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Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on August 16, 2009, 10:11 AM:

He had a film listed for £99 on ebay but unfortunately I missed the end of the auction. It didnt sell so he relisted it at £110 so I asked the question why the price hike and he just replied saying that If I wanted it to bid on it, do so because if it doesn't sell he's selling it to someone who has offered him £125. Now surely if that person exists he would also bid and possibly get it at the lower price?

Is this a ploy to make sales I wonder? [Eek!]

Kev.

[ August 16, 2009, 06:15 PM: Message edited by: Kevin Faulkner ]

Posted by Phillip Black (Member # 179) on August 16, 2009, 11:25 AM:

I believe that he has put up his prices after eBay got a complaint about him overcharging for postage. As for someone wanting the film for 125 etc I would assume that this was not the case.

Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on August 16, 2009, 12:46 PM:

Thats David Guest.

I've never bought from him though he has bought from me in the past and my dealings with him were fine.

However, I know of one other collector who has had a pretty terrible time with him.

-Mike

Posted by David Erskine (Member # 1244) on August 16, 2009, 04:48 PM:

David's OK - just bear in mind that he is also a fairground man (runs rides) and - like most of us - is fairly set in his ways. I've done lots of deal with him (both on eBay and at Blackpool) and he's always been fine.
Cheers, David E

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on August 16, 2009, 04:53 PM:

quote:
but unfortunately I missed the end of the auction

Kev, you probably didn't miss the end of auction but he ended the auction early due to the complain about his high shipping cost. Then he re-listed with a new price with all cost absorp to hi starting price.

ps: I saw that now we cannot see the different between someone ends the auction early with and an auction ended on time. Because in the history page of the auction, there is no any info about the starting time and length of the auction.

Before the old Ebay (long time ago) had this history, so everyone ended the auction early could be seen if the length of the auction did not correspondence with the end of auction.

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on August 16, 2009, 05:59 PM:

Well I really dont understand the guy. He sent me a mail (via ebay) saying that if I bid on it he would include the shipping in the cost. He seems to forget that the auction has another 7 days to run.

This is what I got from him this evening:

"i noticed you have not placed a bid on film even when i have offered free post which makes it the nearer the same as last time if notplaced a bid in 48 hours i know you dont want it and the free post will not apply" (text copied and pasted from his reply to me)

Now what sort of dealings is this? I would have thought that he would have closed the auction if he had an offer for £125 (when it didnt sell last time) but instead he wants ME to bid on it! Does he have a method of pushing the price up?

Kev.

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on August 16, 2009, 06:10 PM:

He just simply want to see his auction runs. If you have placed the bid, he has an assurance that his film will sell at least at the starting price. He hopes that with your bid there will be a bid wars with another ebayer.

I think it is still fair enough... remember a saying "early bird gets worms".

If I were you, Kev, I'll place my bid and if no one outbid me, I can ask a free postage as he mentioned. And that will be the same cost if you won at his firs listings, won't it?

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on August 16, 2009, 06:18 PM:

Yes possibly you are right. I have asked him what the hell he thinks he's playing at so maybe he will now not want to deal. The thing is that I have asked this guy twice to describe the film condition in more detail and that has not been forthcoming [Frown]

I have now left a bid so lets see what happens!

Kev.

Posted by Paul Spinks (Member # 573) on August 16, 2009, 07:53 PM:

I am presently trying to find out why he has not posted a 16mm film out to me which I paid for instantly as soon as I won it on 4th August. I sent him an email to which he has not responded so I will send him another and if he does not reply to that one I will start a PayPal dispute. I had a similar experience with him a few years back and he refunded the money after I eventually contacted him via ebay. I think if his films do not do as well as he hopes in the auction (I was the only bidder on both occasions) he doesn't send them out but only refunds the money if you get on to him. I certainly will not be dealing with him again.

Paul.

Posted by Steven J Kirk (Member # 1135) on August 16, 2009, 08:15 PM:

Wasn't he married to Liza Minnelli?

Posted by Paul Spinks (Member # 573) on August 16, 2009, 08:40 PM:

That's him. [Wink]

Posted by Steven Sigel (Member # 21) on August 16, 2009, 08:54 PM:

About a year and a half ago - I bought a very expensive print from him (paid about $750 including shipping to the US). A month or so went by and I kept asking about it. He finally claimed to have shipped it - but by uninsured surface mail (I asked and paid for insured airmail) - his claim was that it cost more than he thought for shipping so he had decided to use surface. He should have either just sent it air mail and paid the additional expense (although based on what other dealers have charged from the UK, I think what I sent was quite enough), or at very least he should have contacted me and asked for the difference.

