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Posted by Leon Thomas Jones (Member # 2731) on February 04, 2012, 09:28 AM:
 
Hello all,
I was asked by a collector to pass this information. He has got over 500 -16mm Features films, many lenses and brand new parts for all different 16mm projectors for sale in England .If you have any question or just want his list. Email him on
16mmfilmbazaar@gmail.com
I have bought few 16mm films from him they were fine, especially the prices. I just thought to pass the message; it might be useful to our forum members.Be patient with his replay as he is not very good with computer .
Regards
Leon
 

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Posted by Mike Williamson (Member # 796) on March 08, 2012, 11:54 PM:
 
Has anyone successfully communicated with this seller? He sent me one email, saying he was out of town until the end of Feb, and hasn't responded to any emails since.
 

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Posted by Leon Thomas Jones (Member # 2731) on March 09, 2012, 03:07 AM:
 
hi Mike,
I have phoned him few days ago with my order .I know he has received many e.mails asking him to answer many questions .It will take him time to do that. However, I have ordered 18 films+one elf projector which I have to collect in person.He is going to let me know the date soon he said If you e.mail him again and ask him to provide you with his telephone number ,so you can talk to him in person with your order.But be patient,he is extremely busy with local and international orders.Good Luck
 

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Posted by Mike Williamson (Member # 796) on April 10, 2012, 10:42 PM:
 
Hi Leon. Did you get your films?

I am still waiting to hear info on the prints I inquired about.
 

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Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on April 11, 2012, 09:55 AM:
 
I received a reply from him recently but it took quite a while in view of the enormous number of films he's selling.

Leon - I wondered where he's located as I might possibly be able to pick up my order?
 

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Posted by Wayne Tuell (Member # 1689) on April 11, 2012, 11:32 AM:
 
Was there a print of The Goonies in his list?
 

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Posted by Leon Thomas Jones (Member # 2731) on April 11, 2012, 01:03 PM:
 
Hello ,
He lives in Leiceter city .I had few parcel of films from him so far ,but he is very busy with checking and packing.I am happy with the films ,some in top condition 9as good as new) and some watchable.However,he has told me about the colour and stock of the films ,so no surprises there.I think his prices are very reasonable £40 for each feature film.Just be Patient with him .He is old man.Good luck
Regards
Leon
 

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Posted by Mike Williamson (Member # 796) on April 11, 2012, 08:23 PM:
 
I didn't see GOONIES on the list, Wayne.

Thanks for the update, Leon.
 

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Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on April 12, 2012, 08:10 PM:
 
He told me that the price is £40 each if I have 5 or more features - he prices them individually if you have less. I noted there was an 'Alien' on the list. If that was THE 'Alien', someone getting it for £40 had quite a bargain even if it wasn't scope!
 

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Posted by Wayne Tuell (Member # 1689) on April 12, 2012, 08:34 PM:
 
Thanks Mike. I was in the process of buying a print of the GOONIES from David E. when he passed away. I never wanted to bother anyone trying to finish the deal. When this library of films came up for sale, I was sort of hoping it was David's films for sale.
 

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Posted by Robert Tucker (Member # 386) on April 24, 2012, 03:44 PM:
 
Wondered if anyone bought any of these films on offer and if so are you happy with your purchase.

It sounds like some people have got some bargains which is quiet rare these days.
 

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Posted by Mike Williamson (Member # 796) on April 24, 2012, 03:48 PM:
 
I had an email with him today and he is now saying he can't check prints for color or condition and wished me "good luck".

After waiting 3 months to buy from him, it seems he's trying to back out of selling to me.

I have emailed him a response and I hope we can resolve this because, after 3 months of emailing back and forth and him holding these titles for me, if he sells them elsewhere I will be furious.
 

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Posted by Leon Thomas Jones (Member # 2731) on April 24, 2012, 05:44 PM:
 
Hello Robert,
Have a look at his e.bay feedback . I have bought 29 feature films and two elf projectors from him without any problem . Although, I have only watched few of them .The quality and the price tags of £40 each I think I had a very good deal. He has been selling on e.bay for years; with positive feedback of over 2000 must be impressive. Some of the titles I have bought should sell good on e.bay, sort of paying for other titles which I am going to keep. Now I am waiting for his Trailers and Cartoon list.

 

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Posted by Mike Williamson (Member # 796) on April 24, 2012, 06:42 PM:
 
Leon, since you started this topic, essentially advertising for Mussa, I'd like your opinion on my experiences.

