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Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on October 17, 2019, 01:05 AM:

I'm finally back to transferring my family home videos. It's only been 9 years that I have been working on this project. [Big Grin]

Oh how time flies! There was a lot to learn and I made many detours along the way. I've tried just about every DIY technique out there, but eventually narrowed it down to the frame by frame capture with a Moviestuff Workprinter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc2615MSLaI&t=1s

I eventually realized that even after capturing the frames that the real work had just begun. To enjoy these old films again would take some careful restoration. Some films needed more than others...but they all needed some tweeking. All I can say is that I have learned basically from a lot of reading and trial and error (lots of error.)

I'm making steady progress now and pretty much have my workflow working and producing a quality with which I'm satisfied. Here is a short example of film shot in 1972. Some footage I like to edit and add music. Most of the transfers I don't add music...but I do add a projector sound. For me...it just adds to the feeling of watching a film.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMUU_X1L2BY

Yes that's yours truly creek rafting. I wish I still had all that hair.

When I get a little further into completing all the reels I'll try to write up in detail the post capture process I've used. However, basically I use VirtualDub2 filters to rotate, set the fps, crop and stabilize. I use Adobe Premiere Pro to do any color and exposure correction, and the Neat Video filter to reduce grain and sharpen.

Posted by Phil Murat (Member # 5148) on October 17, 2019, 02:15 AM:

Hello Janice,

Great, excellent job and results , Congratulations !!!

[Smile]

Posted by Joe Taffis (Member # 4) on October 17, 2019, 10:54 AM:

Nice work Janice, and just the right amount of projector sound was a nice touch. I got a laugh from that toothbrush scene [Big Grin]

Posted by Mike Spice (Member # 5957) on October 17, 2019, 10:57 AM:

VirtualDub is an amazing tool.
I swear by it.

Lovely results to your hard work

Posted by Evan Samaras (Member # 5070) on October 17, 2019, 11:47 AM:

Amazing work Janice!! Love your setup. I also appreciate the way you incorporated the running projector in the audio portion. It really brings it to life.

Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on October 18, 2019, 02:30 AM:

Thanks guys for taking the time to read...view...and comment. It means a lot to me that some of my accomplishments are recognized by the people in this forum for which I have so much respect.

Film transferring is what got me into film and projectors. As much as the end result is digital not film the transfer process is the only way to preserve what was originally on film. I still project my home movie films...but transferring to digital makes viewing these precious moments in time much more broadly accessible.

Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on October 18, 2019, 08:59 AM:

Janice,

You did a wonderful job and this is very enjoyable to watch.

Doug

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on October 18, 2019, 01:55 PM:

Janice apart from the telecine you did, I am commenting to the film itself who ever did that shoot, he/she had a professional shooting technic. I did not find that commonly seen on home movies, i.e shaky camera, quick scene changes, very quick zoom in/out, left/right movement too fast, un-necessary objects etc.

Was he/she a professional shooter?

Cheers,

Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on October 18, 2019, 05:56 PM:

LOL and thanks Winbert, but it's all in the magic of editing [Smile]

This film although not terribly shaky.... I did run stablization on it...all the cuts were also done on the editing time line to keep it moving along. Both my mom and step dad took the footage. My mom liked to take film of squirrels and birds...so of course those shots made the cutting-room floor. I didn't mess with the panning shots...they were actually pretty good.

Posted by Mathew James (Member # 4581) on October 18, 2019, 06:54 PM:

Great work Janice. Love the movie and sound of the projector and music selection...all so soothing!
Entertaining!! I like the spit/backwash scene at the very end too [Smile]

Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on October 21, 2019, 12:57 PM:

Hi Matt and thank you. I'm really loving editing these transfers. Brings back so many good memories of fun times.

Here is another one I just completed. It's from 1964. My Oregon cousins came to visit us in San Francisco. It features me, my brother, 2 cousins, my step dad and my baby twin sisters at Ocean Beach. My mom must have shot the footage [Smile]

This was shot on standard 8mm film and the colors are as bright as the day it was filmed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKb93HAG5dE

[ October 21, 2019, 01:58 PM: Message edited by: Janice Glesser ]

Posted by Mathew James (Member # 4581) on October 24, 2019, 07:27 PM:

These are great Janice. Keep them coming... [Smile]

That is neat to have twin sisters!... Are your cousins also twins? They look identical!(one in white, one in red).
Nice music score choice..."to the sea, to the sea, to the beautiful sea...

Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on October 26, 2019, 01:32 PM:

Yes having twins in the family is fun and unique. The cousins in the beach movie are not twins...but my aunt dressed them alike for years when they were young. They still are very close and live right across the street from each other. However...twins do run in our family and I have another set of identical twin cousins [Smile]

Ok Matt...one more. Here is "The Great Muk-luk Battle of 1965." Me and the twins pounce on our brother. He never had a chance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-AkgoAwUXs

[ October 26, 2019, 08:09 PM: Message edited by: Janice Glesser ]

Posted by Bill Phelps (Member # 1431) on October 26, 2019, 02:58 PM:

That's a classic! The sound effects are perfect! [Big Grin]

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