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Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on December 23, 2017, 10:57 AM:

I thought i would update this thread for the year 2018

As the year draws to a close i thought i would share with you all my buys of 2017,
It's been a lot more than i should have bought but you only live once and with a few things going on at my end next year may not be too good a year, however, hopefully Blackpool will be a nice bit of escape from all of the bad things that are going on.
So for bye bye 2017, and here are my cine additions for the year
Abbot & Costello meet the Mummy
George Formby. Solo Performance
Percy's Progress
Poltergeist
Raise the titanic Scope
Scrooge A Christmas Carol
Silver Dream Racer
Spare a copper, George Formby.
The Day of the Triffids, 3 very good exceprts
Tom & Jerry His mouse Friday
Tom & Jerry, Jerry & the Lion
Squirm
This is it Scope trailer
Viva Las Vegas
A Bridge Too Far Trailer scope
A View to a Kill trailer
An officer & a Gentleman trailer scope
Castaway trailer
Spider man trailer
Men in Black 2 trailer
Mobile Phone spoof
Singing in the rain long trailer
The Jazz Singer trailer
Star Wars Revenge of the sith trailer scope
The Alamo, trailer scope.

Two more which havnt arrived yet so I cant say they are additions until they are here.
Pulp Fiction trailer
Three on a couch.

And on 16mm
Cross of Iron
Kidnapped, Scope
Minder. TV episode, waiting for Goddard
The Professionals, when the heat cools off
Blue Thunder
Waterloo (now for sale)
Waterloo Scope
Hannie Caulder
Bugles in the Afternoon,
Dances with Wolves
Witness.
I wish you all a happy Christmas, (again ) and an even better new year for 2018. [Wink]

[ December 29, 2018, 01:44 PM: Message edited by: Tom Photiou ]

Posted by Larry Arpin (Member # 744) on December 24, 2017, 12:50 AM:

Didn't buy much this year. Seems prices are going higher than I want to pay.

But here is my list:

super 8mm:
Dumbo flying elephant(excellent color)
Once Upon a Dream(excellent color)
True Lies pt 1
Yankee Doodle Mouse(Film Office version which is complete, Walton although has better color is edited)

16mm:
JASON AND THE ARGONAUTS
THE EASY WAY (I've always know it as ROOM FOR ONE MORE)

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on December 24, 2017, 02:05 AM:

Larry, that would normally be the amount we buy, our purchases were made with sales of other items with the exception of a few 16mm films, we will be selling a few bits and pieces from January so we can hopefully go to Blackpool next year.
I try to make the hobby 80%ish self funding.
I agree with you 100% that prices are now becoming a bit ridiculous, seeing titles coming up,(even on the forums) for 600 is just loonacy in my opinion, BUT, unfortunately as time goes on this may become the norm.
It is one of the reasons i am looking toward 16mm, much more bang for your your dosh and many more titles.
i still think in some time that this pricing bubble will burst.
Once the projectors themselves begin to get scarce then who will want to pay the kind of sums for films with nothing to show them on?
[Wink]

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on December 24, 2017, 02:35 AM:

quote:
Once the projectors themselves begin to get scarce.....

Not only the projectors.
We will need service engineers to keep the ones we've got still running.
With the current retirement of Bill Parsons, even the engineers are getting thin on the ground.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on December 24, 2017, 02:43 AM:

Your absolutely right Maurice,
in fact this will speed up the demise of the projectors with the exception of those collectors who can carry out there own repairs, while i can do the very basics i a would never be able to attempt a fraction of what Bill has done for us in the past.

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on December 24, 2017, 04:54 AM:

I thought I noticed a bit of a slide on Films price wise this year.

Certainly on Machines overall.

Are we down to one sort of official super 8 fixer in the UK now ?

Some lovely stuff there Tom.

Its funny how film gets that obsessional thing over us, but a very nice thing.