I am, truthfully, flabbergasted you have bought almost 30 prints from him, but according to Mussa today, my order of 10 titles is just too much for him to handle. I have been emailing him since Feb 7 and have not been able to get a single print from him.

What is going on here?
 

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Posted by Robert Tucker (Member # 386) on April 24, 2012, 09:22 PM:
 
Hi Leon,

Whats his ebay name as i would like to see what he has sold so far.

Thanks.
 

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Posted by Marc Spardello (Member # 3019) on April 24, 2012, 09:59 PM:
 
espungabera
 

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Posted by Leon Thomas Jones (Member # 2731) on April 25, 2012, 06:43 AM:
 
Hello Mike,
‘essentially advertising for Mussa’ in this forum we look out for each others and when we see something good we like to inform each other about it. In fact I call it information and not advertising. Then it is up to each individual to take a responsibility to do what ever they want with the information. By what you are saying I have ‘essentially advertising for Mussa’. Do you mean I should take responsibility for what goes on between you and him? Let’s make it clear that I only gave the information and what you do with it is up to you.
My experience has been a great one, same as other 100`s on e.bay .I have talk to him about your order Mike .He said you have asked him to check how many splices and lines in each spools .He said if he check all your order it will take him hours. He has lots of happy customers, although he is not just saying it you can check his e.bay feedback as Robert is about to do. He said that he will not check every spool counting the number of splices or number of wear lines, especially for the prices he is selling them.
After all these Advertising ...Opss...I meant information I should get his new film listing first .

 

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Posted by Mike Williamson (Member # 796) on April 25, 2012, 08:29 AM:
 
All I asked of him was the following:

Can you check the color and please let me know the film stock?
Can you let me know the condition, as far as scratches and splices?

This is the bare minimum any collector asks. He never told me he didn't have time to check or that this was a burden. He told me he would get around to it. Three months later, he is saying he doesn't have time and "good luck".

I responded "That's fine, just sell me the following 5 titles you have held for me, then. (instead of 10)" I have not yet heard back.

You posted in this forum for him, and apparently talk to him, so I thought you may have insight as to what was going on. I'm not implying you are working with him, or are responsible in any way, but you clearly have had more one-on-one interaction with him than any of us. Even now you say you talked to him about my order. That's something I couldn't even get done since my last post.

Thanks for your response. I'm not upset with you, obviously. This has just been a frustrating 3 month wait, being put off over and over by Mussa, only for it to possibly end in no sale for no reason at all. He should have just said in the beginning, "these are the prices and I don't have time to check for condition." But that's not what he said to me. He said he WOULD check for condition, so I waited to hear it.
 

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Posted by Leon Thomas Jones (Member # 2731) on April 25, 2012, 09:58 AM:
 
Hi I am leaving it to other forum members to comment on their dealing experiences with him.
 

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Posted by Mike Williamson (Member # 796) on April 25, 2012, 10:19 AM:
 
And look...This could all end ok if he still sells me the films he was holding for me for three months.

A month ago he checked 5 of them for me for color. I said, "great, I'll buy these now and we can do the other 5 when you have time." But he refused, saying he wanted to do them all at once and I had to wait for him to check the other five.

So it was just totally confusing when he emailed saying he didn't have time to check anymore, and implied that was the end of it...No sale.
 

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Posted by Robert Tucker (Member # 386) on April 25, 2012, 05:58 PM:
 
Hi Leon, Let me know how the Tom & Jerry Cartoons are when you get them i believe you bought the collection well done
 

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Posted by Stefano Cacciagrano (Member # 2751) on April 30, 2012, 05:00 PM:
 
I would like to inform anyone contacts the collector in question, that he is giving his 16mm films: it is a very serious and efficient. Completely honest and kind. his films are EXACTLY as he describes them and the prices are really low! I was really pleased with my first order and certainly will take more items from him!
 

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Posted by Simon McConway (Member # 219) on May 05, 2012, 08:39 AM:
 
I have bought with ease, five full features from A. Mussa. There were no problems and I am very pleased indeed with my order! In fact, I look forward to placing my next order. Order today; you won't be dissapointed! Excellent service and great value!
 

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Posted by Leon Thomas Jones (Member # 2731) on May 05, 2012, 10:12 AM:
 
Hi Robert,
I have received my collection of Tom and Jerry .I have only watched few of them .But I am well pleased .I am looking forward to get his list of more expensive films.He has few of the James Bond 007 Films eg From Russia with Love .The only problem is he is not well and that makes him very slow to respond.
 

