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Posted by Steven J Kirk (Member # 1135) on May 16, 2015, 08:54 AM:

No, not that kind of French-Made, this is the guy who is busy making the new mute trailers. Does anyone know if he is a member?:

http://www.ebay.fr/sch/hauntedhill45/m.html?item=281693474793&hash=item41963d4fe9&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_71&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

Interesting selection.

Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on May 16, 2015, 11:12 AM:

Steven, I don't think the man to whom you're refering is a member of this forum as these trailers were quoted in the super 8 section (in the topic : A new Super 8 films company ?) and he didn't comment.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on May 16, 2015, 01:39 PM:

My! He's been a busy one, and at those prices, (but being that his prices haven't went down, he must be selling them!).

I potentially found one of my theories correct. Alongside one of his boxes, you see the container that holds the film. It happens to be one of those film containers that home movies would be processed and sent to the consumer way back in the day. For those following this whole thing, I had proposed that this fellow, whoever he is, is using old home movie footage to make these trailers.

Posted by Fabrizio Mosca (Member # 142) on May 17, 2015, 01:03 AM:

I think that, due to the price, he's using new stock. Furthermore, if it were old film stock he would have problems in developing, as the older stocks were either Kodachrome or reversal to be developed with EM26 (and I don't think he would be able to ensure quality or able to have them processed correctly).

BTW, have you noticed that the image is always the same and only the film picture changes? If you zoom in, you may notice that they are two different images put together.
In addition, the spool is empty...

Posted by Dave Groves (Member # 4685) on May 17, 2015, 06:33 AM:

I find this a bit odd. A modern trailer without sound!!! There must still be striping facilities available for folk like Classic Home Cinema to get their new realeases done. Also, are there multiple copies for sale or are these all one offs? Is he doing what Marco is doing or is someone else producing them for him. Has anyone actually bought one (at this price) and what are they like?
Lots of questions needing answers.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on May 17, 2015, 06:36 AM:

I think all striping nowadays in Europe tends to be done by Andec in Germany. I think Phil at Classic has all new releases striped there. There is however a very large backlog I believe and if you were to send your own private prints there to be striped, I believe from another forum member, you are in for a long wait David.

Posted by Bill Brandenstein (Member # 892) on May 19, 2015, 01:36 PM:

For 100 bucks a pop! Wow! He's probably reduced a 35mm trailer to a Super 8 neg somehow and has a lab printing them.

Or he's shooting reversal film using a 35mm viewer! Hey, any of us could do that!

Posted by Lee Mannering (Member # 728) on May 20, 2015, 03:40 AM:

Hats off to the chap for having a go.

When I was somewhat younger I used to produce my own short prints at home which is simple enough and a little surprising more don't have a go as follows.

I made up a wooden platform for the single frame super 8 camera and used close up lenses with the camera pointing down to a home made light box for constant lighting. I then glued two rulers each side of a length of 35mm film and used several screws to make registration pins for the perforations.

In use..
I locked the cameras aperture on a moderately exposed frame of 35mm film then filmed single frame with the super 8 camera moving the 35mm film along a frame at a time. It was a lengthy process but the results onto K40 were excellent and of course you could produce exactly what you wanted onto 8mm also home striping.

It was fun to have one off unique clips in my shows and I still have these K40 sequences along with the perfect colour.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on May 20, 2015, 04:00 AM:

Sounds fantastic Lee! I wish we still had all the facilities available to us NOW to be able to have a go at similar stuff.

I would love to try my hand at a little animation on film but wouldn't even bother to begin now on film due to the total lack of support of pre striped stock sadly.

Posted by Steven J Kirk (Member # 1135) on May 20, 2015, 08:32 PM:

FFR still does striping but seems to prefer the stock of ORWO or AGFA. ( Though they also list other acetate stocks.) So I guess use that and they do say they will do two track: main and balance.

http://www.ffr-film.de/index.php?page=bespurung

Posted by Lee Mannering (Member # 728) on May 21, 2015, 05:54 AM:

It sure took some time Andrew I can tell you with over 2000 individual frames a go but quite a thrill to produce your own Super 8 prints at the time.

I also rigged up a 9.5mm contact printer a couple of years ago to copy 50ft runs which worked really well, sadly the local film supplies have now dried up but the results were cracking.

All the fun you can have with film and under the stairs in the dark [Smile]

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on May 21, 2015, 06:04 AM:

Still searching for a copy of "Cinema in Miniature". I hope to find one one day and must have been a tremendous thrill to see a film you produced yourself released by Derann to the public!

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