Best Mark.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on December 24, 2017, 08:56 AM:

It is Mark, especially with so many other cheaper options for projecting. Got to have that projector Whirring.
There are a couple of repair people around,
As i have found out its Kevin Brown for 16mm in Nottingham,
I know of John White but perhaps an updated list for any other repair chaps n Girls.(me being PC [Big Grin]

)

Posted by Dave Groves (Member # 4685) on December 24, 2017, 11:26 AM:

Thought the 16mm prices for b films seemed a bit cheaper (and there's plenty on the dealers lists) but for A titles it seems the skies the limit. The problem is that as films become scarce the better off collectors will get what they want at any price. Now why wasn't my dad a millionaire????

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on December 24, 2017, 12:14 PM:

Dave, i have always said if i won the lottery i still wouldn't pay ridiculous prices for what is a movie. [Wink]

Posted by Terry Sills (Member # 3309) on December 24, 2017, 12:52 PM:

I absolutely disagree that 'the bubble will burst'. On the contrary, as rarity increases, which is a certainty, so will prices. There are still a good many projectors out there so spares can be got from cannibalisation at the last resort. True that repair engineers are thin on the ground at the moment, but demand usually procures a supply. Projector repair is not rocket science it just requires a skill and dedication that most of us lack.
Film is another matter. a lot of the damage is irrepairable so that makes good stock even more rare and desirable.
Hang on to your hats, look after your precious collections and reap the whirlwind. (just my opinion of course)

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on December 24, 2017, 03:04 PM:

Well, it will be good if your correct there Terry, i could do with a pension pot [Big Grin]

Posted by Terry Sills (Member # 3309) on December 24, 2017, 03:25 PM:

Think positive Tom. You derive great pleasure from your hobby and it is in my opinion that in the future the content will only increase in value if you look after and treasure your collection. Look to any retro technology and you will see that interest only goes one way - UP!

Posted by Daniel D. Teoli Jr. (Member # 6043) on December 24, 2017, 07:37 PM:

My archive just started this year with collecting small gauge films. Prior to this is was all still photography.

My archive acquired about 75 older BW stag 8mm, about 60 BW stag 16mm, about 20 historical non-stag 16mm and some early Kodachrome home movies from the late 30's / early 40's.

Here is an interesting film I had done...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy5bTWqSd3k

I'm always looking to buy interesting historical 16mm films. No trailers, no movies. I prefer 400 to 800 feet single reels.

Scanning is $$$ so am looing to get into 2k scans myself for 2018. This has been a learning year, as I had no film experience.

Posted by Burton Sundquist (Member # 5813) on December 25, 2017, 12:51 AM:

...I have to admit 2017 was indeed a very busy year for me having re-entering the hobby after a 40 year absence. What I have learned has been amazing, thanks to the most part by this very forum and to all the members who were ready to reply to my now obvious rookie questions. For that, Thanks!
There was one particular endeavor of mine that I truly believe could not have been achieved save for this Forum's members: Acquiring all 3X600' reels/spools of The Fog , in scope. It Started with an eBay purchase of part 3, and the search for the other 2 parts went on for months. I finally completed the feature. Not possible, I think, Had I not joined This Forum, and was fortunate to be accepted.
So Thanks to the Forum, and to you two members in particular for making it happen. Happy Holidays to all!

[ December 25, 2017, 11:08 AM: Message edited by: Burton Sundquist ]

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on December 25, 2017, 02:13 AM:

Terry, your right i agree 100%. I think sometimes because we have been collecting here for 40 years and we often take for granted how few people own a collection of cine films and equipment. It is almost a full time job looking after it all and keeping an eye on everything to ensure it is all up to date with any cleaning.
While it isnt gold or diamonds a lot of time money and effort has been put into it over the years so taking stock as you say is very much spot on. [Wink]

Burton, well done for obtaining the fog scope feature, it is a very good movie on the big screen. [Wink]

Posted by Burton Sundquist (Member # 5813) on December 26, 2017, 12:14 AM:

...Tom, I must say it's worth every penny, But would not recommend trying to buy a feature a reel/spool at a time...$$$ add up. I also wanted to add a thanks to the handlers, who offer here or post links to updated lists. We are fortunate as collectors to have equally dedicated sellers. Their service has been a source of many gems and it has been a pleasure doing business with all. Here's to continued relations in 2018!