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Posted by Leon Thomas Jones (Member # 2731) on May 07, 2012, 02:53 AM:
 
I wanted to be the first to give the extras that Mr Mussa added to his 16mm list. I have bought the 'From Russia with Love',yet to pay him ! This time he has to wait and not me. He said his prices are flexible .If you fancy any just offer him the prices that suit you and hope for the best.

The Living Daylights (1987) £175
For Your Eyes Only (1981) £175
Bronco Billy (1980) Clint Eastwood £150
Damien: Omen II (1978) £150
Gandhi (1982) £150

 

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Posted by Jeroen van Ooijen (Member # 1104) on May 17, 2012, 06:11 AM:
 
I have contact him about Petes dragon,he has it and i'll waiting till he found them,because he has over thousand titles in his hugh collection.
Fingers crossed!
 

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Posted by Christian Bjorgen (Member # 1780) on May 17, 2012, 11:58 AM:
 
Mailed him with a list of six titles on February 5, 2012. Still no answer.

I'm not overly confident..
 

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Posted by Leon Thomas Jones (Member # 2731) on May 17, 2012, 05:19 PM:
 
I have bought a copy of Pete’s dragon from him few weeks ago, and wish that I bought his both copies .The colour is brilliant and it is on 3 x 1600ft .I will let you know if I decide to sell it but not for £40.00
 

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Posted by Jonathan Trevithick (Member # 3066) on May 18, 2012, 12:26 AM:
 
In fairness, he replied to all my emails. Unfortunately, each one had sold. Third time I was lucky, except he then told me it was 75 pounds for purchasing the one film (quite a step up from 40). For many films, that is still a very good price, I guess. But I declined.
 

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Posted by Leon Thomas Jones (Member # 2731) on May 18, 2012, 03:51 AM:
 
To be fair, he said clearly in his listing that over five film he will charge £40 each, otherwise if you want to buy under five films .He will price them accordingly.
When I Spock to him last, he was overwhelmed by number of orders, but he said few collector are giving him a hard time .He said they ordered and after he boxed their films they just didn't get back to him. I think it is wasting his time when he can invest it on genuine buyers.
I bought his collection of Tom and Jerry and many other titles like Christmas Carol, The Aristocat, and Song of the south which are all in beautiful conditions. I think at £40 each I have done very well .He is an ill man and it take him long time to find the films among his collections and then check the print, box them and arrange couriers. Please give him time and e-mail him back with your request .I can not wait to have his full list of cartoons and trailers, he said he has over 1000`s .I have no reason not to believe him because of the service I received from him .However, I am not alone to be thankful to his prices and his description of the films .Then again it is not easy to please everyone!
Again remember ... if you order over 5 (five) films you get them for £40.00 each ,otherwise he prices each film at it own merits.After all these I hope I be the one to get his cartoon list first

 

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Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on May 18, 2012, 07:42 AM:
 
I've recently received an order from him. I haven't had a chance to check them out (I'll make a quick comment when I have) but if I'm as satisfied as Leon, I'll be grateful to have had the opportunity as the price was excellent and he had some unusual titles on his extremely long lists. It sometimes takes me quite a while to sort out a handful of prints to sell, so I can imagine that selling off a collection of many hundreds when you're elderly and not in good health must be an enormous challenge.
 

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Posted by Jeroen van Ooijen (Member # 1104) on May 18, 2012, 11:34 AM:
 
So Leon,if i read it right,you maby sell this title,will you think of me?Because it take much time before he decide and find out of has this title,i'm not sp patience to wait for 5 months(Christian).
Let me know!
 

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Posted by Christian Bjorgen (Member # 1780) on May 18, 2012, 02:41 PM:
 
I won't bother sending more mails. Not unless he publishes an updated list, and preferably with some comments on condition.
 

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Posted by Brannon Carty (Member # 2582) on May 29, 2012, 11:32 AM:
 
I just bought a feature film from this seller, he responded very quickly to me and seemed like a nice fellow. I haven't received it yet, but when I will, I'll post my thoughts here. Since he uses PayPal, you can get a refund if he doesn't send your item. His prices are very low as well. The film I bought (Killer Fish, 2x 1600' reels, LPP) was only $180. Lets hope he delivers!
 

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Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on June 01, 2012, 03:54 AM:
 
I think he is struggling to manage on emails, if anyone has his phone number could you possibly email or message me it please.

Thanks Mark.
 

