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Laksmi Breathwaite
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posted November 30, 2010 11:21 PM

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Here is my 1980's RED FOX SUPERMAN CARTOON{ Billion Dollar Limited) 200 sound color still looking as good as the day I bought it and Marketing Films TEN COMANDMENTS 3X400 reel 3. Can keeping the films cool really help the fading films and keep the color from going pinkish?

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted December 01, 2010 12:16 PM

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Laksmi, the Superman is good!

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Can keeping the films cool really help the fading films and keep the color from going pinkish?

IMHO, cannot. But someone here is trying to put them in fridge. I don;t know if it reallyw orks.

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Laksmi Breathwaite
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posted December 03, 2010 11:31 AM

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Winbert Thanks, I don't know why some of my Supermans look great and others are pinkish? Any way I first saw them in black and white as a kid on a small dish shaped TV. I would like to find B/W copies if I can. Do you know if they have sound B/W copies anywhere?

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Bill Phelps
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posted December 03, 2010 05:35 PM

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Yes there are B/W sound super 8 prints of Superman cartoons. I have three including 'Billion Dollar Limited.'

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Laksmi Breathwaite
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posted December 04, 2010 09:41 PM

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Hey Bill , Would you like to sell one of your B/W prints? Why is BDL still looking GOOD! And were can I buy a non color Sup? Oh Jungle Drums still looks good I have 12 Sup cartoons in my collection.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted December 06, 2010 01:35 PM

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Hi Laksmi,

Your Superman prints are good. I never got chance to get that quality. Is Jungle Drums from Niles? I have the same title from Niles and it is quite red.

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Laksmi Breathwaite
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posted December 08, 2010 10:25 PM

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Hey Winbert , I got all of my prints from Red Fox but the Jungle Drums came from Foster Films in England. It was in a brand new Niles box. Hey I just got a Superman Japoteurs color sound that I just won on eBay and it turned out to be black and white. I was so happy I have never owned a B/W of Sup in my life and it was a misstake . Wow I saw it on those fishbowl TV back in the late 50's as a small child. Any way I'm glad I got it.

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posted December 10, 2010 06:51 PM

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted December 10, 2010 06:53 PM

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. It was in a brand new Niles box.

Is that the blue Niles generic box?

If so, I always got failed to get good color with this box. So you are the lucky one.

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posted December 10, 2010 09:39 PM

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Winbert it was in a Niles blue purple new official box. I guess I got lucky. I also have the ELEVENTH HOUR as well from RED FOX and it has beautiful color and I have had it since the late 80s. Here is my ESB STAR WARS part one that is not so bad.

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posted December 14, 2010 03:03 PM

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This is owned by Peter Van Zand (member of this forum) who comfirms this is from an old print.

Look how beautiful is the color!

So don't get so pesimistic with MGM, some are just beautiful !!

Gigi
Length: 400"
Released by: MGM
Country: USA
Stock: Eastman LPP (??)
Lab: ....
Date of Print: ...

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posted January 07, 2011 03:02 PM

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Early on in this thread I posted decent color pictures from the Ken 3x400' version of The Towering Inferno. Here are some pictures from the 400' digest:

Off topic but interesting is that in the scene where the helicopter explodes on the roof, the last frame of that sequence is frozen and stays onscreen for a few seconds. I recall that either one of the trailers or promos for this film used the same scene with the freeze frame as a background for titles. It's surprising for that to have made it into the digest.

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posted January 07, 2011 10:40 PM

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I can't get over how nice the colors are in your print after nearly 30 years since it's printing. I have Ken titles that are great if you like magenta and amber as the domiant colors in a print.

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posted February 02, 2011 06:19 PM

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Not mine, i got this from youtube of someone taking screen shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asjQ6e6-7EY

This is a very common digest of "Alien", which is also very common to find it has faded.

But his/her reel does still retain colors.

Alien
Length: 400"
Released by: Ken Films
Country: USA
Stock: ??
Lab: ??
Date of Print: ....

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posted September 06, 2011 06:45 AM

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I recently won "Mako" on ebay mostly for the 400' box (since mine had disapeared), and sure enough, the colors are as vibrant as my copy from 1978!

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posted September 06, 2011 01:26 PM

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I recently won "Mako" on ebay mostly for the 400' box (since mine had disapeared), and sure enough, the colors are as vibrant as my copy from 1978!

Carter, I have found "MAKO" for several times and they have always faded. Could you post the screen shots please.

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Pasquale DAlessio
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posted September 06, 2011 02:26 PM

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Winbert

I have that same film with awesome color. I guess once in a while you get a good one.

PatD [Big Grin]

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posted September 07, 2011 01:59 PM

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Boy! That Alien digest has outstanding color! I wonder if it was an Agfa or Fuji print, as I believe that it came out before L.P.P..

I would love to find a Fuji or Agfa version of both parts of that Empire Strikes Back Digest. I have two very good Kodak SP prints of it, that are doing quite well, but you notice that it's started the slightest turning of color in the blacks.

I have to be careful saying that, however, as there were some shots that in the original perfect color prints were slightly browned to begin with.

However, can anyone who has a low fade Empire Strikes Back part 1 put up any screenshots of that digest?

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posted September 08, 2011 09:38 PM

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Screen shots from Star Wars 1 (Ken Film). It is still colorful. Print is not mine, I only took from Ebay. I beleive this is on LPP from 1982.

Star Wars
Length: 400"
Released by: Ken Films
Country: USA
Stock: Kodak LPP
Lab: ....
Date of Print: 1982

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posted September 08, 2011 09:47 PM

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I have this print also. Great color. [Eek!]

[Eek!]

My Empire Strikes Back is the same. [Big Grin]

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posted September 09, 2011 01:08 PM

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Boy! I'd love to find a STAR WARS 400ft with that kind of color, though I have the feature, that digest is a good one for just quick showings!

Part with it?

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posted October 21, 2011 09:35 PM

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From my very nice print of U-8's Earthquake:

Doug

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posted November 26, 2011 11:54 AM

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At the last CineSea, I brought along some recent acquisitions that I hadn't screened yet. One very pleasant surprise was the MGM 400' cutdown of Anchors Aweigh. There's still good color and contrast on this Eastman print. The leader had been replaced, so there's no lab info.

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posted November 26, 2011 12:15 PM

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Nice to see that they included the scenes with Tom and Jerry! ThanX 4 sharing Doug.

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posted February 16, 2012 03:24 PM

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Just came across an old catalog from Reel Images from Sandy Hook, Connecticut going back to July of 1979. They advertised several "Superman" cartoons in Super 8 Sound and 16mm that were only available in B&W. Apparently they only had B&W masters at the time.

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