I never received the print at all.

When I questioned him on it he sent me a scan of a receipt (which could have been for anything) and refused to do anything about it.

So either a) he did really ship it surface and it got lost (in which case he should have at least offered to refund some of the money since it was his fault it went surface - he had originally listed the print for 99 pounds on ebay and I had paid something like 350 pounds - so he had plenty of room to refund say half the money and still would have made more than his original asking price) or b) he never sent it at all.

This is the largest loss I have ever suffered in my 20 years of film collecting.

Posted by Greg Marshall (Member # 1268) on August 16, 2009, 10:43 PM:

Seriously... this is Liza's ex?

Steve, that's wrong of him to take it upon himself to choose not to ship something insured, when you paid for insurance. That is fraud, and PayPal/Ebay should have investigated. He broke the terms of the agreement you had, and he should have been made to refund all of your money. I'd be hot as hell over this if this had happened to me!

OK, stepping down of my box now.

Posted by Paul Spinks (Member # 573) on August 16, 2009, 11:39 PM:

Liza Minnelli's ex is a different David Guest who has no connection with this ebay seller.

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on August 17, 2009, 03:23 AM:

Interesting. I have had a couple of private emails suggesting this character can be a bit dodgy. We will see.

Steve, Why didnt you do something about trying to recover some of your money if not all? I wouldnt have let him get away with that.

Kev.

Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on August 17, 2009, 06:21 AM:

I've noticed that on some of his listings he says that if you pay using Paypal it may be two weeks before the film is shipped???
I thought one of the benefits of instant payment was quick shipping.

Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on August 17, 2009, 07:12 AM:

Quote from listing -

"POSTAGE WILL BE £12.00 UK RATE ONLY.PLEASE NOTE IF YOU PAY WITH PAYPAL FILM WILL NOT BE SENT UNTIL PAYPAL TRANSACTION GOES INTO MY BANK ACCOUNT WHICH USUALLY TAKE 2 WEEKS APROX ALSO FILM IS TO BE FULLY INSURED AND THERE WILL BE A £5.00 AS WELL AS POSTAGE CHARGE IN CASE FILM GETS LOST"

So the postage is actually £17.00?? [Frown]

I reckon the "Paypal transaction taking two weeks" bit is the time it can take Paypal to transfer the funds into the sellers Bank Account.

He sounds "a trusting sort of fellow".....? [Confused]

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on August 17, 2009, 08:11 AM:

Normally it only takes PayPal 4 - 5 working days to transfer funds to a bank account and very often it's quicker than this.

Posted by Paul Spinks (Member # 573) on August 17, 2009, 08:21 AM:

These new terms and conditions were added to the auction on 16th August, probably after he received the emails about this film. As of yet I have received absolutely no response whatsoever to my 2 messages concerning my films non arrival. I'll keep you up to date as to how this issue progresses.

Paul.

Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on August 17, 2009, 08:31 AM:

That's true Kevin. I think he is just "edging his bets" with the "two weeks" ploy (Are yes, Kato - the old two weeks ploy?).

I thought that money that is paid into your Paypal account, from a buyer, was "guaranteed"? Doesn't the money have to be available from some source or another, before Paypal consider the transaction complete? If so, what's the problem? Other than a delaying tactic, prior to posting and what anyone would gain from that, I have no idea?

Once the goods are sold, paid for, then why not despatch them quickly? To quote "compare the meerkat" - "Simples".

Posted by Paul Spinks (Member # 573) on August 17, 2009, 11:05 AM:

Good News! I received an email this afternoon from dwg1000 saying that he had replied to my first email (I searched in every possible place for it but I couldn't find it). He has posted my film off to me today only 13 days after I paid for it. [Roll Eyes]

So hopefully it should be with me soon.

Paul.

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on August 17, 2009, 04:40 PM:

Maybe he is reading this thread? I had another email today form another forum member saying that he read most of the forums and indeed was denied membership on another.
I, in an email to him sent him the link to this one. Thought it might be a good idea if he realised how people feel about his selling tactics etc.

Kev.

