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Posted by Robert Crewdson (Member # 3790) on September 01, 2018, 11:37 AM:

I haven't been able to play any CDs for months, as it looks like the laser has gone on the player; about 10 years old and not often used. Today I am having an evening of vinyl, on a stereo I bought 47 years ago. No problems. Progress?

Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on September 01, 2018, 02:35 PM:

Robert I find vinyl better to listen to these days, and around once a week I visit a second hand store that has thousands of records, its amazing what you find [Cool]

The other week picked up an old Tom Jones 45 from 1968 "Delilah", a big hit for him at the time. I remember hearing it lots on the radio at the time, and played it lots of times, had My My Delilah Why oh Why Delilah and so on going through my head all this week [Big Grin]

Those old vinyl recording sound to me just as I remember them before the CD age, another one I picked up at the same time was Mr Bojangles by the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band.....brilliant stuff [Cool]

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on September 01, 2018, 02:46 PM:

Vinyl has none of the harsh brittle sound that you can get with CD's. Being uncompressed, it is closer to the original analogue recording, and just seems a lot easier on the ear.

Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on September 01, 2018, 03:30 PM:

CDs shouldn't be compressed as they are 16 bit linear PCM only MP3 etc are compressed. In fact a lot of vinvyl was compresses to stop needle skip on loud transients.

Also I remember a pub band dedicating "Delilah" to O J Simpson around the time of his trial!!!!!

Posted by Robert Crewdson (Member # 3790) on September 01, 2018, 04:55 PM:

I prefer vinyl, Graham. I sold all my 50s rock'n'roll because I have no one to leave it to. Regrettable, but I used part of the money to buy a feature, and bought some of the same tracks on CD. I've kept all my other vinyl, comedy, classical, C&W. I'll be keeping all that; even Harry Lauder.

Posted by Bill Brandenstein (Member # 892) on September 01, 2018, 04:58 PM:

Agreed, not to start an analog vs. digital argument here, as I do a great deal in both sides of the audio world. But Paul, if you've found digital sound to be harsh, something's wrong. Early digital in the 1980s could be quite harsh, that's a given. But not these days. Mastering, playback equipment, and even source material can be all to blame.

However, back on topic: there is just nothing like putting vinyl on the platter and hearing something amazing. Hmmm, kinda reminds me of a different hobby, in the visual arena...!

Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on September 02, 2018, 11:22 AM:

I still have Rock Around the Clock on 78 Shellac!!!!! I wonder when that will come back into fashion.

Posted by Claus Harding (Member # 702) on September 02, 2018, 01:31 PM:

No problems here with records! My 40-year-old Luxman 131 has had a new arm and a couple of cartridge upgrades over the years, but it still chugs along with impressive specs and sound. I have about 500 LPs to feed the beast. One of my 'good ones' is the original stereo LP release of "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" with the Tokens; It still sounds rather marvelous.

Claus.

Posted by Robert Crewdson (Member # 3790) on September 02, 2018, 03:16 PM:

I had that on Shellac as well Brian, along with Rockin' through the Rye.

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on September 02, 2018, 03:20 PM:

You gotta love those glorious turntables! [Smile]

Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on September 02, 2018, 04:10 PM:

Brilliant Claus [Cool]

I am glad we never threw out our old records years ago....but it did came close.

Here are a couple of photos I took of LP covers.. with a sort of film theme [Wink]

….cant do that with Blu-rays.....

I watched an interview with Roger Moore years ago and when asked his favorite intro to his bond movies it was Paul McCartney and Wings to the 1973 film "Live and let Die"

Posted by Mark Mander (Member # 340) on September 02, 2018, 04:11 PM:

I did a disco yesterday for a 50th birthday party all on vinyl,loved doing it and some there really appreciated the night being old school,sounded great on both decks and I really enjoyed doing it. I have also just bought the new Elvis LP on vinyl, Where No One Stands Alone, highly recommend it,Mark

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on September 03, 2018, 06:45 PM:

While we are here, I have many experiences that inner tracks (last track before the label) does sound worse than outer tracks. Did you also hear the same?

How can we avoid this?

Posted by William Olson (Member # 2083) on September 03, 2018, 07:17 PM:

Records (I don't like calling them vinyl) have been with me all of my 63 years. If you find anything in Phase 4 Stereo, buy it. They sound amazing!

Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on September 04, 2018, 03:05 AM:

The inner tracks will no be as good due to the lower linear speed of the stylus cutting them. The undulations of the walls are closer together. A bit like using 18 fps for film sound rather than 24. I think that is why most singles were recorded at 45 rpm not 33 1/3.

Posted by Rob Young. (Member # 131) on September 04, 2018, 03:43 AM:

I spent a small fortune on my Linn LP12 a couple of years ago - new speed board, motor and stylus (the beautiful Audio Technica OC9 Mk III).

I did hum and har about it, but so glad I did it now.

It still amuses me to see vinyl records (albeit very limited) in our local supermarket. [Smile]

Posted by Stuart Reid (Member # 1460) on September 04, 2018, 08:24 AM:

We should have a "Show your other analogue bits" thread. I'd love to see some hifi! I'm in the middle of rebuilding a Lenco GL75 turntable.

Posted by Simon Balderston (Member # 5106) on September 04, 2018, 10:16 AM:

i had one of those years ago great for playing 78s

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on September 04, 2018, 10:25 AM:

A big resurgence of Vinyl LP records in the USA. I see them for sale everywhere now - even Cracker Barrel is selling them!

