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Posted by Oliver F. R. Feld (Member # 1911) on June 03, 2017, 04:34 PM:

Several years ago I bought a brand new print at eBay which has never been screened and which is still in shrink wrap. The 3 reels cutdown of DAS BOOT (The Boat) from piccolo film Germany. Until today I cannot open the shrink wrap and screen it, because it is like kind of a holy grail for me.
Do You also own a brand new Super 8 title from the 80's which You can't screen? Would be interesting for me to know.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on June 03, 2017, 05:20 PM:

Personally, i see no point at all in having such items if they are never going to be enjoyed for the purpose they were created.
To have something still sealed that requires opening before it can be used, to me means you effectively still dont have this particular item if you are frightened of opening it and then using it.

Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on June 03, 2017, 06:35 PM:

I don't own any 1980s releases that I can't screen, but I do own one or two that I've still never got round to screening, believe it or not!

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on June 03, 2017, 08:45 PM:

Oliver if you are fancy with the seal (shrink wrap), open it and screen it.

Buy a shrink wrapper machine and re-seal it. [Wink]

For my serious side, I will screen it, unless I have 2 copies.

I have once opened the sealed mini feautuee Ice Zebra from Picollo, thinking I would get the beautifull colors compared to my MGM versions.

Eventually I found it had the same fade...so I was kind like a broken hearted man who had been falling in love to a girl and found out I was cheated tearfully... [Razz]

Cheers,

Posted by Oliver F. R. Feld (Member # 1911) on June 04, 2017, 12:24 AM:

I own 2 prints and the other one was screened and is brillant...
The new one was a bargain so I couldn't resist to buy it.
In the end there's no need to open it.
And it smells exactly like the new films from 40 years ago...

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on June 04, 2017, 03:22 AM:

Talking about Das Boot you have there, I would like to have it. So your brilliant color copy is on AGFA or just a good Kodak SP (which eventually will turn too)?

Cheers,

Posted by Oliver F. R. Feld (Member # 1911) on June 04, 2017, 04:45 AM:

All I can see is " S 2 "

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on June 04, 2017, 04:56 AM:

If it is 2S then it would be Agfa stock.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on June 04, 2017, 06:07 AM:

Here is my controversial view. Remember this is only MY opinion.
Brand new sealed in the shrink wrap means nothing at all to me.
I just cannot see the point of buying a film and not watching it. Thats the whole point of this hobby isn't it? to view the movies we purchase.While the value is going a bit scilly, all be it thanks to flea bay" they are not antiques are they?

Oliver, having bought your favourite film surely you must view it and enjoy it. It is 3 x 400 cut down so at present all you are doing it looking at the boxes. Surely you just as well view images from the movie online and not have the film?

I could understand this if you own a projector that is renowned for scratching films such as a crappy old Royal or a Heurtier Stereo 42, (mentioned on here), But if you own a good quality machine then you only live once my friend, we are a very long time dead so treat yourself up and view your favourite film on your home screen. I cannot see any point what so ever in just letting it sit there. Be proud of film and show it off. TONIGHT
[Wink]

Posted by Oliver F. R. Feld (Member # 1911) on June 04, 2017, 07:08 AM:

I think it will stay in the cupboard until the other print turns.
But thank You, guys

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on June 04, 2017, 04:32 PM:

No doubt,somebody else could have enjoyed and had the "benefit" of this "prized" print had it have been put at large!
Instead of it just gathering dust!!!

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on June 04, 2017, 06:26 PM:

The same topic but different object is also happening now.

People buy vinyls (because of the new trend...and felling cool?), let the vinyls still sealed and listen to the MP3 instead.

So the idea of buying vinyls is only to get the format...not to listen the music.

Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on June 04, 2017, 09:49 PM:

"No doubt,somebody else could have enjoyed and had the "benefit" of this "prized" print had it have been put at large!
Instead of it just gathering dust!!!"

Andrew - how is this different to you owning two copies of films? In fact Oliver's print is probably gathering less dust than your second copies, because it's still sealed! [Big Grin]

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on June 04, 2017, 10:49 PM:

Because mine are all screened. Simple as that.
I have no sealed prints.

Posted by Jason Smith (Member # 5055) on June 04, 2017, 11:51 PM:

Oliver,

If it`s one of your favorite print, I don`t see why you shouldn`t have two prints. I personally don`t have any unsealed films. A few years ago, I did own an unopened Super 8 film but I opened it up to watch it.

I would ignore the criticism you might receive for keeping a unopened copy. You already have a copy that is opened and being used. Perhaps if you ever do pass that unopened copy to another collector, they will be able to enjoy the film by watching it on a pristine print.

Posted by Oliver F. R. Feld (Member # 1911) on June 05, 2017, 12:17 AM:

Winbert,
did I write "I watch the Blu-Ray to go easy on celluloid"...?!
No...
I collect celluloid for 40 years now and it is my preferred medium.

To me this original sealed cutdown (which is my only one) is a treasure;
if not to others, it is okay.

Have a wonderful day, guys

[ June 05, 2017, 01:31 AM: Message edited by: Oliver F. R. Feld ]

Posted by Miles Shephard (Member # 5938) on June 07, 2017, 03:44 AM:

I bought a lot of features when eBay first began. I had a great job, lots of money, no children, and could therefore buy everything I'd always wanted to buy as a kid (and more) that of course I couldn't afford when I was little. Plus features weren't as expensive on eBay then as they are now.

