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Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on December 23, 2015, 12:42 PM:

I was just wondering if anyone can give me some info on these two releases.

All I know is that they made two 50ft standard 8mm releases from one film "Spooks" on standard 8mm silent and 3D. The copy that I lucked out in finding had one of the labels for the release and it was called "Tails of Terror" and it actually had an image of the Three Stooges with skeletons and such, but with Curly (and this was a Shemp short). The person I bought it from actually took the time to completely go through it and edit in order of the scenes from the film, and with cement splices, which took a lot of work, as some of the cuts are literally one shot long. Also, I noted that the two releases were on different forms of earlier Eastman stock and even though it has fade, the 3D effect still works remarkably well.

Any info on when these were released? I'm assuming it was a Columbia pictures super 8 release.

Posted by Brad Kimball (Member # 5) on December 23, 2015, 10:53 PM:

Hi Osi.. I'm probably stating the obvious, but "Spooks" was released as a silent 200 'er and it's unfortunate that it was never released in its entirety because it's actually one of the better 'Shemp' shorts. I would've been happy if Columbia had released it in 2-D as long as I had a full length 8mm version of it. It's on Ebay from time to time in 16mm, but it wouldn't be as nostalgic for me without a nice decorative box.

Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on December 24, 2015, 08:41 AM:

and uh, speaking of decorative boxes, I need a Pain In The Pullman, Dopey Dicks, Hold that Lion and Whoops I'm An Indian, film too of course

Posted by Mathew James (Member # 4581) on December 24, 2015, 09:38 AM:

I've never heard of tales of terror before, Osi. Sounds very rare.

Spooks was released in 1953 i believe. The only film i have with skeletons is 'Creeps', but that is with Shemp(similar to ghost talks).
There is a very short scene with a skeleton with curly in 'If body meets body'.
Cheers,
Matt

Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on December 24, 2015, 10:46 AM:

Osi,

Tails of Terror or Tails of Horror?

The earliest Columbia catalog I have is from 1966 and it lists both 50' 3D Stooges shorts and the 200' 3D Mad Magician. The above scan is from the 1971 catalog.

Doug

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on December 24, 2015, 11:29 AM:

Douglas to the rescue!!!!!

That's it, "Tales of Horror", and those are the little reels in question!

It's too bad that these weren't printed on Agfa or some other low fade stock, as the 3D effect would be even better, but I'm happy to have it.

But now you've brought up another question ... I see on the label to these boxes, that's "Super 8". I have never seen a super 8 copy of these!! I'd love to find a super 8 copy, as I have only seen the standard 8mm ones, so I'm betting that the super 8 copies are even rarer!

OSI

Posted by Gary Crawford (Member # 67) on December 24, 2015, 02:34 PM:

I have those two films in Standard 8. It was unfortunate that they were printed totally differently. I bought them new and Spooks was printed darkishly....Tails of Terror ( at least mine) had a lighter cast with better 3-d effects. I took each film...edited them back in the right order of scenes ..making the difference between the two look even greater. Still have that reel and the original glasses, but haven't watched them in probably 30 years or so.

Posted by Brian Hendel (Member # 61) on December 24, 2015, 05:21 PM:

Mine are the same as Doug's. 'Spooks' in Regular 8 and 'Tails' in Super 8. So not sure if 'Spooks' ever made it to Super 8... but probably... Merry Xmas!

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on December 25, 2015, 10:31 AM:

If the films are suffering from colour fade does it reduce the 3D effect?

Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on December 25, 2015, 01:12 PM:

I imagine that there would be more double imaging as the faded colours would pass more of the light making up the other image. Not less effect but much more difficult to watch. My copy of the 400ft Mad Magician is a bit like that in some scenes.

Posted by Brian Hendel (Member # 61) on December 25, 2015, 01:58 PM:

Yes, faded color leads to loss of 3D effects. That's why it's very hard to find a super 8 print from the 70's that still has good 3D. I actually have one of the old 200' Mad Magician silent prints from Columbia that was printed in the UK and the print has not faded so you still get things popping out from the screen. Every 400' version I have had of that title suffers from fade unfortunately. As for 3D I'm much happier with the Blu-rays than the Super 8's at this point. I wish they would put out Mad Magician and Andy Warhol's Frankenstein - those are the only other films that I really love and make it worth wearing those bulky glasses!

Posted by Brad Kimball (Member # 5) on December 26, 2015, 10:08 PM:

OMG..... I remember seeing "Andy Warhol's Frankenstein" in the theatre in something called Spacevision and it absolutely made me jump out of my seat. I had never been exposed to such gore and at 17 it was a hoot. Although the movie itself is just atrocious. Terrible script, terrible direction and anything with Joe Dellasandro and that Brooklyn accent of his you know is going to be just awful. It was a fun night out with friends though. "Andy Warhol's Dracula" is just as bad and it, too, was released in 3-D Spacevision.

Posted by Panayotis A. Carayannis (Member # 1220) on December 28, 2015, 02:37 AM:

Osi and Matthew, it is "Tails of Horror" !

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on December 28, 2015, 12:09 PM:

Alright, we get it already ... It is "Tales of Horror' [Big Grin]

(snicker)

Well, though the print have Eastman fade, (and the other point is correct, the two were printed quite differently), it's obviously reddish, but there is enough of the other color (green) to allow or some still pretty good 3D effects on it. There's a really good one where they spray water on a villain and it really jumps out of the screen.

I liked how, at the beginning of this specific film (the other one just has the Stooges pointing canes at the screen), this one has Larry walking much closer to the camera than the other two, which starts out the short in a grand way.

Posted by Dave Groves (Member # 4685) on January 01, 2016, 07:58 AM:

I bought 'It Came from Outer Space', the 400' digest and 200 pairs of glasses for showing at a kids music school. None (then) had ever seen 3D and when the rocks came flying out of the screen you can imagine the response. I also bought 'Murder in 3D', but sadly, both have faded so the effects are minimal. Regarding Spacevision, I saw it at a cinema in London in a film called 'The Bubble'in 1966 (later re-released as 'Fantastic Invasion of planet Earth' in 1977) It was the most impressive 3D I'd ever seen. Bob Furmanek has restored it and released it on Kino. Slow film but the effects are absolutely astounding, especially when the tray of drinks comes right out into your room. How I wish someone would release something in 3D on film.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on January 02, 2016, 01:40 PM:

Sadly, I have to say that the 400ft "Pardon My backfire" (the other 3D Stooge short, released by Derann), is really hit and miss when it comes to the 3D effects. Some shots will have very good depth, however, there is a good deal of "flanging" ( I just call it that, my name for when the separation between the red and blue is too extreme, that it destroys the 3D impact), to much of the film, which I'm betting wasn't Derann's fault, but was a fault in the preprint material.

I personally feel that the 3D effect is better on that edited "Spooks", then the "Pardon My backfire".

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