Posted by Melvin England (Member # 5270) on December 27, 2017, 09:37 AM:

I decided to refrain from the forum and, indeed, Ebay for the last three days or so, and concentrate on the festivities.

Returning now, as I am doing, I read this wonderful topic.

Since I started collecting films in 1972-ish (starting with 50' black and white silents, progressing to features.....with sound!) I can honestly say that 2017 has been my BEST EVER YEAR BAR NONE for film purchases. Some of these I could only dare to dream would ever adorn my collection. But in the last 365 ish days.....THEY HAVE DONE!

Poltergeist (flat)
Gremlins
Texas Chainsaw Massacre
The Wizard of Oz
Yankee Doodle Dandy
Lethal Weapon
Carquake
Reach For The Sky
Ben Hur
City Heat
The African Queen
Police Academy 2
A Night To Remember
The Lady Vanishes
The 39 Steps
War Of The Worlds

.... amongst others. So, as you can see, it has not been an "okay" year....It has been BRILLIANT !

Here's to 2018 !

.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on December 29, 2017, 01:40 AM:

great additions there to any collection Melvin, [Wink]

Posted by Melvin England (Member # 5270) on December 29, 2017, 03:24 AM:

Thanks Tom.

Of course, there is another title I should have added to the list..... a certain 200' scope/stereo song and dance routine from "Carousel" which departed your collection last July as I seem to remember!!!?

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on December 29, 2017, 09:47 AM:

Get on Melvin, i forgot that you bought that one, I'm pleased its gone to a good home,
My other two turned up from Steve at the Reel Image today,
Three on Couch, good old Jerry Lewis 400 footer,
A very rare trailer on 8mm Pulp Fiction, A1 quality to and it appears to be on brown pre stripe stock so the sound its stonking.
Only problem was for some reason i got hit with £14.00 import bill, (VAT and a rip off fee from Royal mail) so this will probably put paid to me buying from the States again unless it is really something special, i was well peed off with this as the two films were only $40 so now this import crap makes it expensive. First time thats ever happened to me but these two titles now conclude my list for 2017 [Wink]

Right then, whats going to be my first buy of 2018 [Big Grin]

Posted by Melvin England (Member # 5270) on December 29, 2017, 04:38 PM:

"The Postman Always Rings Twice" perhaps?

Posted by Robert Crewdson (Member # 3790) on December 30, 2017, 03:16 PM:

2017 has also been the best year for me, with 11 16mm features purchased between March and November. I couldn't afford to buy that amount during the Golden Age of Super 8 in the 70s and early 80s. There seems to have been better titles on offer this year. My increase has probably been due to spending more time looking on Ebay, and buying through the Global Shipping Programme. Most were listed at BIN prices, which with customs and postage, often worked out no dearer than what you would expect to pay from a UK dealer.
Among the titles I picked up were,
Zulu
Wife of Monte Cristo
Sword of Monte Cristo
The Four Feathers (Very nice copy from Mr Guest)
The gem of my collection, now has to be, simply for it's rarity, 'My Wife's Family', a comedy with Ted Ray and Ronald Shiner.
I had actually had to stop adding due to the extreme shortage of space, but then had to come back when David listed 'Jason and the Argonauts'; this has been my most desired film since Derann issued a Super 8 feature, which must be over 30 years ago.
Strangely, after waiting all these years; within two weeks of receiving it, I found a local shop selling imported wine from Georgia, in clay bottles. One of them showed Jason and the Argonauts. I learned from my wife that Colchis, where the golden fleece was is in present day Georgia. Needless to say I have added this bottle to my collection.
I also purchased a print of 'Siege of the Saxons', which was the supporting feature to Jason in 1963.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on December 31, 2017, 03:55 AM:

ZULU!!!!!!!
this title is one i would love to have on 16. I would want a good colour scope copy so im guessing i will be looking forever on this. [Wink]

Posted by Neil Massey (Member # 5081) on December 31, 2017, 05:05 AM:

As a relative newcomer to 16mm collecting, this year has seen me add:
Murder on the Orient Express (Agfa);
Death on the Nile (Agfa)
The Eye of the Needle (Fuji)
Oliver! (scope IB tech)
Green for Danger (beautiful splice free print).
Zulu - if only!

