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Brian Hendel
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: New York, New York
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posted March 25, 2011 11:55 PM

Does anyone know of a place/person who adds sound striping onto silent prints for a charge? I am thinking of adding sound to a few of my old silent digests...

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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God

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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
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posted March 26, 2011 03:08 AM

Brian, this was discussed so often. You should be able to search by putting "striping" as the keywords.

Anyway here are the most related posts:

Striping silent films

Stripping Stripe

Some more info info

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It's EVT Magnetics. Here is price:

The charges to stripe Super 8 film are;
6p per foot main track only 7.5p per foot main and balance stripe
Return postage extra. Payment in U.K by cheque overseas by agreement. Regret do not accept credit cards.

at least Christian has calculated that:

quote:
50' = £4
200' = £12
400' = £24
600' = £36
1200' = £72

cheers,

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Winbert

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Brian Hendel
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: New York, New York
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posted March 26, 2011 10:07 AM

I was hoping someone had a striping service on this side of the pond - so the films didn't have to go all the way to the UK.

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Osi Osgood
Film God

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posted March 26, 2011 10:21 AM

I have one 200ft cartoon I'd like to get striped as well Brian ...

So I add to the refrain ...

Does anybody in the US have one of those striping machines?

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Steve Klare
Film Guy

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From: Long Island, NY, USA
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posted March 26, 2011 10:32 AM

I'm sure there are a lot of striping machines around, and a few people that can operate them. The thing is that striping is kind of an art and there are no second chances if it goes wrong. An old friend of mine actually refused to stripe my films because he said he didn't want to risk messing them up.

For the sake of a couple more dollars and a few more weeks (days?) of shipping time , it's better to send it to EVT and get it done right.

To the best of my knowledge, the last striping service in the USA went out of business about 5 years ago. He was more expensive than EVT, and didn't have the experience Nick has.

Kinda Sad: I heard years ago when you sent your silent cartridges to Kodak for processing, for a little more money they'd stripe them too!

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Wayne Tuell
Master Film Handler

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posted March 27, 2011 12:30 AM

There is a machine on fleabay right now reasonably cheap.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Weberling-Duo-Sound-DS-240-Striping-Machine-Super-8-/250791791401?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a645b0b29

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Osi Osgood
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posted March 27, 2011 09:12 AM

The other question would have to be, even owning one of these striping machines, coming up with the actual stripe could be a problem as well. Sometimes these are sold with 50ft or 200ft worth of stripe, and other times without, and that stripe, (I would think) is rather hard to come by.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted March 28, 2011 03:52 PM

Hi Brian from your original post you never mentioned that you were looking something in the USA.

But as other has mentioned, no more in the USA so you just need to rely the EVT in the UK.

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There is a machine on fleabay right now reasonably cheap

Buying own stripping machine without the availability of the magnetic stripping tape is just like having a gun without bullets...it is useless.

I don't believe that this kind of stripping tape is still being manufactured. I think EVT has a large stock to enough keep it running the business for years from now. But once it is gone, then it's gone

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Lee Mannering
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From: The Projection Box
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posted March 29, 2011 04:49 AM

I have one of the old Cresta machines somewhere............

erm cant find it.

[ November 03, 2011, 04:31 AM: Message edited by: Lee Mannering ]

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Nathan DeHahn
Film Handler

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From: Racine, WI
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posted March 29, 2011 06:49 AM

I found the website that actually sell super 8 mag. tapes at low price and some glue that sticks the track on any reversal stocks.Here is the link: http://www.wittner-kinotechnik.de/katalog/03_verbr/d_s8mm.php

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted March 29, 2011 11:08 AM

Hi Nathan thanks the link.

The question is, will it stick to polyester or acetate base? many reversal film is polyester but commercial film from 1970s is on acetate.

It is a kinda hard to make a strip, sometime after couple screening, the stripe will peel of from the film.