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Posted by Leon Thomas Jones (Member # 2731) on June 01, 2012, 10:12 AM:
 
Hi Mark,
I have phoned him to ask him if it is ok to pass his phone number to other collector. He was not happy about it.He said he is to busy sorting the collectors goods and answering phones would even make him slower than he is!! If he did not respond with your email, just email him again.
He said that he had few large orders from USA, but they are sorted out now .Hopefully, those buyer will leave us some feedback .The good news is that his new list should be ready by Monday.

 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on June 02, 2012, 11:19 AM:
 
Hi Leon,I emailed the gentleman the other day,and received a
very nice reply and his list.Unfortunately the films I tend to
collect are specialist,and I did'nt see any on his list,but he comes
across as a very nice person and very quick response.
 

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Posted by Leon Thomas Jones (Member # 2731) on June 02, 2012, 01:25 PM:
 
Hello Hugh,
Thank you for your comments. Unfortunately, he is ill and very slow. He has emailed his new list to me, so I correct his typing mistake ect . I tell you what he has pages and pages of feature films (Mad-Max , carry on doctor,Rocky 3 ,4 . Piranha ,top Gun,Lethal weapon ,Fire fox )and many odd reels and TV shorts such as Sherlock Holmes ,Roots (1977) 10 episodes and Greatest Heroes of the Bible (1978) 8 episodes and many many more .
If anyone interested you can email him at
16mmfilmbazaar at gmail dot com
I think It will be easier for him to attach his file and send it back to you. His cartoon and trailers list will be next.

Best wishes
Leon
 

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Posted by Brannon Carty (Member # 2582) on June 05, 2012, 01:31 PM:
 
I received KILLER FISH in the mail and it looked stunning! This guy delivers super fast and it didn't cost much at all. I'll be buying from him again in the near future.
 

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Posted by Mike Williamson (Member # 796) on June 05, 2012, 06:15 PM:
 
Mussa held about 10 titles for me for 3 months and then, without explanation, sold them to someone else. I was willing to buy at any moment without inspection. He kept stalling, saying he wanted to check them for me. Incredibly frustrating.

Today he sent me his new list and said "Maybe we can make a deal this time!" I was shocked. What is he thinking?

I responded, "why did you sell the titles you held for me to someone else?"

He replied, "Mike, past is past. I have many more prints you might like."

I responded thusly:
"Past is not past to me, Mussa.

I do not want to deal with someone who drags me along for three months to buy a few prints, only to sell them to someone else for no reason.

That's a bad seller. I would have probably bought 30 prints from you in the long run, but you hurt our relationship by your actions.

There's probably 10 titles on this list right now I'd buy, but it's not worth it to me to deal with a seller who causes me stress and anger. Life's too short."

So...Who got THE TENANT and ROSEMARY'S KILLER? Those were mine. Or they were supposed to be for THREE...LONG...MONTHS of waiting to buy them.
 

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Posted by Leon Thomas Jones (Member # 2731) on June 06, 2012, 05:27 PM:
 
Mike I got the Rosemary`s Killer(in mint condition /no spices /no scratches ,the color 7 out of 10 ) ,but I missed The Tenant .Never mind he might have it in his next list.I also bought the Santa Clues the Move ( 10 out of 10 color and print/no splices/scratches - LPP)this one was a cracker . I am waiting for my next shipment I definitely have to hide them from wife! I think he have another copy of the Rosemary`s Killer ,because he added another over 100 new titles to his second list tonight.But they are mostly odd spools from old horror movies mostly Black and White .
 

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Posted by Mike Williamson (Member # 796) on June 06, 2012, 10:24 PM:
 
Santa Claus The Movie was one he was holding for me, too. Ugh. Infuriating.

Mussa responded to me again today, apologizing and blaming his health for all of the problems with me. He may be sick, but he is certainly capable of selling prints to all of you. He just likes to hold prints for me for 3 months, and then sell them to Leon.
 

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Posted by Leon Thomas Jones (Member # 2731) on June 07, 2012, 04:53 AM:
 
Mike if you wish you can buy them from me. I am fair with prices, but not as fair as Mussa ! Rosemary`s Killer for £195.00 and the Santa Clues the Move £350.00 .If you are not interested I will put them on ebay by this weekend .You have a first choice.
This time you don’t have to wait for three months .I will post them to you as soon as you pay me. This is called a fair deal.
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on June 07, 2012, 02:44 PM:
 
I have asked Mr Mussa just to look to see if the film he has for sale
is the film I'm looking for.The man has assured me he'll check the
title and get back to me.I'm quite sure he will.I'm not going to
ask about fade,film stock,scratches,splices etc as I realise he is
an elderly gentleman and unwell if I can make things easier, I will.
 

