8mm Forum: 35mm A Thing Of Beauty....

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Posted by Kevin Clark (Member # 211) on September 17, 2015, 06:30 AM:

On sale on Ebay UK at the moment is this cracker:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/35mm-Portable-6000ft-1600W-Xenon-Stereo-Cine-Film-Projector-123-Hours-Use-ONLY-/111770669447

I know the seller as he supplied my superb Spectra but this one is the ultimate portable(ish) 35mm projector I know of.

Time to draw down the pension pot early, empty all available piggy banks and grab it if you can as I am sure a better one doesn't exist.

Kevin

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on September 17, 2015, 06:34 AM:

What a beautiful looking professional machine this is!
Can it be used on single phase Kevin?
Hope you win the lottery this week Kevin! [Wink]

Posted by Kevin Clark (Member # 211) on September 17, 2015, 06:56 AM:

I had enough trouble smuggling in the Spectra Andrew so I won't chance the wrath of my lovely wife by bringing this one home!

It is our wedding anniversary today though (32 years - I must be doing something right) so I might suggest it as a special present.....no perhaps not.

It can simply be plugged into your usual home mains supply, the lamp output is massive 1600w xenon but adjustable down to levels suitable for home screen sizes. My Eiki 4000p has a 500w xenon that is bright enough on its lowest setting so Noel's machine is capable of cinema level illumination.

Kevin

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on September 17, 2015, 07:08 AM:

Happy anniversary pal and many congratulations!
Play your cards right tonight over a nice Chateaubriand complemented with a bottle of chateau neuf du pape.. and you just never know your luck Kevin.

It's the best day for chancing your arm anyhow Kevin!

Best of luck with it all buddy and hope you both have a great day.

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on September 17, 2015, 09:56 AM:

It's a great pity that its spools can only support an hours worth of film. I have seen other makes of projector of a similar size that can accommodate spools of 15,000ft.
Portable? Well, just about!
And it need an amplifier, or did I miss it somewhere? A panel socket says "Out Speaker".

Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on September 17, 2015, 10:21 AM:

There seems to be a blanking plug in where the "0ut speaker" sign is so I assume this is an option which has not been fitted to this example of the machine.

I would call it transportable rather than portable.

Posted by Kevin Clark (Member # 211) on September 17, 2015, 10:51 AM:

Let's put it this way - if you planned to regularly set it up then dismantle and move it around you could save a fortune per year on Gym membership.

I'm surprised you didn't mention it being a Xenon lamp as another possible off-putting factor as well Maurice as you usually steer clear of them yourself.

Still the best example I've seen out there for a long time and from a trusted highly technically skilled seller.

Andrew no matter what treats I put on the table tonight this projector is not going to get past security here - thank you for your kind congrats by the way.

Kevin

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on September 17, 2015, 02:35 PM:

Xenon lamps are difficult to find now for sub-standard projectors but there is no problem for those used in 35mm projectors.
The limited spool size seems to indicate that this Italian projector was not designed to show cinema features.

Posted by Kevin Clark (Member # 211) on September 18, 2015, 02:39 AM:

No problem finding Xenon lamps for as you put it 'sub-standard' projectors Maurice and all very affordable - my spares for Elflite / Eikis (350w & 550w) were around £100 each and new ones from Italy are available for the Elmo GS1200 Xenon for around £200 each. Giving up to 1000 hours of correctly balanced bright illumination and no more expensive than tungsten halogen lamps per hour of usage.

I was fortunate at the recent BFCC to buy a box of lamps for my GS1200 Xenon for £25 each - all genuine Toshibas and all tested perfect. Almost a lifetime supply really.

Back to 35mm - you mention you have seen 35mm trans-portables with 12000ft capacity - if you have more details and pictures please share them here.

Kevin

Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on September 18, 2015, 03:45 AM:

Looks like a very nice projector [Cool]

Price looks good to.. surprised it has hardly been used. 6000ft reels is fine feature wise...give you time for a intermission [Wink]

most "polyester" films will fit on two reels...

a bargain for someone [Cool]

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on September 18, 2015, 04:05 AM:

I stand corrected about the availability of xenon lamps for sub-standard projectors. I thought they were difficult now to source.
When I referred to a similar size projector with 15,000ft spool capacity (enough for a feature) I was not saying that it was trans-portable. The Cinemeccanica I saw was in a static installation.

Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on September 18, 2015, 04:19 AM:

I still have some of those Osram 1600Watt lamps, but the XL ie "Extreme Life"...those XL lamps will give you at least 3500 hours... more if you wanted....they are expensive though.

a lot of 35mm viewing....that's for sure. [Cool]

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on September 18, 2015, 04:29 AM:

I reckon Kevin got the deal of the century there with those Toshiba Xenon lamps!!! Just incredible.

Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on September 18, 2015, 04:13 PM:

Just thinking [Roll Eyes]

If anyone does buy it for home use "only" it would be best to convert it to a 36volt 300/400watt lamp..."easy to to" Those 1600 Xenon watt lamps don't like to operate under 50amps "ie on the amp meter" in fact its not recommended.

Also for home use it does take around 12/13amps to run it from the mains [Wink]

...it will gobble up your electricity [Smile]

Nice projector though...someone here should buy it [Wink]

Posted by Jean-Marc Toussaint (Member # 270) on September 18, 2015, 06:12 PM:

Some Ushio lamps do, but not all. If you want lower light througghput, best is to run the rectifier at 45A and find the correct 1Kw bulb that can fit into this lamphouse.

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