8mm Forum: A New TOY!! Eumig S938

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Posted by Mathew James (Member # 4581) on August 22, 2019, 08:09 AM:

Hi All,
Well, this has been a strange few weeks for me.... I think i must be bored....
Started a new hobby, also bought another super 8 machine , and so am fixing a number of things.
There are some eumigs coming up recently locally. I just bought a S938 stereo projector, near MINT...and there is another eumig for sale currently , an S936 which looks more used... I ended up with the S938 since he was so close to me it was worth getting it shipped...
I am just getting familiar with it and have been getting great help from Paul Adsett in the meanwhile.... I want to make sure it is running top notch!
I will post pics soon once i get a chance. Belts seem newer so everything seems good so far....
I just ordered some bulbs from Steve osbourne so am excited to try the brighter bulbs
So far, it is truly amazing and fun to have some more bells and whistles to play with. The sounds is great. I have a couple films i may try rerecording on that have bad tracks....

I would like to know what lenses fit this machine so i can perhaps look for a better lens than the stock 1.3. It is fine for now however!

Posted by Leon Norris (Member # 3151) on August 22, 2019, 10:34 AM:

Mathew, pm sent!

Posted by Maurizio Di Cintio (Member # 144) on August 22, 2019, 11:03 AM:

Matthew, you can try the Eumig Suprogon 1.2 that came with the 940. More versatile interms of image size management; or the excellent Schneider Xenovaron 1.1 11-30 mm, equally practical but crisper and... (sorry) rarer to get with the proper Eumig barrel... But it dies exist and if you find it it's woth its while.

About re-recording: I disadvise you to use this machine for such a task: although te sound is great, the heads are soft (especially track 2) with no known sources for new ones: so my suggestion is to use your new 'toy' for screenings, perhaps with some trick to lock down track 2 sound pressers everytime you don't need the sound from it; this way you will delay its wear to a great extent. Perhaps Paul can give you some more advice.

Anyway ENJOY your new projector!

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on August 22, 2019, 11:27 AM:

Lucky man, Mathew! I have been looking for one of those for a long time! I don't think that a lot of these shows up on U.S. ebay or even show as listed, period. maybe I need to start typing in "EBAY Canada"?!

Did you find it on ebay?

Posted by Mathew James (Member # 4581) on August 22, 2019, 11:41 AM:

Thanx very much for the advice folks! much appreciated. It will take me awhile to get into this. My son who loves to help is at camp this week so i am just cleaning it really, until he returns...
Hi Osi, I found it on a local buy and sell called Kijiji.
If you serch kijiji canada right now, you will see the Eumig S936 for sale i mentioned... I just look once a week at this site and hope something local shows up...local being within 100 kms for shipping. This eumig is HEAVY. I haven't tested against my ST1200HD, but i bet they would be good, one in each arm, for doing curls [Smile]

I have too many super 8 machines now...i need to start unloading some stuff soon before the boss unloads me [Big Grin]

[ August 22, 2019, 10:00 PM: Message edited by: Mathew James ]

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on August 22, 2019, 11:57 AM:

Ha! Great good luck getting that S938! Judging by the stereo output of my S926 Eumig (and what I have read on this forum), you are in for a treat with that Eumig.

I mean, my EUMIG is close to going to that great "film storage facility in the sky" but to this very day, it STILL doesn't scratch my films and for me, that makes it the best kind of projector! [Smile]

Posted by Leon Norris (Member # 3151) on August 22, 2019, 12:37 PM:

That is a nice looking machine! Good luck!

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on August 22, 2019, 12:52 PM:

Maurizio's excellent suggestion, about limiting track 2 head wear by relieving the pressure pad fingers, is something he posted several years ago and I have followed his advice ever since. What I did was to use another pressure block from an old 926 and I just cutoff the two balance track plastic fingers. I now only use the original unmodified pressure pad when projecting stereo films. So 90% of the time the track 2 head is seeing no wear at all - a huge save on head wear.
Yes, there are much better lenses available for the 938 which will noticeably improve brightness, contrast, and sharpness. If I were Matt I would look for an f1.0 lens, certainly 1.1 max. Eumig made an f1.0 zoom, and I use a Kodak Ektar f1.0 fixed 22mm lens off an old Kodak M100, which is well worth looking out for.
The good news is that Matt appears to have a fully functional Eumig S938 in mint condition so he can now run with it. [Smile]

[ August 22, 2019, 02:03 PM: Message edited by: Paul Adsett ]

Posted by Leon Norris (Member # 3151) on August 22, 2019, 01:02 PM:

I never new eumig made a f1.0 lens! Best one I know of is the eumig f1.2 zoom lens! There is nothing like having a top of the line projector!

Posted by Mathew James (Member # 4581) on August 22, 2019, 09:57 PM:

Here are some pics. I really gave it a good cleaning and it is clean as a whistle, except for in between the lens and the moveable lens part. Does anyone know how to take the moveable lens part off the eumig lens to clean inside better?
Now, If i can figure out how to upload a video somewhere...

note to self: If i tighten the right front cover screw too much, it causes the counter to stop turning [Big Grin]

backing it off a half turn is enough to allow it to go again... [Wink]

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on August 23, 2019, 03:09 AM:

I hate to use the as a sales picth as a great thread but I am selling a very nice 12.5mm 1.2 lens for this from a 940 for £55.