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Posted by Mike Williamson (Member # 796) on June 07, 2012, 10:03 PM:
 
Leon, I sent you an email.
 

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Posted by Richard Fullerton (Member # 2457) on June 22, 2012, 11:08 AM:
 
Hi there all,
I know some people have had doubts with this seller, but I really don't see why. From my experience, he has been very efficient in terms of responding to emails, and generally replies within less than two days. However, if 2 days pass and he hasn't responded, I generally find that he isn't going to. He is VERY busy getting through his feature films, and he does struggle to respond a bit (understandably), but he has been generally good with me.
However, what happened with Mr Williamson is rather odd...
Richard.
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on June 22, 2012, 12:55 PM:
 
I have just received my film "Ulysses" from Mr Mussa and can
only say that the man is a gentleman and I have nothing but
praise for the man,who is in bad health.If you have an order with
him,please be patient as he will get round to you.
 

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Posted by Mike Williamson (Member # 796) on June 24, 2012, 12:12 PM:
 
Yes, Richard. It was rather odd what happened to me with Mussa.

And also odd that after offering me a couple of the films Leon bought that were originally held for me, Leon has not responded to my email inquiry for 3 weeks now.

I get the feeling I'm just being toyed with by these people. Maybe they hate Americans.

Whatever. I'm over it. But if anyone got THE TENANT from Mussa, consider selling it to me, please.

To those that got good prints, I'm happy you didn't have to go through the frustrations I did!
 

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Posted by Richard Fullerton (Member # 2457) on June 24, 2012, 01:22 PM:
 
Hi there Mike,
Hmm, did you check ebay at the time? He said that if you didn't want them, he would put them on ebay. However, if you did want them, thats even stranger!
While I am yet to physically buy something from Mussa, he does respond very quickly to me and seems like a nice person. Thats why your situation does seem rather weird...
Richard.
 

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Posted by Leon Thomas Jones (Member # 2731) on June 24, 2012, 04:25 PM:
 
Mike,
I was working away in Texas. I do have the TENANT like new print LPP .I bought it few years ago. If you want it you can have it for £70.00 + postage as I will be in Texas within next few weeks to complete my work. Anyway, I do love Americans because my wife is an American .
Unfortunately, I did not get your last email, and both films were sold to fellow American collector Steve ...Sorry
 

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Posted by Mike Williamson (Member # 796) on June 24, 2012, 11:24 PM:
 
Leon, I'll send you a PM through the forum. Hope you get it. Respond here if you don't.

I was born and raised in Texas, by the way.
 

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Posted by Mike Williamson (Member # 796) on June 26, 2012, 10:01 AM:
 
Leon, did you get my PM? I do want that TENANT print. Please hold it for me.
 

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Posted by Mike Williamson (Member # 796) on June 29, 2012, 12:30 PM:
 
Leon? You out there? Check your PMs.
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on June 29, 2012, 03:16 PM:
 
Fingers crossed for you Mike.
 

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Posted by Mike Williamson (Member # 796) on June 30, 2012, 12:12 PM:
 
Thanks, Hugh. I've got my fingers crossed, too.

I sent Leon an email, a pm, and posted in this forum. Have not heard back.

The cynic in me still thinks this is all some cruel joke, but I hope not.
 

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Posted by Richard C Patchett (Member # 974) on June 30, 2012, 02:43 PM:
 
Greetings Tom

Between 1935 and 1984, the Sons of the Pioneers appeared in 87 films, several movie shorts, and a television series.[12]

In 1937, the Sons Of The Pioneers signed a deal with Columbia Pictures to appear in a number of movies. In 1938, Leonard Slye was offered a contract as an actor with rival Republic Pictures. Part of that deal required him to officially leave the group. Leonard Slye changed his name to Roy Rogers, and went on to achieve major success as a singing cowboy in the movies. Roy Rogers and the Sons of the Pioneers still remained close throughout the coming years. When their contract with Columbia Pictures ended, they signed a new contract with Republic Pictures to be with Roy. They were soon appearing as highly popular supporting players in many of Roy Rogers' movies.[13]

In addition to their appearances and filmed performances, their music was used in numerous other films and television shows. They recorded songs for the John Ford movies Wagon Master in 1949 and Rio Grande in 1950, and performed the theme song for the John Ford classic The Searchers in 1956. "Tumbling Tumbleweeds" was used in the Coen Brothers film The Big Lebowski in 1998. "Cool Water" was used in the Gore Verbinski animated film Rango in 2011.

