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Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on January 24, 2013, 01:01 PM:

Does anybody know of any super 8 collectors or super 8 forums in japan?

I would totally like to find out just what super 8 optical sound releases (and otherwise) there were in Japan. I do have a super 8 optical print of "Hooper" that was made for japan, english optical sound but japanese subitles, and i have also seen a STAR TREK 4 super 8 optical print, (in fact a screenshot for it is somewhere back on this very forum from years ago! Somewhere around 2004, coul someone find it, as it was very interesting as it had TWO optical soundtracks on it, on both edges of the film, one japanese, one english).

I wouldn't be surprised if there are full length "Godzilla" films circulating around in japan!

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on January 24, 2013, 07:04 PM:

Osi, there is big super 8 communities in Japan both for film packging and film shooting.

If you google you will see that there are a lot of equipments that is not circulating worldwide such as Sankyo OMS that is stereo and optical machine to compete with ST-1200.

Then GS1200 optical only projector or GS1200 player only projecor, etc, etc.

The only thing with Japanese, they don't speak English so they tend not to join the English speaking forum.

About your Star Trek IV picture, here we go:

This is very rare optical print with dual language. See the second otpical track between the sprockets. I don;t know what optical projector capables to read the second track.

Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on January 24, 2013, 07:25 PM:

Remember that little film and book that Doug had obtained from
Japan of one of their monster films, I know that there were
versions of these films by Osawa Shokai abridged versions of GODZILLA, RODAN,, plus some episodes of Chaplin & Keaton.
Sun Graph had 400' versions of ULTRA MAN.
Fuji Eizo System Co. Ltd handled 300' versions of films like
"LAWRENCE OF ARABIA", "HIGH NOON","FRENCH CONNECTION 1&2", "THE PROFESSIONALS" & "SOUND OF MUSIC"
All films have Opt. tracks,but cassettes of the soundtrack were available for those that didn't have sound projectors.
Quality was excellent as they were made from 35mm negatives
prices were higher than the west.No magnetic versions.
Toei Educational Films released samurai and cartoon subjects
all other dist. released folk tales or porn.

Posted by Patrick McGrath (Member # 1210) on January 24, 2013, 07:54 PM:

Interesting subject. I have found many good projectors in used electronics stores like a mint Yashica P810 Mag/Opt and my newest find, an Elmo ST180 mag/opt, along with other odd, unknown units.

Films are another story. I usually seek out vintage shops to find Godzilla/Ultraman items(or Edo period stuff), and while there are many things to see, including vinyl records, I have never seen a film.

I wonder where they are?

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on January 24, 2013, 08:26 PM:

quote:
I wonder where they are?

In the collectors' hand, for sure.

Japan was also known to release their own films on super 8 format both optical and magnetic sound.

Posted by Laksmi Breathwaite (Member # 2320) on January 24, 2013, 10:31 PM:

I have a 200 reel of RODAN from Japan and I know they have Godzilla. If you sent them a invite in Japanese they might join the forum. Fōramu ni sanka shite kudasai

Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on January 25, 2013, 08:24 AM:

That looks like my box...

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on January 25, 2013, 01:04 PM:

Thanks for finding that screenshot. Isn't that marvelous? Two optical tracks on one super 8 optical sound film, though I dare say that the fidelity and levels of the second smaller track must not have been good, though not much sounded good on those blasted headphones back then, (still not that impressive today).

Posted by Patrick McGrath (Member # 1210) on January 25, 2013, 02:54 PM:

Laksmi: Yoroushiku onegaishimasu.

Anybody else a student of Japanese here?

Posted by Pasquale DAlessio (Member # 2052) on January 25, 2013, 04:13 PM:

oregato gasamas

Posted by Laksmi Breathwaite (Member # 2320) on January 25, 2013, 11:48 PM:

Hey Joe what to you know we got the same box? Sore wa subarashii kotoda

Posted by Terry Lagler (Member # 1110) on January 26, 2013, 08:45 AM:

There must be lots of cool Japanese releases. Saved this image from Ebay years ago - how I would love to have this!

Cheers
Terry

Posted by Pasquale DAlessio (Member # 2052) on January 26, 2013, 09:01 AM:

Love that art work!

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on January 26, 2013, 09:44 AM:

If you are also vinyl collector, you will see that Japanese albums of the same english version have more impressive artwork cover. They used thicker material then English version plus the "Obi". Inside also will have a long note (linear note) about the artists, although in Kanji.

