturers. Although, that made us film collectors elite in our own time!
Today, the options are varied and above all, potentially better.
Just to re-state. I'm an absolute die-hard film nut! "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"
But, maybe we can start another thread with regard to digital here.
My experience is that when people who are really passionate about things, say, old school technology meets new school technology, there is so often such a mutual respect and appreciation that only good things are derived.
We have to move on. Industry drives new stuff at us all the time, simply to make us buy things.
"This is better!!!", even though, as so many of us know, it ain't...but sell it right (ie. you're sooo out dated) and many will buy in...
But then market is driven by demand and sometimes, even, passion, and products do arrive to market that are actually the result of market forces and passion from the manufacturer...yes, shock, this does still happen.
Digital isn't the devil.
Good digital isn't cheap either, although you can buy digital cheap.
In the hey-day, super 8 could be good, although you certainly could buy cheap super 8 equipment and make it look rubbish, as seems to be the psyche of contemporary audiences.
There was a time when I went out of my way to make super 8 look and sound the best.
But, controversial kill-joy as I am, I'm going to say; these prices for film are too much given the audio / visual reward.
Posted by John Hourigan (Member # 111) on March 27, 2014, 10:06 AM:
Well said, Rob.
Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on March 27, 2014, 12:21 PM:
Since getting into digital projection in my home, my super 8 purchases have taken a change. I now find that I prefer to use super 8 to supplement a digital feature. So I look out for the short 200 or 400ft subjects the most, cartoons, newsreels, Pathe Pics and Look at Life's etc. These all work really great as supporting material for the main feature. So I will continue to pucrchase these on the used market, and if something really interesting came along, as a new print. I still get enormous enjoyment from all aspects of film projection and that will certainly continue for me.
HD Digital projection in the home is now so good that it is indistinguishable from digital projection in the professional cinema. Yes - home cinema can now be as good, or better, than the multiplex, really stunning PQ for the most part. And it does not cost megabucks to buy a really high performing digital projector - just the cost of a few super 8 features. But you must use digital projection on a big screen in a dark room just like you do super 8 - a large flat panel TV just does not cut it, at least for me.
I got into digital projection 10 years ago and I can honestly say that it has brought more enjoyment to me and my family than any other purchase I have made.
Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on March 27, 2014, 03:23 PM:
The topic seems to slide to a discussion super 8 versus digital, which I think was not the purpose. Nobody can say that super 8 is cheap and that digital has no advantages. But is that the point ? I said several times that I am not looking for perfection but for pleasure. Can I get perfection with digital ? Probably. Can I get the same pleasure I have with film ? As many of us, I am not a millionaire but I try to support the hobby. Discouraging new attempts to keep film alive by negative comments seems not a good idea.
Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on March 27, 2014, 04:26 PM:
I agree we've gotten somewhat off topic. I am not looking to replace one format with another. However, it is useful to know that longtime collectors Tom, Rob and John feel that any new releases are not worth the current prices.
Many early Castle releases had only a main stripe. I've never seen a difference in across the frame focus or smoothness of projection between films with or without a balance stripe, scope of flat. It could be that certain brands' pressure plates do a better job than others. Having said that, I would prefer stereo prints but if that's not an option with the current state of polyester science (Poli Sci majors take note!) that would not stop me from buying a film.
For me it still comes down to what the titles are.
Doug
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on March 27, 2014, 06:13 PM:
I think Tom speaks for most of us mere mortals regarding the prices of new prints, however despite my modest means, I for one, would always strive for prints that are "a must have" and if anyone can release complete 600ft classics as good as Mickey's Christmas Carol in both print quality and sheer
"collectabilty" ,then I for one, would always strive to afford such fantastic prints, but probably only EVER project them through a Bauer to ensure they last my lifetime unscathed!
Posted by Rob Young. (Member # 131) on March 28, 2014, 01:28 AM:
Sorry, yes, I see I am sliding off topic!
My point in bringing up digital was to level my argument that these prices are too high, in my opinion.
I think it's a shame and know that the price is the result of market forces and that new releases are as much a labour of love as anything else. I just don't think these prices justify the return.
But that's just my opinion, of course, and think it is great that many collectors are happy and willing to pay these prices.
I really didn't want to be negative with regard to new releases and such, maybe in retrospect, I'd have been better just to keep quiet.
Long live super 8!
Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on March 28, 2014, 06:05 AM:
The prices are steep for sure:
-you buy less, you appreciate more.
A lot of us already have libraries of several hundred prints to begin with, we don't really need a lot more anyway.
Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on March 28, 2014, 09:15 AM:
Rob,
Willing, yes. Happy is stretching it a bit.
Doug
Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on March 28, 2014, 09:55 AM:
When I found out you could still get new Super-8 prints a dozen years back I thought it was absolutely astounding.
That there are any available at all today is next to miraculous!
(I wonder if anybody still makes 8 track tapes?)
Posted by Dino Everette (Member # 1378) on March 28, 2014, 11:24 AM:
quote:
I wonder if anybody still makes 8 track tapes?)
No, but the kids in bands today have really taken to cassettes, and there are brand new cassette only labels putting out new music..
Posted by Jim Downey (Member # 3701) on July 21, 2014, 10:29 AM:
As the curator of Steve Osborne's website, I thought it would be of interest to all of you who lent their helpful comments to this thread to see the list of new Super 8 feature titles that have been chosen:
Steve Osborne's The Reel Image
Posted by Vidar Olavesen (Member # 3354) on July 21, 2014, 10:38 AM:
Sure, I saw E.T. and was interested. Wrote an email to Steve Osborne and as almost always, no reply
I wonder if it's me they hate or dislike? Same with CHC, almost never get replies
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on July 21, 2014, 11:52 AM:
I'd still love to see those first 30 or so minutes of "Saving Private Ryan" (the D-Day landing sequence!) as an extract!! I'd be one of the first with the "cash on the barrel-head"!
