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Topic: Turning video into film... Crazy idea
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Jan Bister
Darth 8mm
Posts: 2629
From: Ohio, USA
Registered: Jan 2005
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posted July 21, 2005 07:02 PM
Well, I should probably ask... WHAT frame rate difference? ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
I know what you mean, of course, but the thing is... much of what we see on TV nowadays (movies and current series), while filmed with video cameras, is actually shot at 24 progressive frames per second. Professionals have the choice to shoot 24p, 30p or 60i, and a lot of stuff is shot in 24p, then telecined back up to 60i for broadcasting... this is why just about any current series you can watch on TV these days has a "film" effect although it's not actually shot on film.
Now, if you display video files using a PC, on an LCD screen... these files will have been reverse-telecined back to their original frame rate... MPEG4 (XviD or DivX) rips of DVD movies are treated to this "3:2 pulldown", and DVD player software even does this in realtime. (Interestingly enough, when playing back such video files at normal speed, many frames have to be doubled up again because the refresh rates of monitors are typically much higher than that of TVs. Mine, for example, refreshes at 85Hz... or 85 progressive frames per second...)
So what's my point? Well, when you show video files one frame at a time, and capture them with a super-8 camera's single-frame feature, you will (in most cases) end up with a 1:1 transfer at the correct speed of 24fps. That's the whole beauty of it. ![[Smile]](smile.gif) No need to just film off a "running" TV image and hope that rolling bars and flicker stay at a minimum.
I hope I'm making sense... if not, feel free to clobber me! ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Michael De Angelis
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1261
From: USA
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted July 22, 2005 02:32 PM
Hi Jan,
This is very interesting information which I was not aware of.
Anywho, if you have software that permits you to save the captured material,
and convert it to 25fps for PAL, or 29fps for NTSC or 24fps, or 18fps. Then I believe that after the video is saved, you can open a file image sequence which will open each 'pict' frame by frame as you may see it on film.
To my recollection (from a previous experience a long time ago) when Adobe software made the Premiere version for Apple Macintosh systems, anyone could save the imported info at any frame rate that was standard to a Cinema system. (This included capturing soundtracks and saving at various framerates
too.)
By clicking on an exact frame in the timeline, the corresponding frame pict would display in the playback window, with the accompaning track in a separate time line below the picture timeline.
'Adobe', now only supports the PC Windows based Platform with versions of Premiere and it's junior version:Premiere Express.
This is due to, Apple's counterpart released versions of Final Cut, and junior versions of Final Cut Express.
I have Final Cut Express version 1, and I'm still trying to understand it.
But if I find out anything, I'll be glad to pass it along.
Michael
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