Posted by Greg Marshall (Member # 1268) on August 17, 2009, 06:54 PM:

Well, I think those are ridiculous rules that he likes to add to his auctions. That's his choice, of course... but I would not buy from him with these types of antics. Doesn't feedback mean anything anymore???? It's called trusting that 100%!

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on August 17, 2009, 08:48 PM:

Greg, new ebay rulles say it will remove all negative feedback from the accumulation after 1 year passed.

But with http://www.toolhaus.org/ you can find all his negative and neutral feedbacks from his previous years.

cheers,

Posted by Greg Marshall (Member # 1268) on August 17, 2009, 10:01 PM:

Thanks, Winbert, I did not know that existed. I've added it to my favorites for future auctions.

Posted by Paul Spinks (Member # 573) on August 17, 2009, 11:12 PM:

I've just done that as well. It's quite surprising isn't it. I wondered about that 100% feedback.

Paul.

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on August 18, 2009, 06:25 PM:

Well the saga continues. Tonight Mr Guest cancelled my bid asking where on the 8mm forum this thread is. Maybe he will now find it himself as it's back at the top.

Seems like this may just have hit a bad nerve and opened a few sore wounds. Maybe he did me a favour.
Never did get an explanation as to the actual quality of the film. The reason I asked is going back through his auctions I noticed the wording was always the same and obviously copied and pasted from one auction to another with some minor variations. I think this seller is one to avoid.

Kev.

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on August 18, 2009, 06:41 PM:

Well guys I have just finally had a rather long message from our David Guest and I thought you might all like to read it especially Paul as I think it makes ref to him as well. I think it sums this guy up quite well and in my mind one to be avoided.

"i have decided to stop you from bidding on my films as you are a constant winger i can sell my films anywere as i sell dozerns every week . re buying from states i have been conned 3 times over films some never came and others stunk of vinegar and never got anything back also 2nd cue was conned by the same man as me .you had the chance the last time to buy this film but was like the other nosey watchers who never places bids .i gave you the chance second time round to purchase it with free postage and you still moan .yes i did put film on for £99.00 and got 41 watchers so i thought i would put it on again and see how many watchers again bingo 64 up to date ,i have sold loads of films and never no comebacks as for the other man who winges on about not haveing his film yet its on its way and he wont be able to bid in my films also, buy of derans they sell films, i work 7 days aweek 50 weeks of the year and maybee i have not as much time as you ,i will always refund if not happy with films but you all forget you are buying used film that have been shown dozerns of time not new ones people make me laugh when they say a mint print as there are no mint prints as the first time they are shown how can they be mint i sell my films at very reasanable prices not like some by the way murder she said was in great shape have 2 prints of this seen this title seen on sold at derans film fair for £180 so you missed a bargain its true what david eskine says iam very busy and sold him loads of film and projecters plus loads more like mark silvester thanks"

So there you have it from the winger in Essex UK [Wink]

Kev.

BTW I did tell him for legal reasons that I was putting his message on the forum.

Posted by Greg Marshall (Member # 1268) on August 18, 2009, 10:23 PM:

I have one word for him..... THERAPY! Does a body good! :-)

Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on August 19, 2009, 02:19 AM:

So, according to Mr,Guest, if you ask genuine questions about a sale, you are a "Whinger"? As for his "so-called" 64 watchers, he obviously has not realised that most of these are forum members who have read this thread and are "watching" the outcome?

Probably for the best that he "let you off the hook" Kevin, with the bid. No point in "courting disaster". Now, he can sell it to his "original buyer" for £125.00 (plus £12.00 postage and £5.00 insurance). [Confused]

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on August 19, 2009, 07:12 AM:

Correct Keith were all wingers if we question him. I would say this guy is a Dealer? "Sold from one collector to another" appears in all his listings and I bet they never get checked looking at the numbers he sells.

Anyway its a warning to others. Question him and your a winger, buy from him and keep your fingers crossed. The description in his auctions is all the info you need to have!

Kev.

