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Alan Rik
Film God

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From: New York City, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted July 16, 2003 09:19 PM

Hi All!
I am selling my GS1200P Xenon on Ebay now. All the details can be found here. Its expensive, but this one is in great shape!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2941141848&category=15255&rd=1
thanks for looking!

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John Clancy
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Cornwall
Registered: Jun 2003

posted July 17, 2003 02:50 AM

Oi Alan, the quote from your sales blurb "This is also the same model of machine that Derann films uses when they screen their movies on a 24 foot screen!" is incorrect. It's us lot at the BFCC who screen onto the 24 footer. That screen wouldn't actually fit in the room at Blackpool or Birmingham!

I'm interested to know though, what is the difference between the GS1200 Xenon and GS1200 XenonP? Also interesting that it comes with the 1.1 lens rather than the 1.0. Must be a rarity or perhaps those lenses were put on machines destined for America. Does the sale of this machine mean you are giving up the hobby?

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Kevin Faulkner
Film God

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posted July 17, 2003 03:25 AM

Hi John,
The "P" version is a playback only version. Elmo made these for situations where the machine is set up mainly for presentations etc where the recording features would not be required. It also helped to keep the cost down. I think they also produced the std GS as a "P" version but I dont think many were ever sold here in the UK or Europe.

Kevin.

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GS1200 Xenon with Elmo 1.0...great combo along with a 16-CL Xenon for that super bright white light.

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John Clancy
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Cornwall
Registered: Jun 2003

posted July 17, 2003 10:01 AM

Good grief! Presumably that's why it has the lesser lens in it too.

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Alan Rik
Film God

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From: New York City, NY, USA
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posted July 17, 2003 12:02 PM

Hi Guys-
Sorry BFCC! I guess I read that somewhere and I always attributed the 24 foot screen with Derann. My apologies!
Actually I believe that all the machines came with either the 1.2 long throw auditorium lens or the 1.0 fast lens. But I will be keeping the 1.0 lens for my main machine. Sorry bidders!
Give up the Hobby? Not on your life! I can't imagine not being able to watch "Beauty and the Beast" or my digest of Jaws. As well as the home movies I have shot. I guess I, like the rest of us...am just going to die clutching our projectors to our chests! (Along with the phone numbers of Leon Norris and Du All Camera..only repair places i know of!)

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Kevin Faulkner
Film God

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From: Essex UK
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posted July 17, 2003 12:57 PM

Alan, You mentioned something that I didnt know. I thought that all the long throw lenses were f1.4 I didnt realise they made an f1.2. We live and learn. Glad to hear your not giving the hobby up. [Smile]

I did just take a peek at your sale on ebay and would take you to task on the comments about this version of the GS being more robust. Believe me they are identical machines except for the extra lamp circuitry and the higher output sound IC. Tut Tut!!!

Kevin.

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GS1200 Xenon with Elmo 1.0...great combo along with a 16-CL Xenon for that super bright white light.

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Alan Rik
Film God

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From: New York City, NY, USA
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posted July 17, 2003 01:43 PM

Hello, I actually got the quote about the machine being more robust from Leon Norris, my Elmo Tech. He informed me of the stronger fan, more durable lamp housing, among other improvements. He has worked on both machines and told me when he got his Xenon that they may look identical but underneath they are different beasts!
BTW- if you have a chance you should check out the 1.2 lens. It is really a beautiful lens. When we screened the Independent Films at Lincoln Center that is the lens we used. Razor sharp that one. Better than the 1.0 if you can get by without the added lumens.

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Steve Klare
Film Guy

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From: Long Island, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted July 17, 2003 03:52 PM

Alan,

What an awesome machine! It's a shame I have to pay my mortgage this month rather than buy it from you!

(Oh well, maybe some day.)

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All I ask is a wide screen and a projector to light her by...

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Kevin Faulkner
Film God

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From: Essex UK
Registered: Jun 2003

posted July 17, 2003 05:38 PM

Steve, I agree. I would love one too but a 240Volt version.

Kevin.

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GS1200 Xenon with Elmo 1.0...great combo along with a 16-CL Xenon for that super bright white light.

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John Clancy
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1954
From: Cornwall
Registered: Jun 2003

posted July 18, 2003 02:40 AM

We use the 1:2 long throw lens in the big hall at the BFCC. The xenon we use also has the advantage of a two-bladed shutter.

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Alan Rik
Film God

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From: New York City, NY, USA
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posted July 18, 2003 02:46 AM

I have thought about getting the 2 bladed conversion done, but since i have films that I have shot at 18fps I was advised that due to the bright nature of the light, the flickering would be even more apparent than a Halogen GS with a 2 bladed shutter. Too bad they didn't make an adjustable shutter for the Elmo. From 2 bladed to 3 in a few clicks. I saw one on a website a while back for a Bauer t610 that could be changed from 2 bladed to 3 in a matter of seconds. Great idea!
Who do we have to pay off to re-tool another GS1200 but this time with an HTI bulb and all the other cool gadgets we need on there? [Big Grin]

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Kevin Faulkner
Film God

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From: Essex UK
Registered: Jun 2003

posted July 18, 2003 05:07 AM

Alan, Wittners in Germany do supply an adjustable 2/3 balde shutter for the GS. Great fun fitting it as you have to strip the whole transport mech down but I can now do that in a couple of hours.
Leon might be right about the fan and the lamphouse but believe me the rest of the GS Xenon and the std version are identical even the part numbers are the same.
Still not going to argue about that as I would say that alot of the reliability of these machines is also down to how well they are looked after and serviced.

Kevin.

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GS1200 Xenon with Elmo 1.0...great combo along with a 16-CL Xenon for that super bright white light.

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