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James N. Savage 3
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Washington, DC
Registered: Jul 2003

posted July 24, 2004 06:14 PM

I was thinking of painting black borders at the top and bottom of my glass beaded screen. Has anyone else out there tried this? Can or should it be done on a glass beaded screen?

Open to suggestions.

Nick.

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Paul Adsett
Film God

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From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted July 24, 2004 10:43 PM

Hi Nick,
Painting a black border onto any screen is not a good idea. The paint will run, and you will never get a razor sharp edge, which is what is required to really enhance the picture. I would recommend making a simple rectangular frame which hangs right in front of the screen. Make it out of 2 inch wide x 1/4 ins thick wooden strips, and paint it matt black. You can also incoporate swivels into the frame if you wish, so it can fold up when not in use.
A black border is the single most effective way to radically improve the apparent sharpness, contrast, and color of your S8 films.

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Tim Christian
Expert Film Handler

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From: Norfolk, UK
Registered: Jun 2003

posted July 25, 2004 02:19 AM

I make most of my own screens using a white, matt, textured plastic sheet supplied by a local firm at about $2/sq.m. The method used to paint sharp-edged mattes on them is given in

this article

This method does not apply to glass-bead screens. The only method that I have found that works for these is a mask cut from matt-black, self adhesive plastic sheet, or thick black paper for a temporary arrangement.

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Tony Milman
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: United Kingdom
Registered: Jun 2003

posted July 25, 2004 03:15 AM

Tim

Would your supplier post material? I am looking for something to make a large outdoor screen that could be weatherproof or rather showerproof. Could you leave me a message with the contact details?

Thanks

Tony

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Colin Preston
Film Handler

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From: Northwich, Cheshire, United Kingdom
Registered: Jun 2003

posted July 25, 2004 05:12 PM

Tony

Tip...Nip down to your local window 'Blind' shop, (preferably one that makes the blinds also), and ask to look through their materials that they use for the roller type blinds. They do all sorts of vinyls. Thats what I did, then expalined to them what I wanted it for. I got a 8x5ft cut to size and weighted at top and bottom. I hang thsi from 2 hooks and when the films over, just roll it back up.

Cost me £25 in total [Big Grin]

Col

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Film Handler

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From: Midland Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 2003

posted July 25, 2004 11:41 PM

If you're simply looking for a way to have a sharp edge to your picture slightly cropping the edges by placing wood posts (for the sides anyway) in the projected beam will give you a very nice edge. This works great for an outdoor setup (at least for drive-ins) since it's usually dark enough that you won't be able to see the area of the screen that you're not projecting on... so it's just a straight edge you're usually looking for.

Some drive-ins have also used "barn doors" painted flat black. For a home outdoor setup, a wood frame around the screen painted black may work well.

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