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Posted by Mark Mander (Member # 340) on February 14, 2016, 03:20 AM:

Just a thread that maybe hasn't been done on here before specifically for films that you think should or shouldn't have been re made. The Dad's Army film thread got me thinking about the mixed reviews and that some liked it and are glad it's been brought back into the lime light whereas others think it should have been left alone.

My choice of film would be the 2003 Italian Job which wasn't as good as the 1969 version, i thought at the time it shouldn't be done!! What do you guys think? Mark.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on February 14, 2016, 03:47 AM:

I even liked the later remake of this film Mark, but it's true to say the first is an absolute classic and cannot be superseded by anything any better made later.

I'd have loved to see this film on S8 in Lpp. If only!

I think there are many examples of this, and in general, I too, am not a fan of remakes or films that go on to have 4 and 5 sequels.

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on February 14, 2016, 04:02 AM:

I`m hoping they keep thier hands off Zulu and Chitty.

Not the same as not a musical but polanski`s Oliver was very good.

Total Recall and Judge Dredd spring to mind as two where the origionals were much better.

Oh and hope to goodness Predator and First Blood stay clean. Funny the same two actors there twice.

Sleuth was one where the oigional, was magic but not so the remake.

The Sherlock Holmes with Robert and Jude were fantastic mind.

Best Mark.

Oh and Robocop, but on its own the remake was OK sort off. But its a very tough comparrison with the 87 Verhoven.

Posted by Bill Phelps (Member # 1431) on February 14, 2016, 04:50 AM:

Remakes are done because good stories just get re-told for new generations. There are many films that have been re-made that I think they should have let the original stand alone. One that comes to mind is PSYCHO....the remake is a shot for shot re-do....more of an experiment...Gus should have made it his own instead of a straight copy.

Bill [Smile]

Posted by Dave Groves (Member # 4685) on February 14, 2016, 06:23 AM:

The remake of 'War of the Worlds' did absolutely nothing for me. The original with it's tantalizing music was terrific.

Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on February 14, 2016, 09:13 AM:

Where do I start...

Posted by Ken Finch (Member # 2768) on February 14, 2016, 09:32 AM:

I have very mixed feelings about re makes. Some I think have been an improvement, others poorer than the original. I much prefer the original 1940s version of "Great expectations", the 1935 version of "Scrooge"/ Christmas Carol". On the other hand I thought the recent version of "True Grit" was better than the John Wayne version. I like many John Wayne films and thought the early 1937 "Stagecoach" was better than the later version with Bing Crosby despite the fact that because my mother was an ardent fan of Crosby, I have probably seen every film he appeared in! I even copied his voice style as a youngster and knew all the words of his records!! Many of the newer versions of old films have the advantage of improved technology but that does not necessarily mean they are better. What I do find annoying is the poor diction and dialogue quality in many modern productions and with a few exceptions the habit of repetition of what has been a popular production using the same characters, like another episode of a soap opera. e.g. "Shrek" and other CGI films and "Pirates of the Caribbean". Maybe its because I am getting old!! Ken Finch.
[Wink]

Posted by Pasquale DAlessio (Member # 2052) on February 14, 2016, 09:49 AM:

I think they should make a film about the remakes! [Big Grin]

Them in a few years they can remake it! [Eek!]

Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on February 14, 2016, 01:28 PM:

THE HAUNTING and THE HOUSE ON HAUNTED HILL.
Both remade pretty hideously. :-)

Posted by Paul Browning (Member # 2715) on February 14, 2016, 01:41 PM:

Michael, how could they make "House on haunted hill" without Vincent price ??, no way man, the Italian job another shambles made by the film companies with more money than sense. Both in my opinion should have made it to super 8, damn shame they never did. My nomination would be The day the earth stood still, with Keanu Reeve, who's acting is more wooden than arnie's and more stiffer than the robot in the film, what a load of CGI clap trap.

Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on February 14, 2016, 02:50 PM:

Now just got an idea for a remake:

Thunderbirds starring Keanu Reeve.

Watching most films modern ones they all seem the same to me.

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on February 14, 2016, 06:29 PM:

Oh Lordy I had forgotten ( thankfully ) about the Day The Earth Stood Still remake sort of. Absolutely dire, and the origional still stands up against anything and everything 65 years later.

My youngest absolutely loves it. The proper one that is.

The Omen remake was pretty poor compared to the Superb Origional, Like Halloween I suppose too.

And the list goes On. Great thread.

Best Mark.

PS isn`t there a Ben Hur remake in the offing !!! ooerr!!!

Posted by Bill Phelps (Member # 1431) on February 14, 2016, 08:53 PM:

Yeah I hate to pile on but the remake of Day the Earth Stood Still was really bad....I was hoping it would be good but it was really bad. I wonder if anyone has just seen the new one and not the original and liked the new one?

Bill [Smile]

Posted by Ty Reynolds (Member # 5117) on February 14, 2016, 08:57 PM:

Are you referring to the original Ben Hur, or the remake with Chuck Heston?

Posted by Joe Caruso (Member # 11) on February 16, 2016, 10:08 AM:

(They) are working on yet another one , as we type - When an artist indelibly places their stamp on a role or project, isn't it difficult to see anyone else even tamper with the idea? While I agree to a degree, we cannot be blinded by our desires - Other technicians and performers have THEIR particular sway on a variation, so must be applauded for that very reason

Posted by Evan Samaras (Member # 5070) on February 16, 2016, 10:52 AM:

There are plenty, Shorty said it best, where do I start!

