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Posted by Phillip R Campey (Member # 3942) on March 21, 2016, 05:42 AM:

I have a really nice complete print of fantasia, includes the rare Right of Spring section and the Pastoral symphony section, it is on 4 reels. It has Italian sound.

£260 + PP

Bambi Derann slight fade but a really nice print

£99 + PP SOLD

[ March 27, 2016, 07:35 AM: Message edited by: Phillip R Campey ]

Posted by Miguel Gimenez (Member # 1952) on April 02, 2016, 12:56 PM:

Phillip, the Pastoral part do show the Sunflower character (the little 'black' centaur)?

Thanks

Posted by Phillip R Campey (Member # 3942) on April 03, 2016, 07:28 AM:

Hi Miguel, im afraid it has not, I have also decided to keep it as it really is a nice print.
Sorry

Posted by Miguel Gimenez (Member # 1952) on April 03, 2016, 01:56 PM:

What a pity, because I was really interested in this copy. If you change your opinion and decide to sell it, please tell me.

In the meanwhile enjoy it and be careful !

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on April 04, 2016, 11:07 AM:

It's fairly rare Miguel, and only found in Italy. I have a print of that. It has some fade, but not too bad, but it really is cool to see that original footage, to be sure ...

But beware that this specific print is the shortened RKO print that was re-released a year after Fantasia's original run of two hours, shortened down to about 1 hour and 15 or 20 minutes, (yeah) What is amazing about it, is that this was a print that was evidently "chopped up" and someone painstakingly spliced it all back together. It really is rare and will never be reprinted again, to be sure.

Posted by Miguel Gimenez (Member # 1952) on April 07, 2016, 04:23 PM:

Yes I am aware that the original was longer and had a, in my opinion, unnecssary and bothering, critic talking between scenes. Happily Disney removed this critic a year later.

Osi, do I understand correctly, and this italian copy has the missing black centaur? Do your copy show it?

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on April 08, 2016, 11:36 AM:

Yes Miguel, it has the "black Centurette" in that version. Actually, this edit of the feature (from, as you correctly stated, one year later), was actually RKO's edit and it wasn't something that Walt Disney was very happy with, it was one of the things that led Disney to starting his own "Buena Vista" label, as he HATED the idea that someone else would dare to edit down his films. I don't blame him.

The funny thing about this missing footage is you really don't realize that it's missing from the modern printings of this feature, but it does explain how the carpet "mysteriously" rolls itself out when Bachaues approaches his throne. In this original footage, that black centaurette rolls it out and then, when Bachaues is starting to fall off his throne, she props him up.

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