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Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on December 28, 2018, 12:15 PM:

Paul ...

what is the "official" title or serial number for the Eumig 938 super 8 projector?

It may just be that this projector just comes up rarely, or I am typing it in in a way that I am missing ones that may be on sale.

thanks Paul [Smile]

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on December 28, 2018, 06:03 PM:

Osi the full model number is Eumig S938 Stereo. I don't think they were ever sold in the USA, I got mine from Canada on Ebay. If I ever put mine up for sale you will be the first to know.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on December 29, 2018, 10:48 AM:

I won't hold out hope on that Paul, they are keepers! [Smile]

Thank you for that info about them NOT being sold in the U.S. (no wonder they aren't showing up on ebay U.S.). Like you, I will hope for a Canada copy, as, the shipping would just KILL from the U.K.

Posted by Mathew James (Member # 4581) on December 29, 2018, 11:08 AM:

I'll keep a Canadian eye out for you too Osi!
btw- I wonder how this 'upgraded' model version is? Is it worth watching for as well or too high end?
Eumig S940 stereo multiprocessor
Eumig S940 Stereo

They both look fun with many bells and whistle to play with(and get in trouble with [Smile]

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on December 29, 2018, 12:09 PM:

Mathew, the 940 is the same as the 938 with the addition of a microprocessor to control all the recording and playback electronics. From what I have heard the microprocessor can fail, there are no replacements, and when it does fail the projector is essentially useless. Maybe someone can jump in and verify this statement.
They are both beautiful looking projectors.

Posted by Lee Mannering (Member # 728) on December 29, 2018, 02:09 PM:

True. Some years ago a friend fitted the last processor known to mankind after it died. Avoid the 940. Loved mine but with the processor worry let it go. Twas a massive job changing the processor and even he said never again.

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on December 29, 2018, 02:52 PM:

I believe that the S938 Stereo has a similar transit system as have the earlier Eumigs. (Rotating discs.)
It has a knob which turns to adjust its speed with no immediate position to indicate correct 24fps speed.

http://super8wiki.com/index.php/Eumig_S_938_Stereo_Projector

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on December 29, 2018, 03:00 PM:

That is true Maurice, but it is a totally different design from the 800 series drive. The 900 series drive has a precision drive for the radial positioning of the metal driving ball, and it is not angled into the rubber discs like on the 800 series. An altogether superior design capable of very precise speed regulation.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on December 31, 2018, 12:28 PM:

... and, of course, the 938 does not have that blasted "rear reel" set-up that my beloved but frustrating Eumig 926 stereo, has!

One of the biggest problems I have noted with that rear set-up is that the film can "bounce" a little and so, before the end of a 400ft or 600ft. you're back at the projector as it will lose the image and you have hit that lever to get it back again.

GRRR!

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on December 31, 2018, 03:52 PM:

Totally agree with you Osi. That coaxial reel arrangement on the 926GL is the downfall of an otherwise superb projector. Why Eumig ever went to that design is beyond me, but I suspect their brilliant design Engineers lost a battle with the pencil pushing marketeers who thought they had to have something different in the 900 series machines - even if it was no good! [Big Grin]

Anyway, think of the 938 as having all the great quality sound features of the 926GL but with 800ft reel capacity, increased brightness with a 150 watt lamp, and a traditional in-line film path with faultless auto threading. Eumig finally got the 900 series right with the 938 stereo.

Posted by Maurizio Di Cintio (Member # 144) on December 31, 2018, 05:49 PM:

Yes, Paul, I agree with you 95%, but the shutter cam on the 926 is made of steel whereas it's plastic on the 938 (and all other 93X model for that matter).

I really can't figure out the logics behing such decisions: they corrected the big coaxial reel downpit but chose to use less resilient material...

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on January 01, 2019, 11:02 PM:

Is there any history of problems with the plastic cam on the 938/940, or reason to believe that it will fail before the metal cam on the 926?

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on January 02, 2019, 05:01 AM:

There is only one thing that I like about the S926GL Stereo Sound and that is its two-tone colour scheme.
https://www.van-eck.net/img/itable/images/film_57_S926%20GL_1486473225037.jpg

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on January 02, 2019, 09:12 AM:

Well Maurice you can have that look on the 938 as well! Here is my 938 with a 926 cover on it:

I actually prefer the 926 cover. It seems much more sturdy than the thin 938 cover, and the embossed Eumig decal and two-tone finish is very attractive,

Posted by Maurizio Di Cintio (Member # 144) on January 02, 2019, 02:32 PM:

Well Paul, regarding your question, the answer is no, not that I am aware of; but of course steel is sturdier than plastic. My own 926 has had sound heads replaced along with minor details, but the shutter cam and the claw arm pin are still perfect; mind you I have used (abused?) this machine severely...

Anyway I like your S938's cover. I'll do the same with one of my 938 and 940. I would like to have the original designation removed and replaed with the proper one. Who could do that in your opinion?

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