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Posted by Koen Keevel (Member # 4109) on January 30, 2015, 02:17 PM:

Hi all,

Would it be wise to switch from my Bauer T600 to an Elmo GS1200 MO projector?
And are there thing to check before I switch?

Cheers

Koen

EDIT - Sorry posted double

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on January 30, 2015, 02:27 PM:

Personally I`d stay with a bauer 600, much quieter, less to go wrong, with the 1,1 lens not so far away from the GS and spares a plenty around, especially in Germany.

Good luck.

Best Mark.

PS the 600 Bauer is also a lot less fussy with various film stocks and won`t scratch like the GS 1200, they usually need work to sort that out, the 600 film path is still scratch free long after the cam has worn out.

Now on the GS you also have nylong cogs going etc etc on top of the electronic issues.

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on January 30, 2015, 04:10 PM:

Koen!

This is an entirely new idea in projector ownership!

I never switch, when I get a new one it just joins the herd!

Seriously, when the machines are as old as they are these days, having just one is asking to spend a lot of time watching TV while the one is under repair. It's like going on a long drive with no spare tire.

I think back in the days when brand new machines could cost a decent fraction of the price of a new car, "one" could be enough, but they were also new back then.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on January 30, 2015, 04:27 PM:

Kone.. don't do it! lol [Wink]

Just own both or better still...swap it for aT610. [Razz]

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on January 30, 2015, 06:49 PM:

As soon as I read the first post of this thread I just knew what Andrew's response would be! [Big Grin]

Seriously though I have never owned Bauer's, but Andrew's high opinion of them carries a lot of weight, and the GS1200's can sometimes be a bear if not really well maintained. I suspect the Bauer's are somewhat like my Eumig 938, just keeps running with next to zero maintainance and totally trouble free. I can' t say that about eithet one of my GS1200'S, much as I like them.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on January 30, 2015, 07:28 PM:

And that my friend is the only reason I do not own one by now.
I think they are a stunning machine the GS, but only while they reliably stay working and don't scratch film!

I am very happy these days with my choices and the three different machines I use regularly, these are the ones I would buy again if the right deal ever comes my way.

I must admit though, I am missing out somewhat on my optical prints these days, which I have a fair few of. I really could do with a fumeo just for these. Either that or a SH30.

By the way Paul, it isn't only my opinion, most of Germany would agree I suspect, though they, like me, are also partial to the Visacoustic's and the Beaulieu's

Posted by Alan Rik (Member # 73) on January 30, 2015, 07:40 PM:

The Bauer's are fantastic machines but the sound of the 600's have hum in them. Done away with the T610's.
The GS1200 is a beautiful machine and if you get a GOOD one then it will be brighter, Sharper (with the 1.0 lens), have optical capability, and 1200ft reel capacity.
If you can find a good one I would do it. Or better yet..get a T610 and have them BOTH live in Harmony together! [Smile]

Pedro on this forum went to a Super 8 shop and saw a new T610 and a new GS1200 projected side by side and he felt the GS1200 was a superior machine for large picture projection. The forum he posted on is somewhere floating on the internet as I read it in 2006 maybe?
Good luck!

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on January 30, 2015, 07:52 PM:

They are Rik, no doubt about that my friend. But the Bauer is, as said many many times, a much more "HOME" cinema friendly machine IMHO. In my case, as I use it in conjunction with the big reels, it works out even better than a GS aside from the fact it won't play optical sound films.

A friend of mine has a lovely GS machine and his films are all in great condition so I do know it's possible, but for me I really enjoy the Beaulieu nowadays for the extra brightness and the Bauer for quiet casual screenings and most of my recording needs.

Look at the end of the day, Phil of Classic has a T610 at £350 and a GS1200 at £900 right now. There is a reason why the GS is, in his opinion,worth £550 more! My nervousness with these machines in 2015 comes from the fact that for your £900 you are buying a non supported machine. That's a fair amount of cash even today where just as soon as a component fails, you are in between a rock and a hard place to try and find spares!

The 938 takes some beating for sound reproduction, that's for sure, but for me, it's just not quite bright or sharp enough using its standard fit lens.

Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on January 30, 2015, 11:14 PM:

I would try to own both machines for the reasons Steve gave.

Posted by Clay Smith (Member # 4122) on January 31, 2015, 01:09 AM:

I vote for the Bauer but yeah........can we have both? Something nice to have the optical sound and the 1200 reel.

Posted by Koen Keevel (Member # 4109) on January 31, 2015, 01:29 AM:

Thank you all for the wise answers!
the GS is for 600 euro sale. That's a lot of money. And having both for a short time is no problem but in the long time I don't have much space.
So If have to choose in the end.
But scratching my films is not an option......

I was more charmed by the idea of the sound system. thought it might be better. Then I think that I keep my eyes peeled for the 610.
Better audio is a thing what I'm looking for now.

Andrew did you say you use 1200 ft reels on the T610????
and are there any 8mm fils with optical sound?

Cheers

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on January 31, 2015, 02:26 AM:

Koen
€600 is quite a lot for a GS1200. Do not buy without seeing it running, many things can go wrong with these old projectors and could cost more to get them repaired.
Have a look to see if you can find a Fujicascope Sound SH30, this uses up to 1200ft spools, it also has optical sound in addition to magnetic.
There are quite a few films available with optical sound.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on January 31, 2015, 04:49 AM:

Koen, in answer to your earlier questions, yes there are many Super 8 optical sound prints around. Some really attractive titles from the 80,s era that were never released on magnetic sound.

As for 1200ft reels on a T610, I use a long play unit with my Bauer that accepts reel sizes up to 3000ft which gives you approximately up to 2.5 hour sessions of uninterrupted viewing.
This obviously betters the GS 1200 1 hour max running time, which is why as a combined duo, I rate this match made in heaven above a GS1200 for use in the home. As said though, no optical sound facility sadly.

Posted by Koen Keevel (Member # 4109) on January 31, 2015, 05:29 AM:

Is your Long play unit something like this :
YouTube long play

Cheers

Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on January 31, 2015, 06:16 AM:

There are different kind of Long Play Units. To my knowledge, there is only one model still being manufactured.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on January 31, 2015, 06:26 AM:

I couldn't view your link for some reason Koen, but as Dominique says, there are quite a few different variations. Mine was made by a British company called Spondon (long since gone). Mine is very slender and the base plate fits the Bauer perfectly, almost as if it was designed specifically for use with these machines.

Posted by Koen Keevel (Member # 4109) on January 31, 2015, 06:55 AM:

are there still some long play units made?

And did you get my PM Andrew?

cheers

Koen

Posted by Jose Artiles (Member # 471) on January 31, 2015, 08:24 AM:

Julio Castells still made long play units for súper 8 and 16mm in his labour house in Barcelona ,Spain.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on January 31, 2015, 08:47 AM:

Hello again Koen, yes I did thanks, I will reply right now.

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on January 31, 2015, 09:50 AM:

Koen
Here is a link to the description of one of my favourite projectors, the Fujicascope Sound SH30 which I mentioned above.
http://www.super8data.com/database/projectors_list/projectors_fuji/fujicascope_sh30.htm

Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on January 31, 2015, 09:58 AM:

Jose, Julio Castells makes also Long Play Unots for 9,5 projectors.

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on January 31, 2015, 10:45 AM:

The Spanish long-play unit was mentioned and illustrated some time ago.
http://8mmforum.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=1;t=004820

Posted by Ken Finch (Member # 2768) on February 01, 2015, 10:35 AM:

I have a Baur T610 and can vouch for its quetness compared with my Eumig and Bolex. It also ues the 15volt 150 watt lamp giving a brighter picture in my home cinema. I also have an Aga LS which appears to have an almost identical mechanism and is also a quiet runner but the film path through the magnetic heads are not so accessible for cleaning as the Baur. I would say "go for it " but don,t get rid of the other one if it works well. Ken Finch. [Smile]

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on February 01, 2015, 11:24 AM:

The Bauer drive mechanism is far more sophisticated than the Agfa Ken and DC not AC like the Agfa,but you are right about the film paths sharing some similarities.