Posted by Bryan Chernick (Member # 1998) on September 04, 2018, 10:10 PM:

Graham, your turntable looks like the same ones we have in the northern hemisphere, don't they spin the other direction down under? [Big Grin]

Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on September 04, 2018, 10:59 PM:

Bryan

[Big Grin]

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on September 05, 2018, 11:01 AM:

I had a thought just yesterday about this subject of our passion for ancient technology!

i had a Muppet LP way back in the day, of the muppets TV special, "The Frog Prince". well the original TV special was 50 minutes long, where the LP was 42 minutes and some seconds ...

... ut the NEAT thing about the LP is that it is in STEREO, where the TV special has always, in every re-issue of it, whether on VHS or DVD, has been MONO ...

So, i want to find an exceptional copy of the TV show, and then, where I put in the stereo LP audio on the TV special. True, there will be about 7 and a half minutes of mono left to the show, but it's really neat to hear these old shows in stereo!

Another really interesting cases of this is the animated TV special, "Santa and the Three Bears", which originally ran about 48 or so minutes, but they also released an LP of that TV special, which only runs about 35 or so minutes, but hearing that audio (especially the music) in stereo in High fidelity is really a treat, especially when it's a cherished memory from my past!

So, LP's have even more uses than we once thought! [Smile]

Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on September 05, 2018, 11:06 PM:

When I came across this record in a junk store and its still in good condition a while ago, I thought I might have some future use for it on a possible video upload.. [Roll Eyes]

….notice the date of 1957...

Posted by Ken Finch (Member # 2768) on September 09, 2018, 01:23 PM:

Hi Graham, I still have this one and have used it on home videos!! Ken Finch. [Smile]

Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on September 11, 2018, 12:07 AM:

Hi Ken

That's great its amazing what is out there, and can be still used for video work [Smile]

I came across this LP last year and took a photo of its sleeve [Cool]

Posted by Robert Crewdson (Member # 3790) on September 11, 2018, 04:14 PM:

I don't have much in the way of film soundtracks. I bought the soundtrack of Zulu after the film's re-release about 1970 or 1971. The only other film soundtracks I have are for the Mario Lanza films, 'The Student Prince', 'The Great Caruso', and 'Serenade'.

Posted by David Guest (Member # 2791) on September 11, 2018, 04:16 PM:

hi Robert sent you a pm and an email no reply

Posted by Robert Crewdson (Member # 3790) on September 12, 2018, 04:03 PM:

Replied David.

Posted by Lindsay Morris (Member # 3812) on September 13, 2018, 04:19 AM:

I volunteer as a techy at a local Community FM Radio station and a few presenters use vinyl regularly and we recently had to replace the stylus and swap over a faulty preamp unit.
Still sounds great even amongst the other music being played which is either CD's or stuff on computers.
With good clean records and a good cartridge its quite hard to pick listening off air as to which is CD or which is vinyl. The station has something like 2500 LP's of varying sorts stored away until we can get bigger premises to be able to once again have a record library. At the moment we are crammed into temporary accommodation and some stuff had to be stored as barely enough room for 2 small studios and office area.

Posted by David Hardy (Member # 4628) on September 13, 2018, 05:47 AM:

I have never stopped listening to or collecting Lp records since i started my collection around late 1968.

I have around 2000 Classical / Opera /... 560 Film Soundtracks & Shows / 300 Popular & Easy Listening.

I also have a good quantity of 78RMPs too besides 45RPM Singles and EPs.

I use mainly good quality Hi-Fi equipment for playback and listening so no " cheap record molesters " allowed to get anywhere near my collection in my home.

Turntables : LINN SONDEK LP12 / GARRARD 401 / GOLDRING GL 75.

Pickup arms : LINN AKITO MK 1 & 2 arms. / SME 3009 original and Improved versions

Cartridges : ORTOFON SPU GOLD Moving Coil / ORTOFON M20FL SUPER / SHURE V15 MK 3 / OSAWA M60L Moving Coil / SHURE 95ED / SHURE M55E / SHURE M78S. / AUDIO TECHNICA AT95E / NAGAOKA MP11.

Amplifiers : QUAD 22 CONTROL UNIT / QUAD II POWER VALVE AMPS. / QUAD 33 PRE-AMP / QUAD 303 POWER AMP. / ONKYO A-933 INTEGRATED AMP. / YAMAHA DSP -A2 AV AMPLIFIER.

Loudspeakers : QUAD ( ESL57 ) ORIGINAL ELECTROSTATIC. / QUAD 989 ELECTROSTATIC. / MORDAUNT SHORT MEZZO 6 FLOORSTANDING / USHER S 520 BOOKSHELF.

Add to that list a QUAD FM 3 tuner / QUAD FM 4 tuner / CAMBRIDGE AUDIO DAB 300 DIGITAL tuner / and REVOX A77 2 track / TANDBERG TD 20A 4 track Reel to Reel Tape recorders and a NAKAMICHI 1.5 Cassette Deck / and i am in analogue heaven.

I do also have a REGA APOLLO Top loader / ONKYO C-733 CD players for digital CDs and i am doing just fine audio wise.

[Smile]

Posted by Robert Crewdson (Member # 3790) on September 13, 2018, 06:42 AM:

A few days ago I got out an old 10" LP by Michael Holiday from about 1958; beats anything I have on CD.

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