Note Leonard Slye started as a truck driver on which i am but i can not hold a note
 

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Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on June 30, 2012, 06:54 PM:
 
Richard to whom are you replying your email above?

Mike your situation is kind of weird to me. Can you now say to yourself:

- I don't need that film
- there are various way to get that film
- I can live without that film
- when I die I cannot bring that film to the grave

Do not be slaved by that film. Then you have a free life.

End of story and you can find another title in more promising way!

Good luck!
 

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Posted by Mike Williamson (Member # 796) on July 01, 2012, 12:57 AM:
 
Hi Winbert. My situation is weird to me, too. Trust me!

I can certainly live without any film, but as a collector I'm sure you understand it's incredibly annoying to have titles offered to you and then receive no follow through.

If I never hear back from Leon, this will be the 3rd instance IN THIS THREAD ALONE where I would have had prints offered to me, and then sold elsewhere.

Like I said... Cruel joke? Is anyone actually laughing? We'll see.

Mike
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on July 01, 2012, 05:57 PM:
 
Mike I fully sympathise with your predicament,it is very frustrating
to be denied your print at the eleventh hour.I have had this done
to me in the past when a dealer who knew my interest in certain
titles and a specific one I always asked for was sold from under
me.It's a bitter pill to swallow,but I can remember all the bloody
pills I've swallowed,when we used to rely on letter post,and having
to sweat waiting to be told your film had gone.Those were the days when people weren't bothered of what stock a film was
printed on,or if there were splices etc,we were just glad to have
a print of the film we wanted.One of the 16mm titles I once
bought had over 50 splices in the first spool and was a faded
print,but was 'scope and a decent title.Winbert how can you
lecture Mike on his doggedness in chasing his film,when you
admitted you like to phone them up to make sure that they're
all tucked in for the night when you're working away? As for
being separated from some of my films when I curl my toes up,
if I can't take 'em with me ,I aint going!!!
If you wish Mike,I'll try and contact Leon for you,it could be
the line of communication that's at fault,and I do live a bit
nearer.
 

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Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on July 01, 2012, 06:29 PM:
 

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Winbert how can you
lecture Mike on his doggedness in chasing his film,when you
admitted you like to phone them up to make sure that they're
all tucked in for the night when you're working away?

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he can always go out and pick a
fight,works for me.

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Posted by Mike Williamson (Member # 796) on July 01, 2012, 07:55 PM:
 

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So this a 99.99% legit transaction and the seller doesn't hate American, like you think.

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Winbert, I didn't really think anyone hated Americans here. It was just a joke.

And Hugh, if you want to contact Leon because you think you can get a hold of him, that's much appreciated.

Thanks guys,
Mike
 

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Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on July 01, 2012, 08:42 PM:
 
Sorry guys, English is not my first language.

Again...good luck Mike!
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on July 02, 2012, 09:56 AM:
 
Winbert,stop apologising,we're only having a "knock about",a
bit of fun,and your English is very good.
Mike, I've left an email for Leon to get in touch with me,which I've
no doubt he will.I think he travels a lot,I'm sure he said something about being in America shortly.Anyway I'll see what transpires
and I'll let you know.
 

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Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on July 02, 2012, 10:37 AM:
 
Leon,

Didn't you say you missed The Tenant from that original list and hoped that it would turn up on the next list?

Why would you be interested in that title if you already had a nice LPP print?

Maybe I'm missing something.

 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on July 02, 2012, 11:56 AM:
 
Well Leon says he has a copy that he will sell to Mike,but the
lines of communication are not as good as they were ( I've had a
job trying to contact one of our members )so if I can raise Leon,
I'll see what transpires,hope it's easier than raising the Titanic.
 

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Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on July 02, 2012, 12:54 PM:
 
Well, it's the weirdest, most drawn-out film sale I've ever come across. Why is Mike having such trouble getting this print? It doesn't add up to me.
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on July 02, 2012, 01:17 PM:
 
Michael,your guess is as good as mine,but there could be a fault
in the system,whatever,if I can help in communication,why not.
It's obviously a print that Mike wants,and we've all been there,
so if Leon can get in touch with me,we'll see if we can get some results.
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on July 03, 2012, 07:56 AM:
 
Hi Mike,as a post scriptum,Leon does say in column 2 of this
thread that he would be working in Texas over the next few weeks
I have already left an email for him asking him if he would get in touch with me.
 

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Posted by Mike Williamson (Member # 796) on July 04, 2012, 10:50 PM:
 
Actually, Leon says "I will be in Texas within next few weeks to complete my work", which means to me he has not left again yet.