Posted by Paul Spinks (Member # 573) on August 19, 2009, 08:57 AM:

Hi Everyone,
the 16mm feature "Postmark For Danger" arrived safely this afternoon from David Guest. It was nicely packed and it's a nice print in good condition. Apart from the time it took for him to post it off to me I have to say that the transaction eventually concluded in a positive way. I shall be leaving him positive feedback accordingly. He states in his descriptions that he has many more 16mm features to sell, so it is a shame that he is not more considerate to those who wish to bid on his films, as he would probably sell them at higher prices than he is getting for them now through the goodwill that would be generated from good "customer service". You come across different people in this great hobby of ours. Some, like good old Umit, are lovely people who it is a pleasure to deal with. Dealers like Ian O'Rielly, Barry Attwood, Paul Foster and Larry Pearce always give sterling service and we know that they are honest in their descriptions and friendly in their dealings with us. At the other end of the spectrum there is that small minority to which the age old term "Caveat Emptor" sadly can often apply. I shall not be trading again with dwg1000, not just because in his words I am a "winger" and am banned from bidding on any of his listings, but because it was not a friendly transaction and I felt that he had no respect or consideration for me as a buyer of his films.

Paul
Essex Whinger (West Essex Chapter).

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on August 19, 2009, 11:15 AM:

Paul, I didnt realise were nearly neighbours....The Essex Wingers at that [Big Grin]

I'm at Rayleigh (Thundersley)

Kev.

Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on August 19, 2009, 11:52 AM:

"Essex Whingers" - a breakaway chapter of the "Black Country Moaning Society" - Purveyors of quality moans and whinges to the masses. [Wink]

[ August 21, 2009, 05:33 AM: Message edited by: Keith Ashfield ]

Posted by Kevin Wardle (Member # 1680) on August 19, 2009, 01:56 PM:

When I list films on Ebay I try to offer a fair price and the postage is kept at the same price usually, which I consider to be reasonable. Sometimes I have to make two trips in my car, pay for parking, etc..And it ALL adds up! As well as Ebay fees, etc.. [Frown]

All the films and items I have listed have been good. However, there are some sharks out there and collectors have to be aware of this. It's just a shame people have to spoil things for other people. Never mind that's life! End of rant! [Big Grin]

Kevin

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on August 19, 2009, 07:05 PM:

The saga continues! I have had 2 emails tonight from this guy. The first says: still waiting for name of forum member who told you i was blocked from joing or is this just lies i will be launching an investagtion about this as this is slander

And the second says:

cat still got your tongue just been told you go to ealing im haveing a ride this year looking forward to seeing you regards

Looks like this guy is starting to get threatening. He keeps sending messages like this all the time. If I dont reply he keeps asking if the cat has got my tongue!!!

Looks like a Dealer who should be given a wide berth. I think we should have a topic on the forum of ebay dealers who should be avoided.

Does anyone else agree with that?

Kev.

Posted by Bill Phelps (Member # 1431) on August 19, 2009, 08:11 PM:

Kev,

I think that's a good idea. Sounds like this fella is getting awful fussed up...tossing bidders off his stuff for no real reason.

Why is it it is so hard for people(me included)to admit that they are wrong sometimes and lighten up?

I think it would be a good idea to have such a list but I also think it needs to stay objective and only present the facts of the situation and allow those who read it to make there own decision about the dealers in question. It should not become a place to dog on people.

Bill

Posted by Greg Marshall (Member # 1268) on August 19, 2009, 09:26 PM:

I agree, Kevin. Keep your emails.... you may need them for the authorities.

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on August 20, 2009, 03:13 AM:

The item has once more been relisted with an extra line in the description about wingers!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/16mm-sound-feature-film-B-W-MURDER-SHE-SAID-REVISED_W0QQitemZ140340737057QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_DVD_Film_TV_OtherFormats_GL?hash=item20acf5b421&_trksid=p3 911.c0.m14#ht_500wt_1182

Laughable really [Big Grin]

Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on August 20, 2009, 03:29 AM:

"THIS IS FOR ALL THE WINGERS WHO ASKS LOADS OF QUESTIONS BUT NEVER PLACE BIDS"

You did place a bid Kevin? It was cancelled because you had the audacity to ask questions (sorry "whinge")!

"ANY QUERIES PLEASE RING ME ANYTIME AND I WILL GIVE A FULLY DETAILED DESCRIPTION AND ANSWER ALL QUESTIONS" ????????

You obviously didn't ask the right questions?? (Sorry "whinges") [Confused]

Posted by Kevin Wardle (Member # 1680) on August 20, 2009, 01:12 PM:

Yes, I agree we should have a list of Ebayers who are a bit dodgy! [Wink]

I buy a lot from Ebay, and sell, so a list like that would most welcome! [Smile]

Kevin.

