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Topic: Bye bye Ektachrome 100D
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Jake Mayes
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 119
From: Bath, UK
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 12, 2012 02:07 PM
I have been attempting to contact ADOX with regards to respooling velvia or other Fuji stocks, something that is viable for UK import, Gauge Film, whom i buy alot of my super 8 100D film off is going to look into other reversal stocks, for small buisnesses this is a low blow. But kodak gave us all another kick in the teeth by replacing it with a NEGATIVE FILM, super 8 already had two, i wanted Vision 3 50D on super-8, but to replace Ektachrome 100D with it!!!! Wrong! So getting Andec to make a positive print is my only other option! A big, gaping gap.
I am more concerned for the small businesses as well.
EDIT: I have also sent a personal email to Fuji's motion picture and photographic film department, hopefully they might consider stepping in and filling the void, even loading Velvia 100 and/or Provia 400X. V100 would be preferred as most cameras can meter for that effectively. I mentioned it also affected users of 16mm and regular 8 as well.
[ December 12, 2012, 09:40 PM: Message edited by: Jake Mayes ]
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Jake Mayes
Expert Film Handler
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From: Bath, UK
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 13, 2012 06:24 AM
Double post of me,
I contacted Fujifilm with regards to super-8 and respooling, they got back to me very quickly, with the following reply and recommendation:
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Hello Jacob
Thanks for your email. Unfortunately, Fujifilm left the Super 8mm market many years ago and sadly Fujifilm have now recently decided to leave the 16mm and 35mm market. We are no longer producing motion picture film in any format. Our factory closed in September. We are currently selling off all of our remaining stocks at low prices before we finally close our doors on 28th march 2013. All of our stock are available to buy online at: http://www.filmstockclearance.com/
In regards to your 8mm transparency re-cutting and re-spooling request. I have heard of a third party company who have been cutting down our 100ft lengths of 35mm Velvia and re-spooling for 8mm. It was badged in a box which very closely resembled our Fujifilm packaging. I can't remember the name of this product (you may already be aware of it), but your best option is to try The Wide Screen Centre in London as this is the place to go for all things 8mm: http://www.widescreen-centre.co.uk/Catalogue/Kodak_Super_8_Film.html
If you're looking for someone to cut down bigger film rolls and re-spool to 8mm for you, I know the guys at the film art collective, NO.W.HERE, and I'm sure they know someone who can offer this service. Try contacting James Holcombe there: james.holcombe@no-w-here.org.uk - web address is: http://www.no-w-here.org.uk/
Good luck in your search.
Kind Regards
Jerry
I have contacted my usual dealer about James Holcombe, but maybe we should all show interest and demand for an easily obtainable respooled product native to the UK and the likes. By showing we still demand an easily obtainable colour reversal film that most dealers can stock, makes it more likely we could have another affordable reversal option, and with more Fuji Reversal Film being bought for this purpose it would increase Fuji's Sales and help to ensure reversal film is still available for the time being.
Jacob
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Jake Mayes
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 119
From: Bath, UK
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 14, 2012 08:05 PM
From what i have heard, wittner is going to be loading another 100D cartridge (Velvia 100 stock?) I need to set the record straight, not so much to guys on here but on many motion picture forums, that Fuji are still manufacturing still reversal at present, as many seem to think fuji have stopped making reversal alltogether. Their motion picture division is closed though. I shoot Velvia as a still film, and also process it. If velvia 100 is going to be used in S8 cartridges as well, then it will further increase demand for it, aiding Fuji to continue making it.
The loss of ektachrome 100D is sad, but we are living in an experience, that is why we are born and are here in the first place, to experience! and there are many more experiences to be had! One door closes but another always opens, although I did express my displeasure and was cheesed off for a day or two! Hopefully wittner's 100D stock will be a viable option for those who shoot colour reversal, myself included. Hopefully it can be well marketed as well, and stocked by our usual suppliers, as newcomers to super-8 usually want to project their results straight away.
I have also been trying to help the small business I buy from find alternatives and work out strategies now ektachrome 100D is gone, i do not want to see someone's lively hood sink! I always like to support small businesses, i have seen so many of them fall, one was a local shop i could get darkroom paper from, i always bought my paper there to support the business, but the council demanding 6 months rent upfront sunk the business and i bought their last pack of 5x7 paper. They sold filters, lenses and that sort of thing as well, and also many B/W films.
50D I can also make use of, for some applications... Wittner's 100D cartridge is promising because otherwise we would be limited to their velvia 50ASA, and the extra stop of speed is important to me for many applications, some shooting conditions I shoot in would fall apart with a single stop of speed loss on reversal. I shoot 500T negative in the event i am at a poorly-lit event, taking advantage of its great latitude, and have Andec make a positive print. I could not afford to do this on any large scale though. 50D I will use is extreme resolution is important.
If E100Ds replacement is not to anyone's taste, do put it out that Andec CAN make positive super 8 prints from negative, because many i spoke to seem to think it cannot be printed anymore until i mentioned Andec and its wet gate prints. Cost is the big problem here.
They cannot make super-8 internegatives from reversal positives though, they could do a 16mm one, at high price and make super-8 prints from that, i never knew until they mentioned it a super-8 print could be made from a 16mm negative affordably today! I wanted an internegative made of my 18th as a fall back. They cannot sound-stripe the prints, as they are on polyester stock... E.V.T magnetics when I spoke to them said they could attempt it, however. I spoke to them the day before kodak announced 100D's end!
Poor marketing is another thing that caused 100Ds demise, a stationmaster came up to me and said 'is that super-8?!' and i went 'yeah it is' and he said 'you can still buy the film?' and i got into an indepth conversation about it, and he was amazed as he thought it had long gone! Nearly missed my connecting train... Many thought the same way, and i got looks on the train with the camera. Many did not even know that negative even existed on super-8, i thought the opposite when i was younger like 6 or 7 thinking reversal did not exist,
'grandad where is the negatives for your super 8 film? so you can make more copies'
'no negatives, i sent the cartridge to kodak and they developed that'
'there has to be a negative for a positive how are you supposed to make more'
'It is 'reversal' jake' and got an indepth explanation, as all i knew at that time was negative -> positive process.
Reversal to me is magic because I can get my hands involved, negative involves weeks of waiting, and none of that satisfaction, although projecting the result is still fun and works well! I like to know that the film running through the projector, apart from the physical film itself was made by my hands! And cost!
I like super 8 as a story telling medium as well as a film collecting (and viewing) medium!
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WHY WHY WHY! Getting a print made by andec I do for some stuff, but for others i prefer to develop my own reversal due to cost! ugh... If i had the money I would stock up... Vision 50D is all well and good... but why axe reversal formats?! its not like there is not a market for them!
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