As of 2 days ago, my PM to Leon changed from "unread" to "read". But still no response.

Leon, you out there? Maybe you are in Texas. I know some parts of Texas, my home state, can be pretty backwoods-y, but I'm almost positive the state has integrated the internet into all of it by now.
 

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Posted by Mike Williamson (Member # 796) on July 09, 2012, 04:42 PM:
 
Still no word from Leon.

Does anyone on this forum actually know him?
 

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Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on July 09, 2012, 04:59 PM:
 
Somethin' ain't right here, Mikey.

 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on July 10, 2012, 04:57 AM:
 
Hello Mike,I 've asked him yet again to contact me,if he's in the
country that is.I'm sure he will in the fullness of time.
 

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Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on July 10, 2012, 07:11 AM:
 
In the fullness of time???

Mike is looking to buy some films here. If the guy wants to sell them to him, why is he not responding? Surely, he could at least email Mike to say "I'm real busy at the moment, but I got your messages and I will get back to you" or some such.

This appears to have more to it than meets the eye, is my feeling.
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on July 17, 2012, 02:54 PM:
 
Well Michael,I must say it is rather odd,I have asked Leon to
contact me by e-mail but yet again no response,don't know
what strange game is being played here,but if Leon is not
available through being out of the country,fair enough,but if
not, then this comes across as plain rude.Mike expressed an interest in purchasing some film,then nothing from Leon.
Maybe he's staying out of the country until the Olympics are over,
can't fault him for that! As Alice said "Curiouser and curiouser"
 

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Posted by Mike Williamson (Member # 796) on July 19, 2012, 11:37 PM:
 
Thanks for your efforts, Hugh.

I think it's pretty obvious Leon is playing some sort of strange and mean spirited game. Like I mentioned, he read my PM weeks ago (after I had made it clear on the forum I had not received a response yet) and he still chose not to respond.

Out of the country or not (I'm guessing not), the internet is ubiquitous anywhere you go...Yes, even Texas. I don't believe he has any intention of selling me these prints, if he had them at all.

And I'll ask again...Has anyone ACTUALLY met Leon in person?

Oh well. Onward to better prints!
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on July 20, 2012, 03:24 PM:
 
Don't be downhearted Mike,there are some people over here
that I can recommend for 16mm,the only obstacle is the shipping
charges.If you can let me know by private mail the titles you're
interested in,I will see if I can turn them up for you,by that I mean
I'll let you know who has it for sale and you can take it from there.
 

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Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on July 21, 2012, 09:52 AM:
 
I don't know anything about Leon other than via his posts here, but I was a bit surprised by the one a while back in which he said "I am fair with prices" and then asked £195 and £350 for films he had recently paid £40 each for! Even if the prices asked reflected their market value, which I doubt, it wasn't a very diplomatic approach to selling!
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on July 21, 2012, 12:45 PM:
 
It did seem cheeky I must admit Adrian,not exactly doing some
poor soul a favour.Well Leon,this isn't the way to treat your fellow
members, especially one of them who wanted nothing other
than to purchase some films from you.
 

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Posted by Jonathan Trevithick (Member # 3066) on July 22, 2012, 06:17 AM:
 
Interestingly,in one earlier post Leon says,"The prices are getting out of reach of the poor mans .Thanks to some dealers with increases up to 40%".
 

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Posted by Simon McConway (Member # 219) on July 23, 2012, 05:26 AM:
 
Another consignment of films safely received this morning. This is the second time I've received faultless service from Mussa.
 

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Posted by Mike Williamson (Member # 796) on July 23, 2012, 11:21 AM:
 

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I don't know anything about Leon other than via his posts here, but I was a bit surprised by the one a while back in which he said "I am fair with prices" and then asked £195 and £350 for films he had recently paid £40 each for! Even if the prices asked reflected their market value, which I doubt, it wasn't a very diplomatic approach to selling!

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Yeah, there's no way a Pan and Scan print of SANTA CLAUS: The Movie is worth that. I also wonder if the person "Steve in the USA" Leon says he sold it to will ever surface. I doubt he even exists...
 

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Posted by Leon Thomas Jones (Member # 2731) on July 26, 2012, 03:20 PM:
 
Wow Greeting, it seems while I was in hospital lots of talking were going on. I am just wondering how you wanted me to replay to your mails while I was having my heart operation. I am home now and slowly recovering, but why all these non sense talks?
I had heart issues for many years now, but not a heart attack .It was a painful journey .I am on the mend now, sort of you don’t need to talk behind my back and judge me .
I will be fine, just need time to heal .
Lastly , I am sorry that I could not respond to your mails more quickly.