First one that springs to mind for me is: Nightmare on Elm Street

his digital face looks like bacon- I refuse to watch it

[ February 16, 2016, 12:09 PM: Message edited by: Evan Samaras ]

Posted by Mark Mander (Member # 340) on February 16, 2016, 11:38 AM:

True Grit also springs to mind, how could you follow John Wayne in one of his most famous films, one that shouldn't have been made again, the 2010 version although a good cast just couldn't compete.

Posted by Barry Attwood (Member # 100) on February 16, 2016, 11:48 PM:

The remake of John Carpenter's classic "The Fog" is one of the all time worse remakes possible, and Carpenter even let his name go on the credits as an executive producer, he must have been short of a few Dollars (why else have a credit on this piece of s---!).

Posted by Brian Stearns (Member # 3792) on February 17, 2016, 12:50 AM:

The Day The Earth Stood Still starring Keanu Reeve,saw this in a plane going to japan and it was awful

Miracle on 34th Street

Karate Kid

Star Trek Into The darkness (ripoff of Wrath of Khan)

Posted by Tim Hartnell (Member # 4274) on February 17, 2016, 06:26 PM:

They should have never done the 2002 remake of my favourite film which is George Pals 1960 The Time Machine.I Love everything about it from the victorian setting right through to the future of mankind an absolute classic film.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on February 17, 2016, 06:38 PM:

On this particular one, from my own personal point of view, i beg to differ.

I actually think both these films are fabulous.

George Pal and his original is an absolute classic, but I did enjoy the "modern" remake as a one off in this case.

Posted by Pasquale DAlessio (Member # 2052) on February 17, 2016, 07:16 PM:

I had an exact replica of the original "Time Machine" but I was playing with it one day and when I turned it on it disappeared. [Eek!]

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on February 17, 2016, 08:09 PM:

Actually I think I saw that...

-but I was very young then! [Wink]

Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on February 18, 2016, 02:04 AM:

Funny you should mention a "Time Machine" I was thinking of building one, using a spare platter deck for the bit that goes round at the back, even got a motor and gearbox, weld up a frame attach an old movie seat "got one of those" complete with cup holder. Attach a few bits and bobs on the front, and we are away [Roll Eyes]

Posted by Tim Hartnell (Member # 4274) on February 18, 2016, 11:27 AM:

I bet you also lost a cigar Pasquale

Here's my little replica [Smile]

Posted by Paul Browning (Member # 2715) on February 18, 2016, 12:02 PM:

The Producer's is also another remake hash. The original cast, Zero Mostel, gene wilder, and that little old lady, ula the dancing secretary, and the cast of Springtime for Hitler. Just casting genius by Mel Brooke, getting people to look like them in a remake, is a non starter, you only compare them, and there is no comparison.

Posted by Paul Spinks (Member # 573) on February 18, 2016, 12:24 PM:

The Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick film "The Producers" was not a remake of the original film but a film version of the wonderful musical show Mel Brooks made which he based on his film. It's a fantastic film in its own right, with great songs and stellar performances from the excellent cast and does not intend to replace the earlier and equally excellent film with Gene Wilder and Zero Mostel. For anyone who hasn't seen it I can really recommend it for any lovers of film musicals.

Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on February 18, 2016, 01:08 PM:

Psycho has already been mentioned and I agree with Bill Phelps...it was a failed experiment. However, two other poor remakes come to mind. The first is the The Goodbye Girl (2004) with Jeff Daniels and Patrica Heaton which in no way could match the energy and charisma of Richard Dryfuss and Masha Mason from the original The Goodbye Girl (1977).

Next is the movie Love Affair (1994) with Warren Beatty and Annette Benning... this movie was a remake of An Affair to Remember (1957) ...which actually was a remake of Love Affair (1939). The 1939 version was good at the time, however the 1957 Cary Grant and Debra Kerr version will always be the remembered classic. The Warren Beatty version was a sleeper and lacked any of the original humor or emotional connection between the characters.

Posted by Rob Young. (Member # 131) on February 18, 2016, 02:59 PM:

"Psycho" the Remake...the only film I've ever walked out of a theatre from.

Shot by shot copy by Gus Van Sant, but then Vince Vaughn doing the dirty.

A total waste of time and talent; what the **** were they thinking?

Not a homage, a plagiarism.

Not a re-invention, a total over-stated dumb down.

If I had a 35mm print I'd burn it.

Shame on them all. [Big Grin]

Hope it paid their tax bills.

Posted by Bill Phelps (Member # 1431) on February 18, 2016, 03:14 PM:

The only part of the Pyscho remake I thought was clever was when Gus did his cameo at the same place as the original he was outside the bank and there is a Hitch lookalike pointing his finger at him as if to say......naughty boy!

Bill [Smile]

Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on February 18, 2016, 05:41 PM:

That remake was colour, wasn't it? Another excuse to downgrade from the original.
I saw the end of "The Mechanic" remake, it didn't look like an improvement.

Posted by Pasquale DAlessio (Member # 2052) on February 18, 2016, 05:48 PM:

Tim............

That's the one I lost! [Eek!]

So that's where it ended up? [Confused]

Posted by David Michael Leugers (Member # 166) on February 18, 2016, 11:34 PM:

Nothing so absurd as to remake a film unless there can be a major improvement upon the original. So few ever do. The Maltese Falcon is one exception where the remake became the classic.

Posted by Brian Stearns (Member # 3792) on February 19, 2016, 11:52 PM:

Alan Young has your lost Time Machine,Pasq

with Mr. Ed

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