Posted by Robert Crewdson (Member # 3790) on December 31, 2017, 05:41 AM:

As a beginner, you have some great titles there Neil. You did well to get Oliver in scope and IB Tech, I think that's quite a rarity.
We just bought one of those 4K televisions, and last week I watched the DVD of Zulu, and although it's amazingly sharp, I didn't enjoy it as much as projecting the film.

Posted by Neil Massey (Member # 5081) on December 31, 2017, 07:24 AM:

Thank you Robert, I'm in my second year and am up to 18 features - still a novice. Oliver! is great, although the only problem is that someone has cut the first musical number straight after the titles, so I'm missing about three minutes. Otherwise the film is complete, it looks - and sounds - great. I had forgotten some others added during the year:
The Best things in Life are Free - scope
The Riddle of the Sands - Fuji scope.
These two were bargains from David Guest, the latter is in its Filmbank/Rank hire box.
Paint Your Wagon (IB Tech) scope.
I can see space is going to become an issue in 2018..

Posted by Robert Crewdson (Member # 3790) on December 31, 2017, 07:48 AM:

You have done well to get such high profile titles with good colour in such a short time.

Another couple of titles I bought were:
Kelly and Me, a very nice print from David Guest, starring van Johnson; a very nice film for dog lovers.
Son of Robin Hood in Scope.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on January 01, 2018, 04:03 PM:

Neil, you did do well there, ib tech and scope, some excellent titles there. [Wink]

Posted by Neil Massey (Member # 5081) on January 02, 2018, 01:50 PM:

Thanks Tom. Must say that your print of Witness looks a stunner. I remember going to see that when it came out. It's one of those films with repeatability.

Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on January 02, 2018, 04:04 PM:

Well this year I finally found an English soundtrack print of "The Sting" part 2 of the 2x400ft release. I also gained on Super 8
I married a Woman 4x400ft B&W scope
Hounds Of Zarrof 4x400ft
The Island part 2 of 2x400ft
Singin' in the Rain 2x400ft
That'll be the Day part 1 of 4x400ft (to go with my 400ft extract that doesn't include any of this)
Dirty Mary Crazy Larry 400ft
The Great Escape extract 2 scope
Scope travelogues, Honeymoon Paradise & Stairways to the Andes
A reel of 7 James Bond trailers
The musical shorts "Bob Crosby & his Orchestra" 1938 & "Sounda of a City" 1960's pop Look at Life

And on 16mm the feature The Truth About Spring (John & Hayley Mills)

Yes, a very good year for me too.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on January 02, 2018, 04:54 PM:

All great stuff, lets hope we can all continue to add in 2018. [Wink]

[ December 26, 2018, 04:31 AM: Message edited by: Tom Photiou ]

Posted by Robert Crewdson (Member # 3790) on January 02, 2018, 05:07 PM:

Hi Brian, I wonder if your Bob Crosby film is different from mine; mine was released by Wing Films and distributed by DCR of the Isle of Wight; the release year was given as 1931. I think it included 'South Rampart Street Parade'.

Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on January 03, 2018, 03:28 AM:

It must be a different Bob Cosby film. Mine is a Dilm Archive Productions (Vintage Film series no 301 1938) distributed by BMM Film Services, Buckingham.

