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Posted by Stewart McSporran (Member # 128) on December 14, 2006, 04:26 PM:

I've just recieved a film that I purchased off e-bay. Good price but it came on two cores, not reels. I've checked the listing and it doesn't actually specify either option. So caveat emptor.

What do I need to do to get this onto reels? I currently don't even have 16mm rewinds? If I did, how does one mount the core?

I guess going into the overpriced Glasgow based film specialists, paying over the odds for two reels then asking them nicely if they could spool the core for me is the only realistic option.

Posted by Dan Lail (Member # 18) on December 14, 2006, 04:53 PM:

Stewart, you need a split reel. A split reel can be separated and the cored film placed between them. Then you can rewind the film to a standard reel on your rojector or rewinds. Before I bought a few split reels I carefully rewound it on my projector by putting a dowell(improvise) through the core and holding it under the rewinding reel and keeping a little tension on the cored film with my fingers. [Smile]

Posted by Stewart McSporran (Member # 128) on December 14, 2006, 05:01 PM:

Dan, thanks. I did picture trying such a move, but I also pictured 2,000 feet of film all over the floor!

I'll try and track down some split reels.

Posted by Tony Milman (Member # 7) on December 14, 2006, 05:06 PM:

Stewart.

What I did was to get some stiff card and cut two circles. Ye syou guessed it, I then placed them either side of the core and held them together by passing a piece of wire between them. This also served as a means to support the whole. I then wound them on to another spool.

Tricky and not without the odd problem but it does work

Posted by Stewart McSporran (Member # 128) on December 14, 2006, 05:31 PM:

Tony,

I like your idea - especially since I've just been searching and found out the cost of 2000 foot split reels.

Stewart

Posted by Steven Sigel (Member # 21) on December 14, 2006, 05:31 PM:

Stewart --
I have some split reels in various sizes for sale. The main problem of course is the shipping cost to the UK from the US. However, if you are interested, email me at steven (at) 16mm-films (dot) net

Posted by Stewart McSporran (Member # 128) on December 15, 2006, 08:56 AM:

I went to the local store and the chap there kindly spooled them for me.

He only managed to snap the film once in the process when the split reel broken open on the rewinder...

Posted by Thomas Stathes (Member # 235) on December 16, 2006, 01:41 PM:

I receive films on cores and also sell films on cores- but without any split reels. What I do is since I deal with shorts, I merely thread the film through the projector and hold the core against the feed arm as it projects. Then I rewind it onto an empty reel.
If I want to sell a film on a core to conserve reels, I'll project it to take pictures. Put the take-up reels on a rewind and manually rewind it onto a core. A bit time consuming, but pretty much foolproof if you have nimble hands.

Posted by Steven Sigel (Member # 21) on December 16, 2006, 03:03 PM:

I never sell films on cores -- unless the buyer explictly asks me, or if it's a junk print I'm basically giving away. I certainly would never ship a film that someone was paying real money for on a core.

Tom -- what you are doing is very dangerous. With 400 ft shorts you might get away with it - but you're still running the risk of having film fall all over the floor.

(BTW - I have a 1200ft split reel available for $25 if you want one).

Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on December 17, 2006, 06:01 AM:

"I went to the local store and the chap there kindly spooled them for me."

Stewart - I wondered what sort of "local store" provides a service like that!

Posted by Stewart McSporran (Member # 128) on December 17, 2006, 12:01 PM:

It's a place called 20th Century Movies in Glasgow. They've been there since the year dot.

You get good service, but, to be honest, the place is in the dark ages. I know you pay more in a shop than online, but I recently paid £11.50 for a 600' 8mm reel. They have old 8mm package movies at £45 that you can pick up on e-bay for under £10.

It's a difficult choice. I'd miss them if they were gone, but I simply can't afford to get everything I need at their prices.

Posted by Thomas Stathes (Member # 235) on December 19, 2006, 02:11 PM:

Steven,
I can imagine the dangers of doing so with larger prints...but honestly, 99% of what I deal with is 25' to 300' in length and I rarely ever have a problem doing this manually. I'm careful, of course. As you suggest, I tend to put the more valuable prints on [plastic] reels. Rarely sell a print on a metal reel-- call me shrewd!
Tom

Posted by Alex Fox (Member # 94) on December 26, 2006, 01:55 PM:

Hi.Stewart I bought my first sound 9.5 Pathescope Son projector from 20th CENTUARy MOvIES way back in 1959, are they still at Queen Margaret Drive. Alex

Posted by Stewart McSporran (Member # 128) on December 26, 2006, 04:59 PM:

Hi Alex,

Yes, they are.

I bought my first package movie there back around 1980.

I've also just bought up their remaining 16mm library (50+ titles). I'll be listing them soon.

Stewart

Posted by Alex Fox (Member # 94) on December 27, 2006, 01:14 PM:

Hi! Stewart Thank you for the info.,nice to see that 20th Century Movies have been able to stay in business for so long.May I take this opportunity to wish you and yours a HAPPY NEW YEAR Alex

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