Of the features I have, I have watched PINOCCHIO, SOUND OF MUSIC (Scope), REVENGE (Walton 4 reels), DALEKS INVASION EARTH (Walton 4 reels), VAMPIRE CIRCUS (Walton 4 reels) and PLEASE SIR (Walton 4 reels)
Plus METEOR (3-reel), CONFESSIONS OF A DRIVING INSTRUCTOR (2 reels) and WATERSHIP DOWN (600ft).

After those initial screenings I just never managed to get the time to put on a show. Getting married and having a child made free time harder to find. Plus I always edited Theatre openings, commercials, trailers and have a short and intermission in every screening. So it was very time consuming. I even printed out a souvenir booklet for each screening and had Home Cinema Membership cards printed. And I bought original quad posters for the films I was screening. I get exhausted thinking about it.

Thankfully I seem to have more free time now and have friends excited to see my movies on the big screen.

So my list of feature films yet to watch are (in no particular order):
QUATERMAS II (4 reels)
QUATERMASS & THE PIT (4 reels)
OHMSS (scope)
PIT & THE PENDULUM (Chris Lee - 4 reels)
TIME MACHINE
HANNIE CAULDER (scope)
CALLAN
CROSS OF IRON (German)
RAILWAY CHILDREN
SCROOGE
TALES OF BEATRIX POTTER
SUMMER HOLLIDAY (scope)
DEVIL RIDES OUT
OPERATION SNATCH (Terry-Thomas)
JUNIOR BONNER
CARRY ON AT YOUR CONVENIENCE
ZERO POPULATION GROWTH
CARRY ON UP THE JUNGLE
DARK STAR
CLASH BY NIGHT
FLYING DOWN TO RIO
CONDUCT UNBECOMING (Optical)
THE INCREDIBLE SARAH (Optical)
REMO WILLIAMS (Optical)

and

ABOMINABLE DR PHIBES (German - 2 reels)
WILD GEESE (3 reels)
IT'S A MAD MAD MAD MAD WORLD (scope - 2 reels)
ISLAND OF MUTATIONS (600ft reel)
THE GREAT ESCAPE (scope 2 reels)
BELSTONE FOX (600ft)
ESKIMO NELL (600ft)

So enough to keep me going for a long time (and I haven't even mentioned the 400ft digests, trailers, ads, openings and shorts).

I enjoy hearing what other people have in their collections - it's always interesting to discover prints you never thought existed.

Plus I always say I'm going to stop buying prints, but every now and again I see something that I feel I have to buy. Currently on the lookout for WARLORDS OF ATLANTIS.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on June 07, 2017, 11:54 AM:

Thats cool, I had never heard of the "Sarah" optical sound film!

(you hear new things everyday) [Smile]

Boy! "Das Boot" would be a hard film to do a 3X400ft digest of. If you ever get around to opening it, please give us a review of it, as I'd LOVE to hear it, as I am quite fond of
that film!

Posted by Oliver F. R. Feld (Member # 1911) on June 07, 2017, 01:57 PM:

Osi,
I promise...!
Thanks

Posted by Mark Mander (Member # 340) on June 07, 2017, 04:16 PM:

I have quite a few Disney 200 footers that are still sealed, I have them already opened and watched as well. I have a part 1 Derann Viva Las Vegas that's never been opened, Airplane 3x400 still sealed, Jungle Book and Snow White features still sealed, I'm sure I have a few others too, one day I'll play them I guess, Mark

Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on June 07, 2017, 06:20 PM:

Not sealed, but there are a few features in my collection that I have not watched in their entirety....The Godfather Part 2 in particular.

Doug

Posted by Joseph Randall (Member # 4906) on June 07, 2017, 08:28 PM:

Doug,

How could you not watch the whole GODFATHER PART II?
[Confused]

Posted by Jason Smith (Member # 5055) on June 07, 2017, 09:18 PM:

While I don`t have any sealed prints I do have quite a few used Super 8 features/cutdowns that I bought but still havent screened: Citizen Kane, Ugetsu Monogatari, Witchcraft through the Ages, Hunchback of Notre Dame(1939) 2x600ft, The Only Son,and Odd obbsession.

Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on June 07, 2017, 10:46 PM:

Joseph,

Having seen the film many times, I skipped a reel or two. However, I plead guilty to not skipping any reels of Twins of Evil.

Doug

Posted by Miles Shephard (Member # 5938) on June 07, 2017, 11:31 PM:

Wow Jason, you have Ugetsu Monogatari! Where did you get that and who was the distributor?

Posted by Jason Smith (Member # 5055) on June 10, 2017, 02:09 AM:

Miles,

It was released in the seventies on Super 8 in a joint venture between Daiei Film Studios and Lilli. Lilli was a Super 8 distrubitor in Japan that released a lot of cutdowns, features, and shorts on Super 8.

Daiei Studios teamed up with them and released some of their biggest hits on Super 8 uncut.. I really should watch the feature soon, I'll upload some pictures to the forum after I watch it.

If you're able to read Japanese, here's a flyer showing some of the other releases from that joint venture.

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on June 10, 2017, 09:10 AM:

Jason

For 14 years of my time joining with this forum I never read here abou Japanese own releases.

Yes we habe several posts regarding Jaws, Star Wars and all Ken's releases but not like you have there.

If you want to write something about Japanese own releases that will be wonderful and will become the first post ever.

Please note, although Japanese 8mm scene is known bigger both film collector as well as film shooter but I never met with Japanese member in any English film forum.

Cheers,

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