I bought it from Ian of Perrys Films at the revived Big Screen Scene in October.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on December 29, 2018, 02:29 PM:

2018 has been a reasonable year of additions for us, we sold a few off that we acquired last year along with some others to gain funds for new titles, however, here are our 2018 additions to our collection,

Die Hard feature, (at last)
A Disney xmas to replace our fading copy
Pathe news 1956
George Formby Souvenir
Murderers Row 400ft col
Abba the movie trailer
10 trailer scope
Goldeneye Promo (Tina Turner)
Innerspace trailer
Silence of the Lambs feature. (at last)
Toy Tinkers 200ft colour sound
Speedy Gonzales, Here today gone Tamale,
The Young Ones, 200ft colour sound,
Thats Entertainment reel 8,

On 16mm
Jagged Edge
High Plains Drifter, Scope
Madigan 800ft version
Mash Episode (Aid Station) excellent colour
The Professionals (The Rack, excellent colour)
No Way out LPP
Robin Prince of Thieves
Minder Bury my half in Waltham green
Bilko episode, Grand Hotel,
Combat episode, Reunion,
Mississippi Burning LPP

We did also sell off a fair few small items and one or two old features in 2018 and will continue to do so in 2019 to reduce number.

Another excellent purchase for me in 2018 was my Eiki SLT2 super slot loader and a Kodak 19mm lens from Kevin Clarke.

Now looking out to make a January purchase, 8 or 16mm [Wink]

Happy New year to all.

[ January 03, 2019, 03:29 PM: Message edited by: Tom Photiou ]

Posted by Paul Barker (Member # 4318) on January 03, 2019, 04:27 AM:

here are some of my 16mm feature purchases in 2018.

GREEN FOR DANGER. 1946
LET GEORGE DO IT.1940. (formby)
TURNED OUT NICE AGAIN.1941 (formby)
A TASTE OF HONEY. 1961
GREAT EXPECTATIONS 1946
A KIND OF LOVING. 1962
SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY MORNING. 1960
ANGEL WHO PAWNED HER HARP. 1954
BLACK SHEEP OF WHITEHALL. 1941.(will hay)
A HOME OF YOUR OWN.1965.
HINDLE WAKES 1952
TOP HAT. 1935.
LIFE AT THE TOP. 1965.
THE LOVE MATCH. 1955. (arthur askey)
A TOUCH OF THE SUN. 1956. (frankie howard)
ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT. 1930
SHOP AT SLY CORNER.1946.

as you can see im a lover of B/W films

Posted by Patrick Walsh (Member # 637) on January 03, 2019, 01:07 PM:

On super 8 sound
TRUE LIES all 3 parts
CAPTAIN AMERICA
THE COLDITZ STORY
a better quality print of RAISE THE TITANIC scope digest
CAPRICORN ONE scope digest
QUO VADIS digest

On 16mm
BATMAN THE MOVIE
BACK FROM ETERNITY

On 35mm
INVASION USA
THE DELTA FORCE
SUPERMAN IV THE QUEST FOR PEACE
UNDER SIEGE 2

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on January 07, 2019, 07:28 AM:

Batman the movie, is that the 1966 Adam West film?
Under Siege 2, good action movie. I'd like either of the two under siege films. [Wink]

Posted by Rob Young. (Member # 131) on January 07, 2019, 08:45 AM:

With moving house in late 2017 and putting together a new screening room, I only bought one super 8 film in 2018, but what a gem it is.

Ian O'Reilly advertised it here, "Bulldog Jack", a 30's crime caper with Fay Fray. 3 x 400ft and at a very decent price, I took a punt, not knowing anything about it.

After a bit of google, it is a Bulldog Jack off-shoot, edited from the feature, although just where and how you couldn't guess.

It is intentionally hilarious, the sort of film that has been overlooked, but hugely entertaining. I looked to see if a digital version exists, but apparently only a Spanish version with average picture and very poor sound, so another reason to have the very watchable super 8 version.

It was shown several times over Christmas with lots of laughs, and a bargain from the ever reliable Ian.

Just brilliant - long live real film!

[Smile]

PS. It came on one full 1200ft spool with "J. Bird" written in black marker around the edge, so I wonder if this once belonged to the great John Bird of super 8 heritage here in the UK?

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on January 07, 2019, 01:56 PM:

Rob, ive not heard of that one but it sounds like a good one. [Wink]

Posted by Larry Arpin (Member # 744) on January 08, 2019, 02:29 PM:

Bought 16mm only:

GOLDEN VOYAGE OF SINBAD
MARK OF ZORRO
FUNNY GIRL

TOT WATCHERS(Tom and Jerry cartoon)

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