Posted by Greg Marshall (Member # 1268) on August 20, 2009, 07:11 PM:

That is too funny.... I need to get my dictionary out... I have no idea what the definition of a 'winger' is.

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on August 20, 2009, 07:44 PM:

But would that be legal? we just have a case of defamation, and google lost the case.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/08/19/2009-08-19_court_tells_model_liskula_cohen_identity_of_blogger_that_called_her_a_skank_she_.html

and

http://government.zdnet.com/?p=5262

I think rather than to have a formal list like Kevin suggested I prefer with a case by case posting.

My 2 cents,

Posted by John W. Black (Member # 1082) on August 20, 2009, 09:39 PM:

Call me silly,but after reading about this guy,I would never buy anything off him,even if it was a film I really wanted.You can get rid of these guys by not patronising them.Sorry to see what happened to Steve.

Posted by Paul Spinks (Member # 573) on August 20, 2009, 11:42 PM:

Greg,
the correct spelling I believe is whinger. It describes someone who is constantly moaning and complaining. As to David Guest I feel that I cannot honestly say that he is that bad a seller. He is quite slow in dispatching his films and he isn't that big on descriptions, but he does provide a telephone number for any questions you might have. The print I purchased from him was in very nice condition which exceeded the sketchy description in his listing. I did have problems with the non arrival of a film of his that I won a couple of years ago but he fully refunded my money with no quibbles. I checked back on my feedback and I noted that I had purchased more nice prints from him in 2003 and 2004 which I was very happy with. He can be intimidating and a little rude, probably in response to this discussion about him on the forum, but he has many satisfied buyers who have left him positive feedback over the years. His treatment of Steven Sigel however is quite indefensible and cannot be justified. Though he was slow in posting my film and he cancelled Kevin's bid because he asked for a fuller description of a films condition and called us both whingers, I do not believe that he should be put on a bad sellers list as this should be reserved for scammers and people who sell rubbish prints which he clearly does not do. He, on the other hand, would do well to accept that it is not unreasonable for potential bidders to ask questions about a films condition if the description is not very concise and should reconsider charging £17.00 postage for a feature if purchased with PayPal as that is obviously excessive. But there I go whingeing again! [Big Grin]

Paul.

Posted by Robert Lewis (Member # 1458) on August 21, 2009, 05:26 AM:

I have been following this thread, and I have to say that it seems all quite unfortunate.

It seems things started when an auction ended before a bid could be placed. That was followed by the opening of a new auction at a higher opening price, no doubt something which a seller is perfectly entitled to do without being obligated to explain his actions. There then followed what can only be described as an unfortunate exchange of emails.

I find it impossible to form views on matters such as transaction times, delivery delays or failed deliveries, simply because I am not able see the whole picture in relation to each issue. There is, however, a saying which comes to mind: "as long as words are such an imperfect means of communication, there will always be a role for lawyers", and it seems to me that much of what is causing concern to the individuals concerned could, perhaps, be sorted out by speaking with David Guest.

I can only speak as I find, and I have purchased both a projector and a film from David.

I found him a perfectly straightforward guy to deal with, and the quality and pricing of both projector and film I purchased from him were excellent. On both occasions I visited David and paid cash. This way, I was able to avoid the risks and costs associated with postage or other delivery services, although I appreciate that not everybody is able to do this. I found him to be very hospitable and helpful.

I am therefore wondering whether, even at this point, there isn't something to be said for actually speaking with him. This issue can't be doing anybody any good at all, and this is such a good interest we share that it does seem such a pity that it cannot be resolved in a better way.

I hope that this attempt to pour "oil on troubled waters" will be helpful.

Posted by David Kilderry (Member # 549) on August 21, 2009, 05:33 AM:

I have no doubt he has some satisfied customers, but the intimidating emails to Kevin and the appalling situation with Steve is enough for me.

Sometimes people like this will only pay attention to a bigger bully and I can tell you if he had messed me around he would have found one!

I consider he be given a wide birth and in both cases listed here I would have contacted the local authorities.

David, if you are reading this, it is not too late to set both Steve and Kevin right.

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on August 21, 2009, 05:50 AM:

I think its a good idea to mention ebay sellers via the user name if you have a bad experiance.

However I`m not so sure about putting peoples actual names up here openly on the web as it were or making comment about them in that sense. Especially if personally critical of them.

