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Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on July 19, 2015, 12:27 PM:

I have been trying out projected streaming video from YouTube, as I am finding that there are many great British films uploaded on YouTube which Netflix and others just do not have. I recently watched Hell Drivers and a few others via YouTube and enjoyed them very much, but I have concluded that the quality is really crappy compared with DVD, and it doesn't even come anywhere near blu ray. I am surprised that streaming video is so popular. I guess it's Ok for a computer monitor or small flat panel TV perhaps, but essentially useless for large screen home cinema projection.

Posted by Mathew James (Member # 4581) on July 19, 2015, 12:49 PM:

Hi Paul,
You are correct...but here are some things to remember....

Beta Max was much better in quality that VHS, yet it got the heave-ho. Why?
Many technologes phase out because something more 'suitable' surfaces, even when quality isn't yet there.
I see streaming in this way. The internet was never imagined to be used to such a degree. We all remember how the internet first appeared in our own environments, and then quickly realized that life forever, as we knew it, had again changed.
FLV, or flash based video formats were created to allow user to satisfy a growing trend, that is, online streaming...yet quality and bandwidth issues had never yet been thought out. Kinda reminds me of our QEW into Toronto at the Gardiner expressway. Such a massive bottleneck that is unsolvable currently...
To satisfy the expansion of internet technologies, like streaming, people started creating codeces and such to compress video so that we could watch movies on a flooded and saturated internet. I think the only solution will be to allow faster technologies (fibre optics etc) to take over, and CHEAPER than they are currently, so the bandwidth/traffic issues will subside and we can view in full HD.
To be honest, I never have an issue because i always buy old technogies and pretend they are new. That is, I recently upgraded our older CRT TV for a bigger CRT. While everone blows there brains out on plasma and such...I am going upgrade to a new technology(i say sarcastically [Smile]

) myself soon...a SMART LED TV [Smile]

It will allow me to stream youtube and such to my TV and will be a great improvement.
My LAurel and Hardy Essential Collection just came in so this will be great for enjoying these oldies in better quality!
Cheers,
Matt

Posted by Vidar Olavesen (Member # 3354) on July 19, 2015, 01:59 PM:

Remember that there is a quality setting in Youtube ... It says something like 480p or something. Sometimes it's possible to do higher resolutions. But still, for me, it's too crappy. Framerate is stuttering a bit and it's not film

Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on July 19, 2015, 02:36 PM:

It's always fascinating to see that the tv sets manufacturers are improving so much the quality and the size of their screens to find out that at the end people are ready to Watch things on small mobile phone or computers screens.

Posted by Joe Taffis (Member # 4) on July 19, 2015, 02:54 PM:

Hi Paul,
Not all streaming options are that bad. I stream movies with my BenQ 1070 from Amazon and VUDU on my 8' screen that are HD 1080p, and the quality is excellent. Of course, they are not free like YouTube...

Posted by John Hourigan (Member # 111) on July 19, 2015, 03:04 PM:

Agree, Joe -- I've achieved outstanding results streaming movies in my home cinema. Another great way to have access to a plethora of movies to project onto an eight-foot screen!

Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on July 19, 2015, 03:05 PM:

Streaming on NetFlix is excellent...very high quality. I also stream my own movies via my Plex server https://plex.tv/ Quality via Plex depending on internet connection can at times have dropped frames and buffering...but very good overall and there is the advantage to stream to my TV via Chromecast.

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on July 19, 2015, 03:14 PM:

YouTube is definitely about quantity more than quality.

That's what I really like about it: any TV commercial from when I was 10 years old that all of a sudden I can't get out of my head has a decent chance of being available on there.

-see it for real a few times and then they usually leave me alone!

(Also works for songs stuck in your head...with the possible exception of "It's a small world, after all!")

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on July 19, 2015, 07:18 PM:

Youtube (owned by google) is the best streaming site I have found. Even with a dial up internet connection (as lowest as 360kb/sec) it gives a stable video with much less buffering compared to others free web streaming. Even dailymotion.com, the closest youtube's competitor has not reached this standard yet.

What you feel Paul just like a phenomenon of bullet train that has been available since 1960s but only few countries have it. We still enjoy the diesel loco with its max speed 150km/hour. When we are asked why not using this train, the answer is between money, complicated technology, and the most repeatble answer "I am still ok with this lower technology...I am not in rush anyway"

Back to the youtube things, please read this info:

http://youtube-global.blogspot.com/2010/07/whats-bigger-than-1080p-4k-video-comes.ht ml?m=1

Youtube has reached 4k quality even much way better than any Bluray we have now. The today digital cinema is 4k, yet not all cinemas are equiped with this type of projector due to the price.

For this 4k quality we need a special computer, optical connection, ssuper bandwidth, etc which those are lying on the high cost.

But I believe in the next 10 years some the above problems may have been solved so people can start enjoying this service.

Cheers,

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