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Posted by Pasquale DAlessio (Member # 2052) on April 24, 2014, 07:48 PM:

How many digest versions were there of the film? I have a 1x400' that ends abruptly with The End after a battle sequence. Was there a 3x400' or 2x400' version?

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on April 24, 2014, 07:51 PM:

2 x 400'

Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on April 24, 2014, 08:14 PM:

What was interesting Pat back then was the order those 400ft extracts were released. The big one was the Original "Star Wars" years later "The Empire Strikes Back" soon after that one, Star Wars Pt2...then sadly as Super8 was on the way out in the late 1980s the last "Empire Strikes Back" Pt2.

Sadly over the years all my extracts have turned red [Frown]

but the boxes still look good [Cool]

Graham.

Posted by Pasquale DAlessio (Member # 2052) on April 24, 2014, 09:00 PM:

Thx for the info guys. I have the 1st part and I am bidding on what I think is the second part. The box art is different. That's what made me think it was 2x400'. The part I have has "The End" in a odd place. Not really a good edit if it was 1x400'. The color on mine is still good.

Are the numbers on the spline different. Mine is F-63. I would assume part 2 is F-64?

Posted by Jonathan Trevithick (Member # 3066) on April 24, 2014, 10:22 PM:

My Empire part 1 is faded but part 2 is on LPP and looks very good.

Posted by Gary Crawford (Member # 67) on April 25, 2014, 07:17 AM:

same with me. I have the two edited together on one 800 foot reel. Part one is brownish...part two still looks very good.

Posted by Jean-Marc Toussaint (Member # 270) on April 26, 2014, 05:07 AM:

Part one ends with the Millennium Falcon diving into the cave of the giant asteroid ("I hope you know what you're doing - Yeah, me too...")
Part two begins with the Executor leaving the asteroid field and Vader communicating with the Emperor. The box art is similar to the UFA design.
LPP prints of part one were struck in Dec. '82 so they are out there. They are a bit on the blueish side, though.
There's a 200ft version of part one (with sound on tape) but no additionnal sequences are included, as opposed to the 200ft reel released for Star Wars.

Posted by Tim Robinson-Ayer (Member # 2521) on April 26, 2014, 05:33 PM:

It is F65 according to the photo on this site (I don't have mine anymore sadly). web page

Posted by Pasquale DAlessio (Member # 2052) on April 26, 2014, 07:02 PM:

Thx Tim! Now I know exactly what I am looking for.

PatD

Posted by Rob Young. (Member # 131) on April 27, 2014, 12:55 AM:

Some versions of F63 end even more abruptly, losing the last couple of lines of dialogue and moving straight to The End before the Falcon enters the "cave".

Also, these copies don't have a fade out following Luke's attack from the Wampa, just a straight cut to the tracking shot of him lying in the snow.

You would guess this was due to trimming of the negative due to wear on later print runs?

The old rumour is that Ken planned a 3 x 400ft version, but became nervous given the 8mm market at the time, so only released a part 2 (F65); which might explain the slightly "rushed" feel to the editing of part 2, compared to the more comprehensive part 1.

As Jean-Marc points out, there is nothing extra in the 200ft version. Also, slightly unusual for UFA, but these versions are the same as the Ken.

Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on April 27, 2014, 01:44 AM:

A 130 meters (about 400 feet) digest of Stars Wars (1, not Empire Strikes Back) is sold on Ebay. So far, it has raised 32 bids and 72 euros. Not cheap... http://www.ebay.fr/itm/LA-GUERRE-DES-ETOILES-SUPER-8-BOBINES-130M-COULEUR-SONORE-P-1977-FOX-F48-/251507888807?pt=FR_JG_Photo_Camescopes_Cameras&hash=item3a8f09d2a7

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