I don`t think thats really a good idea.

Best Mark.

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on August 21, 2009, 04:44 PM:

What can be done is to just put the ebay seller id on here then no actual names would be mentioned.

Robert, I asked this guy 2 questions which I dont feel were unreasonable. I told him that I missed the end of the auction first time round and was curious why he had now relisted with a higher price. I also asked him for an in depth description of the film ie, was it a dupe, scratches etc. The reason for asking this was the fact that he uses the same description in all his sales (Copies and Pastes) and to me that is not a fair description of the film being sold.
He came back and said that if I put a bid on in the next 48hrs I would then get free shipping. After 24hrs I got another message from him asking why I still hadnt put a bid on and it was at this stage in the game I started to want to know who the guy was because as far as I'm concerned this is not the way to to business. His emails were all quite intimidating from the very start as if he was annoyed that the film didnt sell first time round and that I still wasnt putting a bid in this time round either. Well I did bid in the end with quite a good upper price as this is a title i wanted but as this thread progressed I decided that it might be a good idea to leave well alone. Just before I got round to retracting my bid he removed it and supposedly has stopped me from ever bidding on his items and the reason given was because I wouldnt give him details of other people who had written to me outside of the forum. I did make mention to that fact in an earlier posting. I will not pass that info on now or ever. He had obviously seen this thread (I sent him the link) and he didnt like the comments but then this was his chance to make amends and it seems that he probably did where Paul was concerned. I, to this day, didnt find out what the films condition was like. He never answered that question! He also said in one message that where film was concerned I knew nothing. I have only been in the industry since 1970 which I politely did let him know!

To top it all if I didnt reply to his messages straight away he would send more asking if "The cat got your tongue" I dont really think this is the way to go on or treat people who could have been potential buyers and then to start threatening me as he did in the end is as far as I'm concerned the last straw. In my books he showed his real colours for the guy he is and I dont deal with people like that and it would seem from some of the earlier posts others have been treated the same way especially where the deals have been private sales.
Steve's tale is exactly the same as someone else who emailed me privately. I'm glad your dealings have been good ones but then you didnt leave it to the post but picked up the goods you had paid for in person and its this point where some people have obviously been taken for a ride [Frown]

Anyway I dont think that this will be resolved between me and him and for me its now the end of it as far as I'm concerned. There are plenty more sellers on ebay that I have had dealings with and I do trust.

I am not a person who is normally rude, threatening or intimidating as others on here who know me personally will tell and likewise i dont like to be treated like that, and wont be [Mad]

For me I look at it all as having been a lucky escape. I think that if I passed some of his ebay messages back to ebay he would probably be stopped from selling but to date I havent gone that far but I will if I ever get another rude email off him.

Kev.

Posted by Greg Marshall (Member # 1268) on August 21, 2009, 07:17 PM:

Amen

Posted by Paul Spinks (Member # 573) on August 28, 2009, 04:25 PM:

Hi Everyone,
David Guest has tried to join the forum but so far he has been unsuccessful. He wishes to tell us his side of the story and has asked me to post his message. I am therefore posting this message as I received it on his behalf.

hi paul thanks for posting this on the forum i applied to join over a week ago got an email saying it would get an answer within 48 hours but never did its been over a week now so they can forget it .this is my story as follows kev emailed me re murder she said saying he had stuff on ebay if it sold he would place abid he never did so i guess his stuff did not sell ,i guess he was well peeved when he saw it agian at a higher price so he stared emailing me asking loads of questions about film which if he read it there was no nead to ask any .i describe films fully .if its got sprocket damage i say so if it splicey i say so if its badly scatched i say so if its warped i would say so also i put on my tel number i had 2 forum members email\me and ask whats colour like any fade kev stated amount of films he sells how does he get time to check them i have 5 people who cant afford to buy films so they screen them for me and give me a very detailed description so that answers your question re sigal re film had a film on ebay asked me to withdraw as he had been after this title for years so he made a offer and i did but never withdrawn any more .i did send film and sent proof of postage then all of a sudden it could be a cocked up one .any one can see this i will disply in a glass case at next film fair i go to ..re postage when you pay using paypal it takes 3 to 5 days to go into my bank also when you send a film its only insured for £30.00 so if you dont enhance the insurance thats all you get .and if i send a film costing £100 and insurance is not enahnced you make a claim to paypal and get your £100 back and i make a claim and get £30.00 .so who ever buys my films if film is more than £30.00 and they dont enhance i will not send film till they do so i give good value when i sell films i have just bought anouther 200 features which all will be checked by my merry men making a total of over !000 features also just inherited my dads collection of over 300 who passed away aged 84 who had been colecting films over 60 years how many of you used elf machines i have been suppling motor and arm belts to derans ,paul foster films and classic home cinema for over 7 years also sell the elc lamps at £7.99 each the cheapest on the market as any were else would be anything from a tenner to £15.00 so i think i play a good part in the film world going giving good value and good prints .if kev was buying film collections going of how many questions it would take 6 months to do a deal i view and pay in full for a film collection within 1 hour .kev could have rang me but maybee he had to sell something on ebay before he could buy a phone card . i hope that this is now the end of the saga and i will not be asking paul agian to post on the forum i thank paul for posting this for me keep a eye on ebay next weks or so heres a few titles holiday camp jack warner ghost train arther askey oh mr porter will hay .keep\ on collecting 16mm films a great hobby if you have the money wish you all the best . just one thing paul sorry for calling you a winger but had alot on my mind re dad as i token of thanks any feature you buy of me i will give you free postage and film will be fully insured as a good will gesture thanks