Posted by Lee Mannering (Member # 728) on July 21, 2014, 12:48 PM:
I'm with Steve, less is more.
As I've mentioned before for me personally I would rather use the time it takes for a brand new release to become available to save up and get a limited edition print for my collection. Capt America took nearly 12 months to reach me which was not a problem as it only worked out very few pounds a week with plenty of time to save in the change box and the excitement when it did finally arrive was priceless, unlike waltzing down to the supermarket for a disc which will be worth 50p in a couple of years.
I would rather have the Acetate stock due to Stereo stripe.
Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on July 21, 2014, 01:41 PM:
Vidar, I always got answer from CHC.
Posted by Vidar Olavesen (Member # 3354) on July 21, 2014, 03:04 PM:
I got the 16mm updated list the other day, saw Terminator 16mm and immediately ordered it. No response after that at all. I am so sure I won't get it, even though I sent the reply only seconds after recieving it. It must be me they hate then :-(
Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on July 21, 2014, 05:15 PM:
Vidar, i wouldn't take anything personal, it seems to happen to us all. It just seems that one or two dealers don't seem to bother about customer care and the likes. Sometimes, I have to admit, it feels as if it is they who are doing YOU the favour by selling you the film, not the other way around like traditional shopping.
Perhaps it is due simply to supply and demand, and lets face it, none of us have too many options these days as to where we shop.
[ July 21, 2014, 06:23 PM: Message edited by: Andrew Woodcock ]
Posted by Gary Crawford (Member # 67) on July 22, 2014, 07:09 AM:
Just remember one thing...Steve Osborne has a full time job and a family. He does the film business totally out of love for the hobby. He is a one person operation. Cut him some slack. He's getting new releases out. He's putting out a magazine...he's handling used films and sending out lists periodically...he's selling much needed projectors, accessories...bulbs..splicers..just about anything you need...and doing it out of his house in his spare time.
He is sometimes up at 2 and 3 in the morning working to get orders out, etc. Again...all in the time he's not handling his full time job and family and home duties.
Posted by Vidar Olavesen (Member # 3354) on July 22, 2014, 07:26 AM:
But still ... After a month, he should be able to reply, right? I appreciate the effort they're putting into the hobby, do not doubt that, but it's difficult when you don't get replies.
Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on July 22, 2014, 11:56 AM:
I agree about the excessive prices, but nothing can really be done about that. I wish I had wads of cash to blow even on films I wouldn't regularly collect, (just to support the hobby), but that's not a possibility.
However, if the title is right, the cash will flow, none-the-less!
I know for a fact that he literally takes nothing off the top when it comes to pricing. He certainly doesn't make any real profit, beyond the sheer pleasure of still having super 8 available for the collector.
One very big bonus today (beyond the incredibly sharp image on these prints), the days of the yellowish acetate are GONE! I was always irked at buying a brand new print and having a yellowish stock which, sadly, did effect the overall color spectrum.
Now ... with the KODAK Vision polyester stock, the colors are allowed to really shine forth! Anyone who has purchased the prints on polyester can vouch for that.
When we did our "Saturday Morning Madness" prints a few years back, I made test prints on both acetate and the then new polyester Kodak Vision film stock and hands down, the Kodak Vision film stock was noticeably better!
Incredible kudos to this man who has survived, long after even the great ones (such as Derann) have had to call it a day. He's still there for the hobby and the collector!!!
(and let us not forget those in UK who also partner with him as well on many of these releases!)
Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on July 23, 2014, 09:40 AM:
A&C MEET F would sell, there was a print out there with German sub-titles I think - Shorts is what I'm after and is my middle name, so it goes from that - If any "new' shorts are to be had, let them be from the MGM and RKO libraries - Shorty
Posted by Zechariah Sporre (Member # 2358) on July 24, 2014, 05:52 PM:
It is cool to see a list with what features are still available new. Does anybody know if Spider-Man on Reels Images' list is the 2002 version with Tobey Maguire
Posted by Pasquale DAlessio (Member # 2052) on July 24, 2014, 06:26 PM:
No still too expensive for me.
Posted by Jason Gronn (Member # 3921) on July 24, 2014, 07:02 PM:
I believe Spider Man is the 2002 version, if you look at the BFCC site it has a review on it and looks like a great print.
I'm thinking of purchasing this one soon myself.
Posted by Paul Hussain (Member # 4369) on July 24, 2014, 08:00 PM:
This is our passion and i think everyone here should do all they can to support it, We cant go backwards just collecting old titles here and there we got to look towards the future ...keep it alive .Iam more than happy to pay these prices even if its just for a few more new titles lets all keep super 8 going do what you can.
Posted by Zechariah Sporre (Member # 2358) on July 25, 2014, 09:46 AM:
Thanks Jason. It does look like a good review. To bad it isn't scope. They are rather expensive, I would like to buy one new feature sometime. I think if we try as much as possible to support new releases it will help continue super 8 into the future. I'm curious to see if the flood of 8mms on Ebay dries up somewhat in another 10 years or so.
Posted by Pasquale DAlessio (Member # 2052) on July 25, 2014, 10:51 AM:
Some of us can only do what we can afford. If I could buy any new releases I certainly would.
Posted by Zechariah Sporre (Member # 2358) on July 25, 2014, 01:38 PM:
You know it's bad when I'm looking to buy a film that costs more then either of my vehicles I currently own
Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on July 26, 2014, 04:47 AM:
As a price comparison, from the Derann Easter 2007 newsletter:-
Trailers £14 and 1 reel shorts £27.99, there were no 600ft prices on the list.
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