8mm Forum: Black Leader For Autoloading Wanted

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Posted by Chip Gelmini (Member # 44) on January 05, 2018, 01:07 PM:

I am looking for dark black super 8 silent leader. Does anyone have a source for this? I am looking to buy about 1,000 feet.

Posted by Bill Brandenstein (Member # 892) on January 05, 2018, 05:24 PM:

If Urbanski doesn't have this, you might consider buying a lot sale of expired negative or Kodachrome film off of eBay. Unprocessed color film is very opaque, but I can't remember which one has remjet on the backing which rubs off (bad). You want remjet IN the emulsion so it can't wear off. I think that's Kodachrome.

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on January 06, 2018, 05:43 AM:

Chip
Here's a link to Urbanski Film for their supplies of Super 8 leader.
http://urbanskifilm.com/supplies.html

Posted by Luigi Castellitto (Member # 3759) on January 06, 2018, 10:11 AM:

Chip, Wittner have it, only if in 33ft:
http://www.wittnercinetec.com/epages/WittnerCinetec-Super8-16mm-Film.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/WittnerCinetec-Super8-16mm-Film/Products/1043

Posted by Chip Gelmini (Member # 44) on January 06, 2018, 10:28 AM:

Thanks guys. I'm aware of those dealers. I'm trying to find it in bulk. Urbanski's 50 foot rolls at $9.50 seem like my only hope.

For those of you doing changeovers this helps alot. Splice 3 feet between the last projected picture frame and the tail of the print.

That allows you to do a very fast double exposure. One on black, the other on the new reel. Very quickly you start motor, strike lamp and switch sound, then reach over and shut the lamp of the ending reel. This sounds complicated because you only have seconds to do it - but really it is very simple and quite professional when you get the hang of it. Just make sure to use a print that has original lab cues in the proper place, and that your leaders are marked to put # 8 on a countdown or # 6 on a clock leader in the top loop. That is - the number # 6 or # 8 in the top loop. Upon 1st cue you start the motor and on second cue you switch everything over.

If you are in to using twin machines to run a show, you will really dig this procedure once you are comfortable with it. Master it - and it will change everything about how you run your shows.

CG

Posted by Bill Phelps (Member # 1431) on January 06, 2018, 03:08 PM:

Steve at the Reel Image sells 50' of black acetate (not plastic) leader for $4.50.....he could probably get you a large quantity.

Posted by Bill Brandenstein (Member # 892) on January 09, 2018, 11:11 AM:

Please let us know what you decide, Chip. And I'm quite partial to your technique.

Posted by Bill Phelps (Member # 1431) on January 10, 2018, 05:34 PM:

Actually I go thru a ton of leader and I could use a large quantity myself....Reel Image can sell 1000' black super 8 leader for $59.....that's a good deal! [Smile]

Posted by Bill Brandenstein (Member # 892) on January 11, 2018, 06:42 PM:

That IS a good deal. Question being: is it Neumade plastic junk, or actual film?

Posted by Bill Phelps (Member # 1431) on January 11, 2018, 07:14 PM:

Hi Bill...did you see my original mention of the leader a few posts above..... the leader Steve sells is acetate not plastic.

Posted by Burton Sundquist (Member # 5813) on January 12, 2018, 01:08 AM:

...So far I have purchased 400' of black leader from Steve Osborne and The Reel Image. I find It less striking and more aesthetical during transitions between reel/spool changes when used as the tail. I don't have a fancy projecting booth and I run a single projector. No complaints from my audiences so far...

Posted by Bill Brandenstein (Member # 892) on January 16, 2018, 05:56 PM:

Sorry Bill, didn't read carefully enough. Thanks for clarifying. Burton too!

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