I think it is only fair that he should have the right to reply to the comments we have posted about him and that anyone who may wish to bid on any of his films which he may post on ebay can now see both sides of the story. As I posted earlier I am very happy with the feature I bought from him as well the others that I had purchased some years earlier, and I do understand his insistance on buyers obtaining the additional insurance so that he can be fully compensated for any lost films
rather than just the £30 the Royal Mail give on standard postage.

Best wishes,
Paul.

Posted by Steven Sigel (Member # 21) on August 28, 2009, 05:12 PM:

That posting is pretty incoherent, but to reiterate my position

1) I paid for the film (I believe more than 3 times his opening bid) and paid for AIR MAIL shipping with INSURANCE. The amount he asked for for shipping was in the correct range for Airmail with insurance based on what Derann, Perry's and other UK dealers have charged me.
2) He took well over a month before he even claimed to ship it
3) When he finally did claim to have shipped it, he told me that because shipping was going to cost more than he thought he had decided (on his own) to ship it surface mail without insurance.
4) The film never arrived.
5) He continually ignored my emails and did NOTHING to try to track down the print or give me a refund. His delay tactics made it too late for me to file a complaint with my credit card.

So he's got $750, and I've got NOTHING.

He finally sent me a receipt for a package which he sent to the US. Maybe it was mine, maybe it wasn't. But in any case, if a dealer decides to send something uninsured without checking with the buyer, then it's the dealer's responsibility - plain and simple. At very least, he should have offered to refund 1/2 of my money - especially when I was paying him more than 3 times his original asking price -- that way he still would have made 1.5 times his asking price. (Although an completely honorable seller would have refunded 100% of the price since it was clearly his choice to (purportedly) send it surface w/o insurance).

Posted by Greg Marshall (Member # 1268) on August 29, 2009, 02:01 PM:

Paul, I disagree with his RIGHT to be heard on this forum... which he is NOT a member, and I'm pretty glad he is not, and hopefully will never be allowed.

What happened to Steven is more than enough information to make me steer clear of this Bozo. I'm sure an attorney could make Mr. Guest see the light.

BTW, was that written in English? It made my brain hurt in trying to figure out what he was trying to say, where a sentence ended... and looks like he's created some new abbreviations for some words.. [Confused]

Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on September 07, 2009, 06:42 AM:

Is this the same listing again?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/16mm-sound-feature-film-B-W-MURDER-SHE-SAID-1961_W0QQitemZ140344468630QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_DVD_Film_TV_OtherFormats_GL?hash=item20ad2ea496&_trksid=p3286.c0.m 14

If so, it doesn't appear to make sense to relist at an even higher price when it attracted no interest at two previous lower prices.

Posted by John W. Black (Member # 1082) on September 07, 2009, 10:48 PM:

Well,as far as exposing bad ebay dealers,I'm all for that.It would be easy to set up a bad guy thread.We don't have to list the real name of the person,just their ebay handle.Pre PC days,this was done all the time in collector publications,and it was a great idea.If a person wants to dispute his bad guy status,let him and we can decide.By not listing these guys,we only hurt ourselves.

