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Posted by Jan Adolfsson (Member # 3325) on February 02, 2013, 04:37 PM:

Hi everyone,
Today I screened my latest Super 8 purchase Amityville Horror Selected Scenes and to my suprise ( and horror ) I discovered that some clown apparantly has added a custom soundtrack on top of the originial sound!?! Is this possible?

Question number one, is it possible to remove this custom sound without deleting the original sound?

Question number two, does anyone like to trade this copy for something else ( the quality and color of the print is great ).

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on February 02, 2013, 06:31 PM:

That is called "sound on sound" recording. Some projectors have this feature by turning a knob to balance the original vs the new sound.

You cannot remove the added sound other than re-record with new sound.

Posted by Jim Schrader (Member # 9) on February 03, 2013, 08:43 AM:

is it possible that it was recorded on the balance track and the original is still there on the main track?

Posted by Lee Mannering (Member # 728) on February 03, 2013, 10:39 AM:

Always interested in customising sound tracks.
Last year I started re-processing vintage mono tracks into stereo. More recently I did a stereo rework of Karloff in Black Room and loaned the print out to a number of films collectors for feedback. It’s another fun way to expand our hobby if done well and the stereo can be awesome.

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on February 03, 2013, 03:40 PM:

Jim that can happen if Jan was using a stereo projector or twin track projector. But he used a mono projector that might not be possible.

Posted by Jan Adolfsson (Member # 3325) on February 04, 2013, 02:24 AM:

It's a stereo projector, an Eumig s 926 GL, what is the balance track?

Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on February 04, 2013, 03:03 AM:

quote:
what is the balance track?

Originally it was just used to keep the film level on the reel, hence the name 'balance track'. This was on the sprocket side. Most films releases had this track, although Walton Films in the UK at one time didn't put one on. This caused collectors to complain. It soon reappeared.

If you look at the third film down you can just see both the main & balance track.

It was of course not originally used for sound, but the enterprising manufactures used it for twin track sound & stereo.

Posted by Maurizio Di Cintio (Member # 144) on February 04, 2013, 08:03 AM:

If the "customized" version is recorded on the main track (1) using the "sound on sound" feature ("trick" on the Eumig S926), you can only do two things:
1 - find another print
2 - do a new sound transfer on this print, even if this entails re-editing of the original sound source (typically a DVD), being a digest. YYou have to use an NLE. A little time-consuming process but certainly doable.

Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on February 04, 2013, 09:23 AM:

Jan, if you're using a stereo projector, it should be easy to check the film with the sound controls set to only picking up main stripe sound.

Anyone 'customising' existing sound with superimposed sound was obviously taking a chance as if they made a mistake, there was little they could do to fix it. The only serious attempt at this I have heard is a foreign Godzilla 400' to which someone added some English narration.

Posted by Jan Adolfsson (Member # 3325) on February 05, 2013, 04:17 AM:

Thanks everyone!
I will check this as soon as I get the time.

Posted by Jan Adolfsson (Member # 3325) on February 19, 2013, 05:53 AM:

Hi again,

I was happy to discover the customized track was only recorded on one track and this discovery resulted in a much appreciated screening last friday night.
/jan.

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