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Topic: Too much digital on the Forum? (Topic change)
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Mark Todd
Film God
Posts: 3846
From: UK
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted August 01, 2015 08:08 PM
I`ll be upfront here and say I think Digital movie viewing is one of the best things to happen regarding watching films in the home, And after all its about appreciating the actual film itself.
I watched some cracking foreign films lately and Netflix and Amazon via My LCD projector and they were amazing. Not the image as such, the actual films themselves, and much added to as watched 10 feet wide.
But this is a forum full of like minded people who love real films first and foremost, but then do enjoy Digital as well.
Gernally speaking we are all getting on a bit though and the hobby needs some new people, younger people to get on board, and they may trip in to our hobby from a digital point.
Now, unless you have unlimited funds you can`t really have a good enough turn round on real film, and a few of us still have kids as well, me as I became a parent later in life.
I don`t think the film side of things here has anything to worry about at all and the general yak section really makes the forum more interesting, and not really because of digital particularly.
A broader spread with more interest is more likely to keep people coming here. The magic of real film is in the middle of it and the driving force, but I think the magic of that is strong enough survive a few digital based posts etc.
One of the nicest posts in general Yak lately was about real film, sadly its demise on 35mm, but still a great post.
Also lets not forget that families and people with a digital projector are now again sitting down together to watch a film, lights off, sharing the experiance etc, its great.
There is a core of regular people on here who love real film, and its just a cracking little forum.
For all its negative effects here and there, Digital has actually increased interest in film watching, even in real film. You look on any Blu Ray forum etc and film grain, origional film elements are talked about regarding HD etc in a way they simply weren`t a few years ago.
Don`t worry anyone on here regarding real film, its what it is, its here to stay but everything moves along a bit as time goes on as well.
Best Mark.
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Paul Adsett
Film God
Posts: 5003
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted August 01, 2015 10:58 PM
I totally agree with Mark's comments. Digital projection in the home is a wonderful thing. We now have picture quality and sound quality as good as any professional digital cinema, and tens of thousands of films to choose from. My wife and I watch a digital projected move about three times a week, and it is always an enjoyable experience. The PQ and sound is for the most part amazing, and even some of the streamed movies off YouTube can make for a good viewing. The Super 8mm will always be there for me to enjoy its particular magic, and yes Disney S8 prints are IMO better than the blu ray's. So for me, its a great time to be a home showman.
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Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade
Eumig S938 Stereo f1.0 Ektar
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Steve Klare
Film Guy
Posts: 7016
From: Long Island, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted August 02, 2015 06:57 AM
Modern video is the chance for people to enjoy motion pictures in their home. It is cheap, it is easy, it is reliable, it is readily available.
-all great things.
What it lacks is challenge. My son has been using a DVD player since he was in pre-school. The picture is great because the picture is always great. Every department store, supermarket, convenience store and rummage sale has disks by the ton.
So this is a wonderful consumer medium but it's a little light on the hobby side: nothing to build, nothing to find, not really anything to maintain or repair.
There's nothing wrong with this by the way. There comes a moment when it's getting really late and I just can't face pulling down the screen, finding films, threading up the projector(s), turning on the amp watching the film(s) and then putting it all back.
-how nice to flop on the couch and grab a remote! (-or just read a book.)
It's just when I really need that shot of endorphins, this is just too passive to do it.
It explains why a guy drives past a supermarket on the way to and then from the lake to spend the day fishing. There's a respectable chance he'll return home without a fish, and the fish at the market are perfectly good. They are also a lot cheaper when you factor in the boat, trolling motor and fishing tackle.
-but the fish is not really the point: it's the challenge.
(Worse comes to worse he can stop by the market on the way home, maybe buy a steak instead...)
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All I ask is a wide screen and a projector to light her by...
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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God
Posts: 5468
From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted August 02, 2015 10:15 AM
Can we emphasize on "collector" to describe who we are?
Similar to VW Buggy collector they are not driving this buggy everyday nor thinking owning a new VW is a sin. So although tla collector rides a new VW, he/she will not get rid their old VW buggy.
I am not going to debate between (the quality of) digital vs film but it is already proven, we collected VHS/Betamax, then LD, later DVD and now BluRay...they are going to rubbish bin eventually when the new format arrive.
DVDs (120 minutes F/L, color full, stereo, scratch free) are now sold from 50 cents to a dollar at thrift stores.
What do you price for your 200' (6 minute, color fade, mono sound, scratchy) of Tom & Jerry? At least $10.
I am using these digital formats at home for my daily entertainment but collecting super 8mm film for me is more precious since they have a long shelf live.
With all due respects, my VHS/Betamax have gone somewhere as well as my DVDs. My LDs are still here with me due to the size eqv. with LPs (my other collection), it looks nice to see them sit side by side. But I am not going to collect BluRay (read: collecting not watching), just rent or buy second hand for one time used as disposable item.
cheers,
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Winbert
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