No wonder Japanese albums are more expensive with the same album released in western countries.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on January 26, 2013, 02:07 PM:

... and when it comes to films that the Japanese like far more than the rest of thwe world, they will release they're own release of it in a far better version than what we get in the US.

A good example of this was the Japanese laserdisc release of the 1989 "SlipStream" (starring Mark Hamill and directed by "TRON" Lisberger). Every DVD copy even the decent looking ones, are taken from a full frame 35MM, but the Japanese special edition laserdisc was a true letterboxed widescreen edition of the film, in english sound but with japanese subtitles and it has by far the best iamge of this film. I believe that there is a you tube video that shows off a short sequence from the japanese disc and if your a fan of this film (as I am) ou should seek it out.

Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on January 26, 2013, 02:46 PM:

Regarding vinyls,I have quite a few from all over the world,I never
noticed any difference in the sleeve quality, these are soundtrack
albums, the winners hands down have got to be the Italians, who
usually have either a large booklet filled with stills, or a full colour
sleeve with pages of colour photos.Any Japanese albums I have are
just the standard gate fold, no extras.

[ January 27, 2013, 10:38 AM: Message edited by: Hugh Thompson Scott ]

Posted by Patrick Walsh (Member # 637) on January 26, 2013, 11:29 PM:

I would presume there is a good 8mm following in Japan, they did make most of the projectors we use today [Wink]

Their 35mm machines they make are amazing quality.

Posted by Patrick McGrath (Member # 1210) on January 27, 2013, 01:59 AM:

Not to be the PC police here
but can we refrain from using the term jap?
It is widely recognized as derogatory and being married
to a Japanese woman means I must protest.

Posted by Hugh Thompson Scott (Member # 2922) on January 27, 2013, 10:39 AM:

No offence intended Patrick,post has been amended.

Posted by Patrick McGrath (Member # 1210) on January 27, 2013, 03:36 PM:

Thank you, Hugh.

Posted by Christian Bjorgen (Member # 1780) on January 27, 2013, 05:33 PM:

I agree with the others on terms of artwork here, I collect vinyls and often end up purchasing Japanese releases on eBay, most recently a Japanese 180g re-print of the Beatles "Please Please Me", which came in a gatefold version with extra images, lyrics and info.

Posted by Joerg Polzfusz (Member # 602) on January 28, 2013, 03:32 AM:

Hi,

you can see some Japanese releases here:
http://www.geocities.jp/maru_ba99/page013.html
(Fujifilm also released films on Super8 in Japan, e.g. Star Wars (as a three-reeler))

The Japanese are mainly using "Yahoo Auctions" instead of eBay. Here's the link to the film-device-section (with a few films in it - there's most likely a separate section for the films):
[URL=http://category.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/list/8%E3%83%9F%E3%83%AA-%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%83%AB%E3%83%A0%E3%82%AB%E3%83%A1%E3%83%A9-%E3%82%AB%E3%83%A1%E3%83%A9-%E5%85%89%E5%AD%A6%E6 %A9%9F%E5%99%A8-%E5%AE%B6%E9%9B%BB-AV-%E3%82%AB%E3%83%A1%E3%83%A9/2084041672/?fr=auc-prop&tab_ex=commerce&p=8%E3%83%9F%E3%83%AA]Yahoo[/URL]

Jörg

Posted by Guy Taylor, Jr. (Member # 786) on January 28, 2013, 08:56 AM:

I wonder how the color looks on these films made in Japan. They are likely Fuji.

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on January 28, 2013, 09:38 PM:

They are fading to red like other films. Fuji will also fade against purplish.

Posted by Alan Rik (Member # 73) on January 28, 2013, 10:29 PM:

Back in the day when i use to collect albums I too have noticed the Japanese pressings had higher quality offerings. My brother use to go to Japan and buy old Chicago albums and the Japanese versions had posters inside, lyric sheets, Obi Strip, and the cardboard used was thicker. I asked him why he spent so much money on the albums and he showed me the US version. No poster. No Lyrics. And the colors on the album cover didn't look as rich. He also said the Japanese pressings sounded better.
Interesting post about Japanese Vinyl Pressings here:
http://www.vinylengine.com/turntable_forum/viewtopic.php?t=25970
When I went to Hokkaido Japan I went looking to see if there was anything Super 8 related.The only thing I found was an ad in a magazine with the male model who was holding up a Fujica Single 8 camera. I think it was for Gin?
I would love to own Ultraman in Super 8!

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