Both are excellent, but remember, the Agfa Sonnector has one unique facility over almost any other machine in that it can rewind at full speed through the film path and the gate. A very useful feature for when you may want to watch just part of a reel. Notably, it does so without ever damaging a single frame of film! Quite remarkable really.

[ February 02, 2015, 06:52 PM: Message edited by: Andrew Woodcock ]

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on February 01, 2015, 12:34 PM:

The biggest problems with the GS1200s are simply that they are over engineered for the use you require it for. If (and only if) you were to go with an Elmo you would be just as well off with a good ST1200HD M&O, these are much easier to maintain, however, (and it has been said many times), if you go with Elmo's, & I own three HDs, ensure they have been very well maintained because if they haven't & the green guides are all worn you will end up with scratching.

Posted by Alan Rik (Member # 73) on February 01, 2015, 05:41 PM:

If you can find a good GS1200 that has not been beat to death (yes they exist...I have found a few!) then you will have one of the greatest projectors ever made. The extra light will work wonders for you if you decide to get into scope projection. You also have the option of changing to a 2 blade shutter and also upgrade to a 1.0 lens. One of the best lenses ever made for the Super 8 medium.
From the GS1200's I have owned, and I have owned many...I had 2 small gears go so the machine wouldn't rewind or go forward, then one where the microswitch failed so when the film came out the other end the green threading lever didn't pop up, one where the ESS switch went so I wasn't able to use the pulse sync, one where the circuit board had a broken trace so it was a Mono GS1200, one where the rewind board had a bad capacitor, and one where the motor board had a bad component. Now true..that is a lot but that is from many different machines. Once these problems were fixed the machine was trouble free for many years.
I had a Bauer T610...a few of them too. They all worked great except one of them..the one that looked so clean...needed a new Claw!
So you can get a Honda (Bauer...trouble free but not as bright and not as many options for upgrade) or you can get a Ferrari! (Elmo...fast..but you might need your mechanics down the road...maybe!)
What to look for in a GS1200? One that cosmetically looks very good, one that is very quiet when projecting and has a minimum of squeaks, preferably a version 2 or 3..they have a better film path and they rewind more powerfully. And make sure the seller checks ALL functions that they can. Probably won't be able to test the record unless the seller is one of us.. but everything else should be checked. I now only have 2 projectors. A Elmo GS1200 Xenon and a Beaulieu 708 HTI. I love them both! But I still wish I had the Bauer T610 for my home films. Its soooo quiet and for home use is one of the best projectors ever made for sure.
The Elmo ST1200 is also a very good machine and if you don't need all the bells and whistles that model is a workhorse. It just goes on and on...the ones I have owned almost never need work.
Just remember that if the sound of the machine is important to you, and I'm not talking about the reproduction of sound but the actual sound of the machine working, nothing will be as quiet as your Bauer.
Good luck!

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on February 01, 2015, 10:06 PM:

I have to agree with Alan that the conversion of the GS1200 to a 2-Blade shutter, combined with the use of the F1.0 Elmo lens, (plus the use of the Fuji ESC lamp) makes the projector a real screen scorcher! [Smile]

Posted by Koen Keevel (Member # 4109) on February 02, 2015, 11:33 AM:

Sorry haven't been able to reply earlier.
But have made up my mind. I didn't buy the GS1200. But found a T610 al fixed up and checked from Germany. (With return accepting option [Smile]

)

But I think I'm quite glad I did not buy the 1200. Not that I don't like the machine. (could not say, never seen or touched it), But I informed a repairing shop here in the NL and they received the a 1200 quite recently, and there was a lot wrong with it.
So I guess (I could be wrong) that is the same machine that I saw advertised is now at the doctor for some surgery.

The repairing shop told me that the GS1200 is indeed nice machine, but he explained that the scratching on the films could be of the loads of metal inside the machine. And when that it damaged it will damage the film.

I'm going to think about the long play systems. Seems like a nice thing for the future.

Many thanks for all your advice and help.

