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Posted by Mathew James (Member # 4581) on July 29, 2015, 01:06 PM:

Hi All,
My blackhawk film boxes are for the most part in excellent shape. Yes, I have a handful that are slightly tattered, but most have held up pretty well- lucky purchases i guess....
Anyways, I got one film in the mail recently that, well, the film was okay, but the box was mouldy...and cleaning it off basically rendered it useless....and it got me thinking....
The graphics on these boxes would be a cinch to scan at high res, and thus....could we not not get these blank boxes printed from somewhere? I can't see how this could be so hard. Someone must have done something all ready here?
There are a couple size boxes, but we should be able to make them all up somewhere.
Anyone else have any thoughts?
Cheers,
Matt
PS:I am not talking about selling these as that would be a licensing infringement...but we should be able to make our own replacement copies IDENTICAL to the originals, no?
PSS: Although i mention blackhawk...this could be done for any cardboard film box, once scanned and sized...

Posted by Paul Suchy (Member # 80) on July 30, 2015, 03:42 PM:

I'm not very computer savvy, but if you scanned the image onto one of those prepasted large label sheets, you could make a 400" reel box by pasting it onto a used reel to reel tape box. Would that work?

Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on July 30, 2015, 03:59 PM:

It's a nice thought, still I'm hesitant about creating a box that isn't a genuine Blackhawk, no matter what the condition is - I'm very loyal to the fold, though I do have a repro box someone made for me - Odd thing, Polar Lights accomplished a similar manufacture with teh Aurora Model boxes - Darn Near, yes, but...Imagine of course, this could be done for Castle, Ken or any earlier box variation - Well, that's my nickel on it, Shorty

Posted by Paul Suchy (Member # 80) on July 30, 2015, 05:05 PM:

I would like to be able to replicate the Ken clamshell cases that are rotting away; it would be nice to place the old paper label into a fresh new clamshell box (I know this is killing you, Shorty).

Posted by Mathew James (Member # 4581) on July 30, 2015, 11:50 PM:

I agree Shorty. I would only do this for the rotting cases, which I don't want near the good ones [Smile]

Interestingly, another thread was started here by Andrew: http://8mmforum.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=002697 with good information in regards to some boxes and some sources.
I noticed as well that there are some other places where 'jewelry boxes' or 'gift boxes', 'chocolate boxes' may be custom made...many of which could potentially work.
I am just thinking out loud, but I agree Paul, a scan of the image would be ideal, on a label sheet...and I wonder in this day and age if someone would even go the extra step of printing our scanned image right on a box...glossy [Smile]

This company for example prints chocolate boxes, custom sizes, and perhaps even the artwork http://soopak.com/chocolate-box.html
Would be neat.
Cheers,
Matt

Posted by Paul Suchy (Member # 80) on July 31, 2015, 07:39 AM:

You could probably find someone to make up a custom box, but what would that end up costing? Since so many Black hawk boxes are identical, you'd probably be better off to look for a Black hawk box that already exists. I'm sure people have chewed up prints in a good box, so you would have the genuine box and it would probably still cost less than a fake.

Posted by Mathew James (Member # 4581) on July 31, 2015, 09:08 AM:

That makes good sense Paul. I do see boxes(normally for other manufacturers) for sale from time to time on ebay....
I think this may be the best route for now.....
One day however, these boxes will become rarer, and then the need may arise more fully...
Cheers,
Matt

Posted by Paul Suchy (Member # 80) on July 31, 2015, 09:49 AM:

It's too bad the public libraries pasted stickers and labels all over their film boxes, because most library prints were abused by people and the prints are damaged. Certain films show up at garage sales, and the ones I have seen had decent boxes, but the prints are all chewed up. I pointed this out to a garage sale seller once, and she said, "how about 10 cents each?"

Posted by Steve Carter (Member # 4821) on August 17, 2015, 08:52 AM:

You could try these...
8x8 Box 600ft

Posted by Mathew James (Member # 4581) on August 17, 2015, 10:34 AM:

Nice find Steve! Those would work.
It is difficult sometimes to find perfectly square. I have found many 'custom' places make them somewhat rectangular rather than square, so these are pretty good!

My original thought was to perhaps take a sample of each product, ie. one box from every size(blackhawk one reeler, two reeler, 4, 5 reel boxes, etc... and scan the blackhawk image by destroying(oops, that may be a bad word [Smile]

) a good box lid by flatting it completely on a scanner and doing a super high res image(300-600 dpi), then we would have that image. Then one could get almost any sticker/label place to make a new label and then stick them on said box. I am sure the boxes must be able to be found in any colour, like the black or green in gloss....
I've seen some other threads here now that i didn't see earlier where some people have tried similar here...
Cheers,
Matt

Posted by Steve Carter (Member # 4821) on August 17, 2015, 10:42 AM:

Matt, I also found black, gold and white in 7x7, 6x6 and so on, they come flat so they can be printed on...

Posted by Paul Browning (Member # 2715) on August 17, 2015, 04:56 PM:

Good find that steve, not bad prices for those either, they look perfect for film reels.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on August 17, 2015, 05:38 PM:

Well done Steve, superb find for us all! [Wink]

Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on August 18, 2015, 02:28 PM:

Bags Unlimited carries a line of film-related products, including 200', 400' and 600' white boxes - Found a nice source - Shorty

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