BTW, although that website still sell brand new magnetic stripes, bu they are made by ORWO (was an East Germany company which is obvipously had closed down) and AGFA which wikipedia says

quote:
"In the past, Agfa film and cameras were prominent consumer products. However, in 2004, the consumer imaging division was sold to a company founded via management buyout. AgfaPhoto GmbH, as the new company was called, filed for bankruptcy after just one year.

So the condition is like I said above, "once it is gone, is gone"

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Nathan DeHahn
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posted March 29, 2011 06:48 PM

You're welcome. I believe that wittner brought a big stock of mag. tapes from Orwo when it came out of business, I am not sure if i am correct. The Mag. tape should stick on both acetate and polyester.

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Joerg Polzfusz
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posted March 30, 2011 04:38 AM

All "home striping devices" only work for acetate-based filmstocks. They will not work for any polyester-based filmstocks.

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Joerg Polzfusz
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posted March 30, 2011 07:05 AM

quote:
I was hoping someone had a striping service on this side of the pond

IMHO the last company that offers striping on the american continent is this one: http://www.agflaboratorios.com.br/

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Flavio Stabile
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posted October 25, 2011 07:11 AM

Hi,

just wondering if EVT Magnetics in UK is still offering the striping services for Super 8 movies.

I tried some days ago to contact them by email at this address maltfilm@amserve.com (Nick?) that I found on another post in the forum, but none answered me so far.

Any alternative service possibly in Europe?

Thanks
F.

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Joerg Polzfusz
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posted October 25, 2011 10:46 AM

quote:
just wondering if EVT Magnetics in UK is still offering the striping services for Super 8 movies.

Good question.

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I tried some days ago to contact them by email at this address maltfilm@amserve.com (Nick?) that I found on another post in the forum, but none answered me so far.

The whole "amserve.com" seems to be gone from the internet. Hence I guess that Nick Maltezos now has got a new (secret) eMail-address.

Alternatives in Germany:
http://www.fipra.de/
http://www.filmbespurung.de/
Chris Filmtechnik GmbH (no internet, only telephone/fax)
http://www.fett-video.de/

Jörg

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Flavio Stabile
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posted October 25, 2011 11:50 AM

Hi Joerg

thanks for the very useful information!

I have just checked the prices on 'fibra' and 'fett-video' web sites and noticed they ask differente price, and this is normal.

Indeed I'm surprised about the cost which is about 0,49-0,65 eur per a double track per meter!
This means tha a 180mt reel costs about 88,2-117 eur!

At the beginnig of this post there is a quotation from EVT where a 600 reel should cost 36 pounds, which considerably lower...

I'm quiet confused and also a bit disappointed... [Frown]

Flavio

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Joerg Polzfusz
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posted October 26, 2011 05:14 AM

Hi,

prices per meter for stereo at fipra range from 0,40 EUR (Orwo tape without milling) to 1,10 EUR (Agfa tape incl. milling), at Jäger (Filmbespurung.de) it's 0,30 EUR (Orwo tape without milling), at Fett it's 0,49 EUR (Agfa tape without milling). EvT (if still in business) is using "liquid paste" instead of tapes.

Jörg

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William Mouroukas
Film Handler

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From: Sydney - Australia
Registered: Oct 2011

posted November 02, 2011 08:38 PM

Can anyone provide an opinion on the 'Liquid Paste' sound stripe system? How good is it performance wise and longevity? Is tape a better system?

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Adrian Winchester
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posted November 02, 2011 09:02 PM

I've heard that the EVT gentleman has retired, so I suppose that means no more striping services in the UK.

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Larry Arpin
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posted November 03, 2011 12:38 AM

Did he junk his striping machine also? Or is it available for sale?

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Bill Brandenstein
Phenomenal Film Handler

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posted November 03, 2011 07:41 PM

Go Larry! (woot woot)

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Joerg Polzfusz
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posted November 09, 2011 03:01 AM

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I've heard that the EVT gentleman has retired, so I suppose that means no more striping services in the UK.

There are some rumours that his son now runs EVT... maybe I should simply try the old telephone-number the next days...

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