Cheers

Koen

Posted by Alexander Vandeputte (Member # 1803) on February 02, 2015, 12:54 PM:

It is not the 'loads of metal' inside the GS1200 that is scratching film. It is: worn plastic guides. And happily those things can be replaced or modified. I am afraid your repair shop man got that one wrong.
A properly maintained and (slightly) modified GS1200 will not scratch film.
But the only two machines that are always scratch free, unless film is threaded the wrong way or some adjustment is off, are the Fumeo 9119 and the Beaulieu 708.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on February 02, 2015, 04:03 PM:

And given my fairly large collection of highly valued optical prints, that is why I really would quite like to seek out a Fumeo in the future. I am very happy now with my modest range of "non scratch" magnetic sound equipment, but I really cannot say the same for running my treasured optical prints.
I trust Alexander's words implicitly given the range of decent machines and experience he has with them all, so for me, it's just a case of waiting long enough for one day, a decent machine to appear I think.

[ February 04, 2015, 01:49 AM: Message edited by: Andrew Woodcock ]

Posted by Trevor Adams (Member # 42) on February 02, 2015, 05:46 PM:

Had to make the same decision Koen!Went for a T610(bought from Germany refurbished).Turned out to be the right choice.....

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on February 02, 2015, 07:03 PM:

Is this a recent acquisition Trevor as I know you have also been a big fan of these machines in the past?

Posted by David Roberts (Member # 197) on February 03, 2015, 04:10 AM:

Bauer every time for me.i am constantly reminded when viewing my damaged prints with the 2 green scratches their entire length. this was caused by two st1200"s,both maintained well,i thought.
the bauer has never failed to lace a film,is so quiet,and I am happy with 800ft reels.
most of all though,its knowing your films will not end up with green scratches,so you can relax and enjoy them.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on February 03, 2015, 04:14 AM:

Quite a fan club gathering here nowadays for these!

David illustrates what I and others have been saying for years, very well indeed!

[ February 03, 2015, 07:52 AM: Message edited by: Andrew Woodcock ]

Posted by Koen Keevel (Member # 4109) on February 03, 2015, 03:00 PM:

well glad that I have made the right choice then [Smile]

now hoping he will pack it up soon so I can play with it.

anyone interested in my T600 when I got my t610?

cheers

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on February 03, 2015, 04:44 PM:

Sadly the Beaulieu 708. can be quite scratchey as well and they are very intolerant of slightly miss-slit film stock. They hate waltons for instance.

They can be very finicky as well, but also do have a few things that go. Spares are about but very pricey.

But with Bauers Germany is awash with the things and could keep us all going for decades.

Best Mark.

PS the bauers especially if not used much do need a lube sorting etc to to let the lower loop former pull right away clear of the lower loop. Its one of thier achilies heels so do check that.

Also only go for 2 sprocket versions preferably the last series like Andrew says 502, 510, 525 and 610 if you can.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on February 03, 2015, 08:25 PM:

The Beaulieu I now own did scratch films pretty much on every occasion when I first received it. It transpired there was a fault with the upper plastic guide setting. Since rectifying the fault, I can honestly say, it has never marked a single film since. It has an extremely precisely manufactured film path and is therefore less forgiving in terms of running noise through the gate if you feed it with anything other than perfectly made stock, but it runs any film I have without marking it in any way and that includes older acetate prints I have such as Fright, which was indeed a Walton feature.

Since the fault was first rectified I have ran it practically every day since and so far twelve months in, nothing but good things to report on it.Very very pleased with it indeed!

The Bauer is in a league of its own where almost any film will run through it nigh on perfectly. I have even thrown a totally red old test film at it which looked as though it had been sat outside in the sun for 20 years and was completely warped.
It still didn't miss a beat and threaded perfectly, just incredible machines so far as threading and the film path are concerned!

[ February 04, 2015, 02:02 AM: Message edited by: Andrew Woodcock ]

Posted by Alan Rik (Member # 73) on February 03, 2015, 09:25 PM:

I agree 100% with Andrew in regards to the Beaulieu. I think there are so many out there that have not been maintained that the general public have a bad impression of them. Mine was bought as new and it runs beautifully. Any film I throw at it it will happily purr and play. The same prints on the GS1200 cause some clacking and unevenness in sound. But the Beaulieu does not like bad splice jobs, warped film, etc. If it finds any of those it will angrily protest.
But I have run many prints on my machine and it has not scratched any of them. Fingers crossed but I have to say it is one of my favorite machines!