Makes a real difference.

Great Machines Mathew.

Best Mark.

Posted by Leon Norris (Member # 3151) on August 23, 2019, 09:23 AM:

Nice pictures Mathew!

Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on August 23, 2019, 10:04 AM:

Thanks for the pics Matthew. That is really a beautiful machine. I'd love to see a video of it running. If you have a Youtube account...just upload it to YouTube and post the link here. It's pretty simple.

Posted by Mathew James (Member # 4581) on August 23, 2019, 10:20 AM:

Thanx Mark, Leon and Janice!

I don't really use youtube, but try this!

Matt's Eumig S938 Stereo Video 1

Matt's Eumig S938 Stereo Video 2
I didn't want to disturb the queen too much from her resting spot [Big Grin]

[ August 24, 2019, 07:59 PM: Message edited by: Mathew James ]

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on August 23, 2019, 03:40 PM:

Great stuff Mathew, and very, very, nice too.

Looks super ( 8 ).

Best Mark.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on August 24, 2019, 10:56 AM:

Nice little video and it definitely shows off that superior Eumig sound, being that it was recorded live. I can just imagine how good it sounded right there in the room, if the sound reproduction was that good on the video! [Eek!]

Posted by Leon Norris (Member # 3151) on August 24, 2019, 12:52 PM:

Nice video! Enjoy!

Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on August 24, 2019, 01:56 PM:

Link says video not available. [Frown]

Posted by Mathew James (Member # 4581) on August 24, 2019, 08:00 PM:

...try now Janice...sorry...it is a 24 link unfortuntaely...we have 24 hours again... [Big Grin]

Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on August 24, 2019, 08:27 PM:

Sweet! A beautiful machine.

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on August 25, 2019, 02:58 PM:

Mathew asked how to remove the sliding front lens on the 938 lens assembly in order to clean the lenses.
If you look at the front of the lens you will see two black plastic 'buttons' which can be gently pried off, using a sharp pin, to reveal the screws which hold the front sliding lens to the main body of the lens. These two screws engage two nuts on the back side of the lens flange. It's an easy job, and the little plastic buttons will snap back in place when reassembling
the lens.

Posted by Leon Norris (Member # 3151) on August 29, 2019, 02:57 PM:

I think that if I do get a S940 I would buy two! Keep one as a spare! It would be good to have one as a backup! But we will see!

Posted by Mathew James (Member # 4581) on August 29, 2019, 08:38 PM:

thanx Janice!
*Leon, the S940 looks nice too, and i agree with osi that i like the analog better than the digital counter look. Would be nice to have one of each.
*Paul, thanx so much for that info! Much appreciated!
I was able today with my kids who have returned from camp and like to help to clean the lens!
It was easy to do as you say. Used a small pin, popped them off, unscrewed and cleaned, put back in reverse.

I have a question concerning cleaning the sound head, which is on pg 22 in the manual. Problem i just noticed is that there is a wedge tool in the manual, but i unfortunately did not get this tool with the machine. Is there a way to safely follow similar instructions perhaps using a different method? I would like to clean everything to make sure everything is working maximum.

Thanx for the advice of the brighter bulbs and THANX to STEVE OSBORNE for shipping new bulbs to me so fast.
I love the reel image magazine included and see that you have a nice write-up Paul on the 'eumig outclasses elmo' which i can't wait to read... I am going now to try Steve's brighter xenophot bulb tonight, maybe some L&H [Big Grin]

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on August 30, 2019, 12:36 AM:

I`m pretty sure there is a chap selling heads that may fit the Eumigs on german ebay for pennies really.

They look right-ish or similar, maybe other makes too and maybe worth buying the odd one or two anyway.

If you look he has at least 3 types.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/CK-841-R-Uher-Aufnahme-Wiedergabekopf-Super-8-Projektor-Tonkopf-W62/122855015267?hash=item1c9abac363:g:GB0AAOSwiVdaLkHu

Best Mark.

PS continued happy faddling`s, you can feel the fun here.

Posted by Steven J Kirk (Member # 1135) on August 30, 2019, 02:31 AM:

For cleaning the sound head, just turn that red nut to make that locking bar drop to the side, then the lower part can come down and out. It is the pressure plate for the sound heads above. Best to have the machine on its back to then clean the sound heads.

The little red tool has a flat screwdriver-like end also that is for opening the side cover. I take it you know about the 'secret compartment' on these Eumigs, sometimes this might be where that tool is hiding. ( The secret is the top by the handle!) If you are new to these...

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on August 30, 2019, 04:46 PM:

The main control knob must be turned to the forward with sound position (4 o'clock) WITH THE POWER OFF, before starting to turn the hex-head with the plastic tool and removing the pressure pad Similarly when reinstalling the pressure pad.

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