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Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on June 24, 2019, 10:38 AM:

"Toy Story 4" has broken global box office records for an animated film.
It earned £187 million (GBP) since opening worldwide over the weekend.

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on June 24, 2019, 10:49 AM:

I have very mixed feelings about this one: I really wish they'd stopped at "III".

My feeling is sooner or later they'll make one that stinks and the franchise will end on a low.

So am I going to go see it?

-of course I am!

So, I am also part of the problem!

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on June 24, 2019, 11:11 AM:

I agree, I hope that this one is really good or at least passable. Toy Story 3 was, at times, pretty harsh on the kiddies (toys almost being ground up) ...

Hey, has anyone noticed that Disney doesn't seem to have an original idea these days to save they're lives? What's next, a hip hop or rap remake of "Song of the South" set in the inner city?!!

(Don't laugh, it's possible with Disney!)

Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on June 24, 2019, 02:34 PM:

Walt wouldn't have liked all these sequels. How many were done in his day?

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on June 24, 2019, 03:36 PM:

Sometimes it's as if they believe all the good stories have already been written. I'm guessing there are still a bunch out there that haven't just yet!

It's just when you keep squeezing every last drop of juice out of a piece of fruit, it will likely finish kind of sour.

Look at Star Trek: as much as I enjoy this franchise they've done it forwards and backward over and over again for about 30 years now. They aren't "boldly going where no man has gone before", trust me: they've already been there! (Please! STOP!)

Posted by Bill Phelps (Member # 1431) on June 24, 2019, 06:56 PM:

With the big studios it’s all about money intake not so much stories. They will drain all they can out of big money makers. Some of them actually do have good stories but most are a feast for the eyes and money in the studio pocket. Today’s movies can make millions of dollars and still be considered bombs. I also have mixed feelings about the new Toy Story. I thought the 3rd film was a great end to the saga but hey.....there is a guaranteed/built in audience that WILL go to see it so that’s why it was made. Maybe it is great.....I’ll see it at some point.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on June 25, 2019, 10:57 AM:

I like the idea of that new miniseries or short series that will star Patrick Stewart as an aging Jean Luc Picard. that might be quite good. I always did like Star trek.

My opinion is, as long as they can come up with a fresh way to do things, a franchise can continue for a long time.

I am currently writing a new spin on the Frankenstein story that's never been done before, as it occured to me, "Hey, why haven't they tried this as a story idea?"

... but then, of course, it's a new idea and so it'll never get off the ground. [Smile]

Posted by Leon Norris (Member # 3151) on June 26, 2019, 12:08 PM:

Whoever would thought? I have the first one by Derann! I never would imaged there would be four!

Posted by Rob Young. (Member # 131) on June 26, 2019, 01:01 PM:

I reckon you go and see it before casting judgement.

Just like you should for any movie.

If you don't want to pay a lot, just wait 3 months or so for the domestic version, which will be cheap and better quality than we could ever have hoped for at home back in the day.

I never held out much hope for Toy Story 3, but it was genius and moving.

So who knows?

Big money movie making is a business, and a risk as well as an art form.

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on July 05, 2019, 08:03 PM:

We saw it tonight: it's good! I can't say it rises to the standard of the others, but that's a pretty high bar.

Kind of a subtle difference: the others were more adventure stories yet this one seems to have crossed the line into an action movie.

Of course the computer animation is better than ever before. It is photorealistic in a lot of sequences. The biggest exception is where the toys are in a scene: Woody and Buzz basically have to look exactly like they did from the very beginning and can't ever become "real" looking. Early on Pixar had problems with human characters, but they got past that a long time ago.

I won't give it away, but I think it ended in a way that should prevent Toy Story 5...

-but then again, when it came time to do Star Trek III, they found a way to un-kill Spock, didn't they?!

(No: they didn't "kill" any toys!)

BTW: They've done a CGI photorealistic Lion King remake. Maybe it's just me, but the idea of a perfectly real looking animal speaking human language may take a little getting used to. (Maybe they should stick with "woof" and "meow" for a while...)

Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on July 06, 2019, 02:27 AM:

I thought that in the first one the humans looking more like cartoons/caricatures was a style decision. The toy soldiers looked much more like real humans than the children and adults, proving it could be done.

Posted by Patrick Walsh (Member # 637) on July 06, 2019, 07:51 PM:

I am screening TOY STORY 4 at my cinema and it has done well, it has out done the other kids films I have on at the moment being ALADDIN and THE SECRET LIFE OF PETS 2 (its school holidays here at the moment)

Pat

Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on July 06, 2019, 09:03 PM:

Am I the only one who has never watched any of the Toy Story movies? I'm just not much into animated films. I did like Beauty and the Best and The Incredibles though.

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on July 06, 2019, 09:46 PM:

Oddly Enough: No, Janice. My son's girlfriend has never seen any of them either, but has decided she wants to. There's a decent chance the very first exposure to the series for her will be my own Derann print!

Toy Story is special to me because when I went to see it in 1995 I went to see the technological wonder, but I wound up staying for a really well told story. There is actually a lot of depth to these stories: the desire to be needed and how time challenges that, friendship and belonging and how loyalties are sometimes challenged, how even in closest relationships there come times to say goodbye and move on. It's actually pretty human stuff for a room full of toys!

Back in 1995, it sat in the middle ground between a traditionally animated film and live action, and pretty alone at that. It was easy to forget how it was made and every so often I asked myself "How did they do that?", forgetting nothing was real and they could do whatever they could imagine.

Don't feel too bad, Janice: I've never seen The Godfather, even if I get many of the references! "Leave the gun, take the cannoli." (My favorite is "Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer"!)

Posted by Leon Norris (Member # 3151) on July 07, 2019, 12:14 PM:

Derann did a great job on the toy story feature! Excellent picture and sound! Lots of family fun!

Posted by Oliver F. R. Feld (Member # 1911) on July 07, 2019, 04:07 PM:

I agree: my TOY STORY print is movie magic and in my opinion a very nice addition to animated features on Super-8.

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on July 08, 2019, 02:35 AM:

Have a look at the trailer:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl9JS8-gnWQ
A VUE multiplex near me is showing the film 16 times a day. Wow! Now, there's choice. [Big Grin]

Posted by Leon Norris (Member # 3151) on July 08, 2019, 01:21 PM:

Nice trailer!

Posted by Barry Fritz (Member # 1865) on July 08, 2019, 04:39 PM:

How can you not like a story that has characters named Buzz and Woody!😜

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