Posted by Koen Keevel (Member # 4109) on February 07, 2015, 02:16 AM:

quote:
PS the bauers especially if not used much do need a lube sorting etc to to let the lower loop former pull right away clear of the lower loop. Its one of thier achilies heels so do check that.

Also only go for 2 sprocket versions preferably the last series like Andrew says 502, 510, 525 and 610 if you can.

I'll keep an eye on these 2 items.

Saw a BEAULIEU 708 EL on ebay. Quite expense machine.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on February 07, 2015, 06:10 AM:

Worth it though Koen, for a well cared for example!

Posted by Koen Keevel (Member # 4109) on February 21, 2015, 09:57 AM:

Got my T610!!
It arrived 2 days ago. And now happy without any hummmmmm.

And also the recording function works really fine with the precise sync option knob!

Thanks for the advise!

Cheers

Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on February 21, 2015, 10:22 AM:

Glad you're happy. it's a good make indeed.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on February 21, 2015, 11:10 AM:

Where can I get one? [Wink]

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on February 21, 2015, 11:14 AM:

Germany, that's your best bet Tom.

[ February 21, 2015, 03:37 PM: Message edited by: Andrew Woodcock ]

Posted by Koen Keevel (Member # 4109) on February 21, 2015, 04:18 PM:

Mine came from "nico scholvien" called art-and-sound on ebay.

Cheers

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on February 21, 2015, 04:32 PM:

Yes he appears a well respected dealer koen.

Posted by Koen Keevel (Member # 4109) on February 22, 2015, 10:09 AM:

Ok, made a mess of it already. [Frown]

Was happy recording some audio on the film, and all worked great!
BUT
When I was a little enthusiastic turning the knob from backward to forward (rather quick) the motor did not respond anymore to the speed knob. It just went to high speed!
Not even to the 24/18 frames knob had any influence anymore. It just went to full speed!

So I tried to reprogram the computer board with a start and ending frame point to see if it would resolve the problem. The computer board switches on and off. (even the light and record knob goes off when the computers passed the end frame marking) but the motor still went full blast. It seems the control mechanism or control chip went crazy.

I noticed when I have programmed the computer and rewinded to the starting point, it went in high speed backwards until 103 before starting frame I programmed. When going forward again it would get it's normals speeds (in my case 24 frames)
After my doing it kept it's speed like it is going backwards. Even when I go forward.
And also the motor kept on running when passing this -103 frames point.

Does any one know this problem?

(sad)Cheers

Posted by Maurizio Di Cintio (Member # 144) on February 22, 2015, 01:22 PM:

I'm very sorry for this... The 610 is suuposed to run at high speed only when backwinding prior to executing a programmed recording, in order to reach the in-point as fast as possible.

If it's not an electronic fault, check the main selector's inner cam shaft: make sure each of them does what it's supposed to do while the clicks of the knob are snug, without play (which might lead to improper multiple contacts).

Also if you can't find the culprit, entrust the whole beast to a repairman: you could ruin the transformer, otherwise, possibly beyond repair.
I hope this helps.

Posted by Steven J Kirk (Member # 1135) on February 22, 2015, 01:39 PM:

I have a GS xenon and a GS halogen. They are great but I too am a bit intimidated as far as the complexity goes. The solution to the guides is to modify the first two pieces. I have the metal replacement guide from Wittner in the first position and the two rollers modification on the piece over the top sprocket, on both machines. This should solve any scratching concerns.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on February 22, 2015, 01:58 PM:

Koen
I am sorry to hear of your fault on the 610 so soon into your new ownership. The problem you have could be originating from a multitude of possibilities, so I couldn't even second guess without testing and viewing the machine first.

What I will say is I really do not recommend that you use the fast rewind function after programming at anything other than 18fps.
The reason I say this is it is known to exert additional stresses and strain upon the nylon cam and claw insert and does, if used regularly, cause premature wear to these parts.

These parts as you know, are already vulnerable enough without promoting further problems, so once you get your new machine back to fully functional, I suggest you use the microcomputer programming function only to a minimal if indeed at all.