Posted by Bill Phelps (Member # 1431) on September 08, 2009, 05:17 PM:

John,

I agree. Ebay handle-name/situation.

Bill

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on September 09, 2009, 07:05 AM:

Paul, I dont know if you are a personal friend of this guy but I would like to put a few points straight.

My first contact with this guy was to just ask why the price hike between the first auction and the relisted auction. I missed the end of the first auction so was pleased to see it not sell and be relisted. He told me to bid on it in the next 48Hrs and he would do free shipping? So is this why the price was hiked as ebay had a go about his high shipping costs. When I didnt put a bid on in that first 48Hrs he started to get nasty. I can bid or not bid on an item whenever I wish but to be quite honest I still had no answer to my questions (see below) so was not going to bid until they were forthcoming....I dont think thats unreasonable! If anyone asks questions it doesnt mean they HAVE to bid.

At no point did I ever say to this guy that I was waiting for items to sell before bidding. That is something he has fabricated of his own accord. I also asked for a better description of the general condition and also asked if it was a dupe. I never got a reply to my questions. Please also bare in mind that all his descriptions are 2 or 3 liners and they give no details as far as I'm concerned as they are exactly the same on all his listings except he changes the number of splices listed. Where did he get this story about me watching all the films I sell as I certainly didnt have any discussion with him about any of my film selling activities.

To be quite honest with you this guy has completely fabricated the story in his post. I have kept all the correspondence that went between me and this guy via the ebay ask a question system so I can prove (if need be) that his story above is very far from the truth.

One last point is that he has not been stopped from joining this forum so I dont know why he couldnt join the forum. Its also quite clear that I am NOT the only one to have had problems. This guy could do with learning how to treat prospective buyers with a little respect and just answer the questions asked without being so rude. Why as a buyer should I have to pick up a telephone to ask him questions when he could give a proper detailed description on his auction like other sellers do. And to suggest that I will have to sell some film to buy a phone card [Mad]

Anyway the system is inplace on ebay for asking questions!

I am not going over all the iffs and buts again as its pointless but at the end of the day its up to other people to make up their own minds to decide if they want to deal with him or not lets face it Paul, even you had a gripe to start with!

As for "From one collector to another" what a Joke... he's a dealer and an extremely bad one at that.

Kevin. [Mad]

[ September 09, 2009, 10:07 AM: Message edited by: Kevin Faulkner ]

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on September 09, 2009, 10:15 AM:

Michael, Your right it doesnt make any sense any of this. Fisrt £99 then £110 and now relisted at £125....very strange man indeed. [Embarrassed]

Would anybody else on here buy it with out asking questions after reading that detailed description or am I the mad one?

Kev.

Posted by Paul Spinks (Member # 573) on September 09, 2009, 05:12 PM:

Hi Kev,
I have no connection whatsoever with dwg1000 other than having bought items from him on ebay. My last transaction took longer than was usual and because I had a problem with the non delivery of a film in the past, for which I had received a full refund, I expected to have to go through the whole rigmarole again. However the transaction turned out ok and David reminded me that we had traded some years ago and all had been ok. He asked me to mention this on the forum and asked me if I would allow him to reply to the comments that had been made. I felt guilty about the comments that I had made about him after my ebay transaction had turned out ok and I had learned about his bereavement, which may well have been the reason for the delay, so I felt that it could do no harm to let him tell his side of the story. I therefore copied and pasted his comments as I received them for everyone to read and to decide for themselves if they wished to deal with him. Obviously I do not condone what happened to Steven Sigel and my only advice to anyone who wishes to buy his films and pay the postage he charges is to buy through ebay and use PayPal for full buyer protection. As to why "Murder She Said" is now listed at a higher price than before when it didn't get a single bid is a mystery that only Jane Marple could solve.( Or maybe Hercules Parrot). [Big Grin]

Paul.

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on September 09, 2009, 05:42 PM:

Paul, I take it the ban on you bidding has now been lifted [Smile]

My last contact with Mr Guest asked if I was going to be at the BFCC in October as he wanted to meet me. I think we can work out what that meant. I replied that I would like to meet him too and that there were a few others who no doubt would join me. He replied that unfortunately he would now be unable to make it as his lift to Ealing had let him down....says it all. What a character [Big Grin]

I will give it a couple of days for any other comments or incase Mr Guest wants to add another reply and then close the topic.

Kev.

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