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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted June 25, 2009 01:25 PM
Doug ...
Aaah, I see. A mis-understanding. I didn't even know who the seller was, and I had no intention of exposing anybody. What I was writing about was that, whether a forum member or not, IF a seller has acted improperly, they should be exposed, that's all, but I wasn't going to expose anybody myself.
Sorry if you got the wrong idea from my post, Gian.
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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted June 27, 2009 05:19 PM
Stewart,
Yeah, I've known about that for a long time as well. No, on the auction I just bid on, a little while back now, I was less than a minute before the auction was done. There was a first bid.
In this case, I bid 18.14 cents. Well, what do you know, my high bid was exactly where the bid now was! I was in the lead with the high bid being exactly 18.14, and it ended without a another bid,
of course.
Too coincidental for my tastes. I bet if I had bid a mere 8.62 cents, I would have won it for that exact 8.62.
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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted June 27, 2009 06:59 PM
Hey, maybe its me, (giggle), naw, not likely, I've never made much at all on ebay ... just enough to continue to buy me little "cine trinkets", which are less and less by the day.
I do hear what John is saying, though. Every once in awhile, you'll have atitle that should go for ten bucks. Lets say a STAR WARS title on Super 8, the good ole 400ft or 200ft.
This actually happened on this very title. A Star Wars 400ft came up, saying the average "Very Rare" (snicker) and apparantly, some newbie or generic Star Wars fan, and another, (or a sniper program) bid it up to 81.00 dollars!
For a few weeks after that, a lot of other people who had watched that auction, suddenly started to list thier old copies of that same title for 50.00 or more dollars as a starting bid. Needless to say, they didn't sell. Though laughable, I kind of felt sorry for everybody who were trying to get in on that "bonanza".
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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
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posted June 27, 2009 11:14 PM
Dan ...
I think that John W was mistaken, as a cellar is incapable of driving up anything. Number one, I have never known a cellar to even have a driver's license, let alone be capable of driving, (though this post may be driving some to drink!).
Besides this, being that a cellar tends to be down below, it seems impossible for a cellar to drive up anything. A cellar by nature must be traversed by going downhill. There are steps to take to navigate a cellar.
So, our dear John W. we are most sure that you were mistaken about cellars driving up the prices of films. I doubt even one cellar would have any idea what a price is in the first place, let alone driving it.
... and I'll be darned if a single cellar out there has even watched a single reel of film. Cellar's by nature are sedentary
and stationary.
Cellars are quite good places to grow cellary!
Though, it must be stated, that I haven't picked up a good cellary in quite awhile. It's kind of hard to pick up a good cellary when there are no jobs around!
So, I wouldn't mind a good cellar, given the proper job!
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John W. Black
Jedi Master Film Handler
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From: Deptford,N.J.
Registered: Mar 2008
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posted June 28, 2009 01:36 AM
As I climb up from the cellar, I think Dan well understands what I mean. What SOME not ALL sellers are would be called speculators,you've heard the term I'm sure. As a life long musician and guitarist,I watched these "people" enter into the guitar collecting market and drive prices up to the point to where an average musician couldn't afford a nice vintage guitar because a bunch of suit and tie geeks who wouldn't know the difference between a G string and a G chord had bought up so much of the inventory and wanted prices only the rich could afford. I'm sure some here might think,what's wrong with that? And to anyone who thinks that,you have my pity. And yes boys,there are some dealers on ebay who are trying to do the same and then hide behind the old,the film is worth what the market will bear line. Just because their might be one person who could afford to overpay for a film he wants,that does not make that sale price a starting point for the next print of the same film. But when people start asking $75 for digests,it's getting crazy. And all I'm saying to fellow collectors is I've watched this in other hobbies,have friends who collected other hobbies and were slowly priced out of it by people who cared nothing for the hobby,buy just wanted to profit from it. And we would be terribly naive to think it wouldn't be happening here.
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.....yes I have often wondered if there were ways for folks to have their buddies bid on things just to drive the price up, but it seems like it would be easy to catch those people....As for accusations of which sellers might do something like this i think that can be risky....Venting is one thing.... but accusing without concrete proof should be avoided.
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