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Posted by Oscar Ross (Member # 5493) on July 25, 2016, 03:34 AM:

I really want to get a super8 camera and looking on ebay ive found this canon 518, it looks in good nick. The bit im confused about is which film to buy and where, ive looked on ebay and I have found this one.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kodak-V3-Super-8mm-Colour-Negative-Film-500T-7219-Official-Reseller-/252445839773?hash=item3ac6f1d19d:g:HUgAAOSwiLdV7wC8

Would this work with the camera for both light and dark shots? This could be stupid i know but thanks for reading.

Posted by Paul Suchy (Member # 80) on July 25, 2016, 06:25 AM:

Hi Oscar, The ebay listing is for negative film. Do you want to shoot and show the film on a projector, or do you want a negative for transferring?

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on July 25, 2016, 08:58 AM:

Oscar
Be careful what camera you buy as the Canon 518 was sold in two versions. One for Single 8 and one for Super 8.
These cameras could read the film speed notches on the cartridge. Make sure that the camera you are interested in will read the speed notches of what film you might buy.
It's a whole mine field for the unwary.

Posted by Oscar Ross (Member # 5493) on July 25, 2016, 11:54 AM:

Well probably more interested in scanning it to digital but projecting it would also be nice, is that the only difference?

and yeah i heard that but this listing said it was super 8 so all good hopefully

Posted by Paul Suchy (Member # 80) on July 26, 2016, 07:13 AM:

Unfortunately, I'm no expert on film stock. I know some stocks are better for outdoor shooting. If no one else chimes in on this, do a search on this forum and there will be a good amount of results for you to look over.

Posted by Tom Spielman (Member # 5352) on July 27, 2016, 08:30 PM:

I recently had to figure some of this out but I'm by no means an expert. Generally, the lower the number, the more light a film needs to provide good results. A "D" in the film type refers to film that's balanced for "Daylight" and "T" refers to Tungsten or indoor light.

So the ideal conditions for 50D film would be bright, outdoor light. The ideal conditions for 500T would be indoor light. That doesn't mean you can't use 500T outdoors. You can, but it requires the use of a filter. Virtually every Super 8 camera has a built in filter to allow you to use a "T" type film outdoors. How that filter is engaged varies. Many cameras will have a slider or a dial with a sun on one side and a light bulb on the other. If you're using a "T" type film, you want to make sure that slider is in the right position.

Color film will also be designated as "color negative" or "color reversal". After processing, color reversal film is film that can be projected. Color negative looks like a negative and is suited for scanning to digital. Kodak doesn't make any Super 8 color reversal film anymore. That's bad news for people that prefer traditional projection, however one upside to color negative film is that it has "more latitude", meaning it's more forgiving of being over or under exposed and that's important.

It's important because the other bad news is that many older cameras don't meter these newer film types correctly. You can compensate if your camera allows for manual settings. I'd run a search on "Canon 518" and "Vision 500T" to see what comes up. Anyway I believe 500T is fairly forgiving so even if your camera doesn't meter it quite correctly, it may turn out fine anyway. I'd check though.

Good Luck !

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