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Tom Photiou
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From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted June 10, 2013 03:18 PM
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After all my years of collecting pampering and cleaning my collection i was so dismayed at seeing some of my best films with mould getting into them, but only the ones on the Elmo metal reels in crappy card boxes,
Ive kept them all in the same place in a dark room for the last thirteen years, i keep dates of when they are cleaned and viewed, all cleaned with film guard, some as recently as two years ago, short of bringing them all upstiars at normall room tempretures i cant think of what else to do. They are all now cleaned again, (i really dont want to over do the cleaning)Its very odd as the room i use for films is my dedicated,carpeted room below our living room at the front of the house, it is also central heated when i do put the house heating on, the films,(in my picture) are on a wall which backs onto the living quaters to my neighbour so that is an insulated wall, elp!!!!!
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Hugh Thompson Scott
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From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
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posted June 10, 2013 05:00 PM
Try and get hold of some silicagel Tom, the little sachets that
usually come with electrical items, as this absorbs moisture.
Try to avoid any storage against an outside wall,especially a non
cavity solid stone/brick wall.A simple solution is a through-vent
to the outside that will let air circulate.Gas fires are a source of dampness appearing on walls/ceilings etc, as it is a moist heat.
An open fire or electric heating won't cause problems either,but
the room must have ventilation.Think of a house much the same as yourself,it must be allowed to breathe or problems will
appear.Even your own presence in an unventilated room will
cause dampness,as you're giving of moisture in body heat &
exhalation, and this moisture will make for the coolest part of your room to condensate.A little trick my Mum used to do with
biscuits in the biscuit barrel, to keep them crisp,was to place a
cube of sugar to absorb moisture, wrapped up, it could help your problem with your films in cans etc.
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Tom Photiou
Film God
Posts: 4837
From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted June 11, 2013 02:15 PM
Silly Gel now ordered, thank you all, here is an update with some images i took tonight to hopefully give all a good understanding of the layout of the film room, its curruntly being cleared out completley so i can start again,
First picture is at the bottom of the stairs which is below ground at the front but slopes to ground level at the back with the door shown to the garden at the rear, the first door to the right is the film room, the second door to the right is the garage which does get plenty of air, Do you like the hand painted Disney characters? we did that ten years ago to brighten up the basement and make it more of a movie area,oh and that christmas thing is always there
this next image shows just inside the door, the room to the left of wall behind the projector is the garage, the window between the film room and garage is a sealed unit so i think we need to make this an opening window which will allow air in,
This is the screen end, obviously ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) , Behind the screen is a false partition and behind that is the main front house wall below the ground level at the front, to the two lower ends are plastic vents, if you tap the wall in the black area its hollow.
Here is the projector area just inside the door, the sealed window is behinf the picture, the film storage area has all films six inches from the wall, the wall is the dividing wall between my house and next door and that room next door is a converted living room, it was the basement and garage, i have empty plastic cases against the wall at the far end so the first film is two in, all films are at leaset six inches off the wall at the backs.The shelves are wood, the area where the figures are is the base of the chimney brest and all the chimney pots are capped, one with a vent for the gas fire upstirs which is never used as we have gas fired central heating.
And finally a low shot showing the room is carpeted with a central heating radiator to the left, (out of shot) which is rarly used.
All said and done last September the house next door was altered and the lower area next to this room was changed from basement to living area and im not convinced our new problems arnt related to work done as the whole floor next door would have had a damp proof membrane put down before the new floor was laid. The light spots on the wall are where i painted some patches and didnt match the paint, ![[Embarrassed]](redface.gif) So at the moment the mould is restricted to 1200 Elmo reel and the speakers by the screen but i clean every week in here now to keep an eye and hopefully the scilly gel will help.
Any other views would be welcomed.
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Hugh Thompson Scott
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From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
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posted June 11, 2013 04:34 PM
Very nicely done Tom,a great space to call one's own and enjoy
your films. Those murals must've taken a bit of time painting,
now that's what I call a cine buff.
As for your damp problem,it seems to me that it could be sorted out very simply.The builders that have capped the chimney, and
left no ventilation in that breast,should have their arses kicked.
By doing so,they leave the possibility of dry rot formation,which
just needs damp, still air to form.Assuming the "feathers" are sound, (they are the dividing walls between your chimney flues)
it would be a simple task to put proper flue vents on the chimney and a plaster or plastic vent in the room.Chances are
if it is an older property,then the feathering could have gapped
or crumbled,which would mean a flexible flue liner to any gas
appliances using that chimney to avoid any flue gases coming
into room.A golden rule in the building trade is, all chimney flues must be vented.Hope this helps.
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Tom Photiou
Film God
Posts: 4837
From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted June 26, 2013 12:12 PM
Hi Robert, well, now you mention it, in years gone by i always used 222 myself but over the last four years we have cleaned all 350 of our movies using Film Guard and as i understand it they pretty much stay wet(ish), i do think that my problem is to do with our chimneys being capped off with only one of the four pots being vented, ive since checked the whole room (corners etc) but these are all ok, oddly enough the only reels effected are the dozen or so on metal Elmo 1200ft spools, all the others are unaffected, we now have a very nice supply of silica gel packs all around the films, (top and behind the films) and in corners, all discreetly placed out of view. Fingers crossed once i get the ventilation sorted we should be OK.
OHHHH, i did forget to mention one thing and i think this may almost certainly have been a factor, take a look at this image here,,,,,
You see the washing line?
Well, with the horrid winter of virtualy non stop rain we had from September to April meant that we were using this line to hang up fresh washing, almost on a daily basis, with the movie room shown here as the first door on the right clearly this is going cause some problems, How stupid am i not to even think of this ![[Frown]](frown.gif) , i am now banning all washing being hung up indoors.
[ June 26, 2013, 03:02 PM: Message edited by: Tom Photiou ]
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