 

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Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on July 27, 2012, 03:07 AM:
 
Ah, Leon, you're back. I hope you're on the road to recovery.

As I asked earlier:

Didn't you say you missed The Tenant from that original list and hoped that it would turn up on the next list?

Why would you be interested in that title if you already had a nice LPP print?

Maybe I'm missing something.
 

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Posted by Leon Thomas Jones (Member # 2731) on July 27, 2012, 03:21 AM:
 
Michael, Michael... you naughty naughty boy .

are you teasing or just Inquisitive ? enjoy the sun
 

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Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on July 27, 2012, 04:05 AM:
 

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are you teasing or just Inquisitive ?

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Mildly interested.

So, what's your answer?
 

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Posted by Leon Thomas Jones (Member # 2731) on July 27, 2012, 06:13 AM:
 
Michael, Michael... are you trying to play detective games with me or you are just bored today ? Ah; Still I think you are naughty boy.
And if you keep this up I will call you a naughty detective Michael
 

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Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on July 29, 2012, 11:59 PM:
 
I've just deleted a post that I felt was too harsh, however upon re-reading the entire thread I'm not sure it was unwarranted. There are a number of members who are happy in their dealings with the seller, while some appear to have been ignored or mistreated.

The situation with Mike W. has to be one of the strangest ones I've come across.

Mike, I know you are upset, but let's try again to settle this dispute.

Leon, I hope each day finds you getting better. I'm glad to see you've been posting again. Since you're not the seller, I can't ask you to explain about the films that were being held for Mike, however if you could reply to Mike about The Tennant it would be greatly appreciated. This can be handled off-Forum if you prefer.

Doug
 

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Posted by Mike Williamson (Member # 796) on July 30, 2012, 12:17 AM:
 
Doug, how was it harsh what I said? Leon has clearly been lying. As a moderator, you should look out for the forum members and protect them from shady actions and falsities.

I officially ask you re-instate my post. I have received numerous emails from forum members about this thread over the last month and everyone agrees...Something's not right with Leon.

And he won't respond to me about THE TENANT in PM or otherwise. If you read this whole saga, you should know that much. Plus he told Hugh yesterday that he sold it. While he was in the hospital. Recovering from heart surgery.

He made it back to the computer JUST in time to post about Mussa's new list though. That was convenient.
 

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Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on July 30, 2012, 10:59 AM:
 
I'd just like to add to this farago Doug,I can't let Mike take all the
blame on this,I had a starring role,so my fault too.Leon,certainly
has not helped the situation by saying a print was available then
withdrawing the offer,I've got to ask what kind of childish scenario
are we in? i'm coming to the conclusion that some sellers have
run away with the idea that they dangle a film like a fish,everyone must clamour for it and be grateful and in this case,trying to demean someone,I find distasteful in the extreme.Also as has
been pointed out,I didn't know that the NHS had had the
internet installed for our patients in the UK,It's bad enough
trying to get proper after care let alone fripperies.
 

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Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on July 30, 2012, 02:31 PM:
 
Now, Mike you start believing me right. With my instinct of my professional job I could smell what was happening.

But you cannot also accused Leon = Moussa as this unfair for him. The only way is to use analytic method using the telematics method which is now widely used to find out the origin of an email.

Now, some of you must have an email from Leon (gegeesuper8@gmail.com) and Moussa (16mmfilmbazaar@gmail.com), right?

Anyone get email from the above emails please post here the body of email respectively.

The body of email is also known as message source. At hotmail you can see it here:



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...I just don’t feel safe doing any dealing with Mike .He is aggressive ,as you can read from his posting.
And yes, Winbert I am double agent Leon=Mussa. Have a read at satisfied collector who bought of him in last few months.
Doug, thank you again for providing such a great forum

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Mike,
I was working away in Texas. I do have the TENANT like new print LPP .I bought it few years ago. If you want it you can have it for £70.00 + postage as I will be in Texas within next few weeks to complete my work. Anyway, I do love Americans because my wife is an American .

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Wow Greeting, it seems while I was in hospital lots of talking were going on. I am just wondering how you wanted me to replay to your mails while I was having my heart operation. I am home now and slowly recovering, but why all these non sense talks?
I had heart issues for many years now, but not a heart attack .It was a painful journey .I am on the mend now, sort of you don’t need to talk behind my back and judge me .
I will be fine, just need time to heal .
Lastly , I am sorry that I could not respond to your mails more quickly.

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Mike…. I do love Americans because my wife is an American .

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