I do lots of recording tasks on mine but never find a need to have to use the function. Yes it is handy, but it isn't essential.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on February 23, 2015, 03:21 AM:

Steven, the replacement metal shoe and rollers you speak of do indeed help these with scratch issue, but the scratching isn't exclusive to those areas only on the GS I believe.

I once watched the full series of Armchair Odeons and I can clearly remember seeing a section of the video discussing the work needed on a green guide either just before or just after the soundhead, again due to wear on the guide.

A chap called Dave Worrall I think solved his problem by fitting an extra roller actually within the green guide to support the film and keep the film away from the stationary worn green guide.
It was very well engineered from what I can recall and it involved him having to cut a slot out of the bottom of the green guide first.

Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on February 23, 2015, 04:15 AM:

It would be useful to know whether anyone still offers the GS modifications mentioned but perhaps anyone willing would have trouble finding the rollers. I have a well-used GS that Dave Locke modified around 1990 in relation to the top sprocket guides and below the gate, and I'm grateful he did as I've never had any problems with scratching.

In my experience with various Elmo models, the main problem with the part below the gate is the scratches it often causes if you run a film in reverse. I once mentioned this in another thread and people responded by saying "I never run films in reverse", but I can't be the only one who sometimes likes to quickly check focus and sound by running just the start of a film before a show.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on February 23, 2015, 04:53 AM:

Apologies everyone, it was indeed Dave Locke I was referring to not Worrall I as I incorrectly remembered. Thanks Adrian.

You have a good machine there Adrian judging by what work I saw he had to do on the video to make his particular projector non scratch.

I don't know anyone who trusts a GS1200 in reverse.
I have raised this issue previously as a "marker" for the quality of the machine you own.
On any of the Eumig 938, Bauer Studio Line machines or my Beaulieu, this is possible with no issues whatsoever.

This is an essential part of a projectors routine if you are to use it as a recording tool.
This possibility is therefore extremely limited on a GS1200 due to the fact they cannot be entirely trusted in reverse.

The same goes for the ST1200.

[ February 25, 2015, 04:18 AM: Message edited by: Andrew Woodcock ]

Posted by Koen Keevel (Member # 4109) on February 25, 2015, 03:30 AM:

Well when contacting someone closer about my T610 problem, he said that it looked like a electrical problem, so that some components had to be replaced. Which he did not know, so the machine is going to a doctor soon.

And thanks Andrew, I'll try to avoid the fast speed.
But how do you get get a good sharp cut in the audio somewhere in the middle of the film? That would be very hard without the computer.

Cheers

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on February 25, 2015, 03:53 AM:

I'm not quite sure what you mean Koen about the quick sharp cut?
If you are just recording a certain section and want to leave the audio on the preceding or next section unchanged just pull the superimpostion lever from 10 to zero at the appropriate frame and then no new audio will run over the next section. alternatively pause the source material at the appropriate frame.

I find the first method works really well for me and you cannot detect any drop off transition when done quickly.
My recordings are all made from a digital master using a computer.

[ February 25, 2015, 05:05 AM: Message edited by: Andrew Woodcock ]

Posted by Koen Keevel (Member # 4109) on February 26, 2015, 04:32 AM:

Well maybe I was not clear, but you had the right answer [Wink]

Was wondering how you would make a nice crossover (or a sharp cut) from the original audio to the new audio.

Cheers

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on February 26, 2015, 04:56 AM:

I'm glad this answered your query Koen [Smile]

Posted by Edwin van Eck (Member # 4690) on July 29, 2015, 02:39 AM:

For the Bauer T600 (and T500 and T520) we have just released a new spare part!

This part is newly designed with the aid of 3D printing technologies.
New improved design with respect to original button:
- Stronger axle attachment (less likely to break)
- Tighter attached to projector

Suitable for:
- Bauer T500
- Bauer T520
- Bauer T600

Weight: 15 grams
Dimensions: 48mm diameter, 40mm thick

See: http://shop.van-eck.net/PP-0042.html?_globalsearch=pp-0042

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on July 29, 2015, 03:15 PM:

Is there any demand for the 610 version of this part Edwin?
Any requests?

I haven't had one fail myself but wondered if they are vulnerable?

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