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Posted by Brian James (Member # 1056) on August 21, 2011, 04:15 PM:

Now that we are still getting over the news about closure
of Derann are we likely to see a London convention next May?

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on August 21, 2011, 05:49 PM:

If we do, it'll have to be a joint effort on the part of the assorted film sellers joining together to make it an event.

Though the assorted film sellers will happily have booths and such at the conventions, it was really due to the efforts of the Derann crew, (or am I wrong?).

Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on August 22, 2011, 02:32 AM:

quote:
Though the assorted film sellers will happily have booths and such at the conventions, it was really due to the efforts of the Derann crew, (or am I wrong?).

I was under the impression that Messrs. Wilton and Clancy had something to do with it [Smile]

Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on August 22, 2011, 04:48 AM:

London Convention is organised by Keith Wilton and John Clancw (with the help of many others).

Derann organised the Northern Film Collectors Convention held each year in Blackpool in November

Posted by Graham Sinden (Member # 431) on August 22, 2011, 05:12 PM:

The problem is can Keith still hold The BFCC at Ruislip without Derann given the cost of the premises. Are there enough other dealers to fill up those empty spaces because Keith cant run it there if he is making a loss. If Keith wants to keep it at ruislip he can always save money by leaving those 2 smaller rooms in a seperate building, and just have the main room and cinema and try to squease every dealer in there, though that may be a bit tight with the bring and buy stall.

Either that or he looks for cheaper premises or raises the ticket price to cover losing derann.

Also not having Derann might lower the attendance a bit, but it wont stop me coming.

Graham S

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on August 22, 2011, 06:30 PM:

Me neither, Graham.
I certainly hope this is not going to be the case, and that Keith will still go ahead next May, even though Derann were obviously the premiere dealers at the event. The main problem, as I see it, is that a lot of collectors just don't use the internet, and relied on Film for the Collector for all the latest news of the hobby, and without that magazine to boost their interest they might just stop going to the BFCC. Are there any other collectors mags in the UK that can step up their game and pick up the slack left by FFTC?

Posted by Mal Brake (Member # 14) on August 22, 2011, 06:41 PM:

Hi Paul,
There are two magazines that I know of.
'Flickers' which usually covers the very early years of cinema and 'Projections' which covers all aspects of home cinema, both film and digital.
Both are smaller than FFTC but are lively and good value.

Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on August 22, 2011, 07:16 PM:

I liked the Ruislip venue so I'd suggest - if possible - cutting costs by dispensing with the extra rooms and packing everything into the main dealers room, which should be feasible. Maybe one or two stalls could be in the foyer area?

I can recommend 'Projections', which does have reviews of new releases when possible. In fact an influx of film collector subscribers would be great as it would encourage more film-orientated content. But with the end of FFTC, it would be nice if 'Super 8 Film Review' (which started as a separate publication) could survive, even if it was only produced a couple of times a year.

Posted by John Clancy (Member # 49) on August 22, 2011, 10:44 PM:

I think this means the BFCC can move to October which will suit me much better. Adrian's thinking along the same lines with regards to just the one dealer room but that's all down to Keith. Unfortunately nothing can go in the foyer as that is a fire exit and rules at Ruislip are strictly enforced. This means if Keith does do another event and anyone parks on the grass, it's most likely finished.

Losing Derann is a terrible shame even though it came as no surprise. It won't affect the finances of the BFCC greatly so I don't think it will change anything in that regard. I'll speak to Keith when I'm back in the country (currently filming in California).

Posted by Joe McAllister (Member # 825) on August 23, 2011, 09:52 AM:

The 9.5mm group holds two events a year one in Chelsea, the spring fair April ish, and the convention in Harpenden in September. There is also a bi yearly Film Fun Day in Rickmansworth just North of London. Collectors concerned at the loss of events might consider supporting these meetings and picking up a few bargains.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on August 23, 2011, 10:21 AM:

Your probably right Micheal, I just assumed that DErann was at the forefront of many of these conventions/events.

If others were actually responsible for these events then they should continue on without abate!

Posted by Bill Brandenstein (Member # 892) on August 23, 2011, 03:24 PM:

John, please stop by a say hi while you're out here!

Posted by Rob Young. (Member # 131) on August 24, 2011, 06:26 AM:

Osi, have a look here at the history section...

http://www.bfcc.biz/index.html

All will become clear [Wink]

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