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Topic: Interlacing problem
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Bill Vendasi
Film Handler
Posts: 45
From: Dover, NH, USA
Registered: Apr 2015
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posted March 21, 2016 06:27 PM
Hello all, been a while.
My project/goal is putting 8mm films on DVDs for family members.
I spent over a year on this as I started without a clue, but
with the help and advice from several here, I'm very close to finished - at least I hope so.
Here's my process and problem:
Using my Sony DV camera and WinDV, I filmed and transferred my old 8mm films to AVI files on the PC. The quality isn't great but
if the DVDs look the same, I will be satisfied.
I did tons of editing with VirtualDub and some processing with AVISynth, and the result is a 2 hour movie/AVI file.
This file plays fine on my PC, although I can often see tiny artifacts during movement, which from what I've read and been told, seems to be an interlacing issue.
It's ok though because the AVI is watchable as-is. But when I burn to DVD the result is serious combing artifacts.
It will take me a LONG time to start all over again, so is there anything I can do to get a DVD without the awful jagged lines?
Here's what I've tried so far:
I burned the AVI directly to DVD with Nero.
I converted the AVI to VOB files using AVStoDVD, then I tried burning with both Nero and ImgBurn.
Then I converted the AVI to MPEG2 using AVStoDVD, then burned again.
Any advice would be great.
I have a clip of the AVI to post but I'm not sure how that's done here.
Thanks,
Bill
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Bill Vendasi
Film Handler
Posts: 45
From: Dover, NH, USA
Registered: Apr 2015
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posted March 22, 2016 04:44 PM
"What AVI codec did you capture to and what codec did you export to? As Brian has already said...AVI is just a wrapper...there are several codecs that can be used. By any chance did you output to a Divx or Xvid codec? These are heavily compressed codecs that will leave artifacts.
Also...Virtual Dub has de-interlacing filters."
Hi Janice,
Sorry to say the answer to all your questions is I don't know.
I barely understand what a codec is. Is there a way for me to check?
Re: VDub - so maybe I can deinterlace the clips in VDub?
Edit:
Well ---
I just tried the standard deinterlace filter in VDub and by
j$!#s it worked! The DVD still shows some rough stuff during movement, plus it's very old footage and my capture is pretty lousy, but above all - it's watchable. No more jagged lines!
Janice, I can't thank you enough.
I've been on another forum for months (you know the one) and several big-shots there enjoyed slamming me good for my 'lack of knowledge and stupid questions' before actually giving some helpful advice. But not one person even suggested something as simple as the DI filter in VDub.
You are the goods, my dear.
The real test will be the final full 2hr DVD movie played on several stand alone players, but so far so good here on my two
machines. Fingers crossed.
Thank you again and again.
[ March 22, 2016, 06:53 PM: Message edited by: Bill Vendasi ]
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Mathew James
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 740
From: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Dec 2014
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posted March 23, 2016 08:43 AM
Hi Bill,
Two other programs to perhaps mention are handbrake and ripbot. I use both regularly.
After making my AVI's or Vob's using either DVDfab or DVDdecrypter(depending on situation and source), I then use either handbrake or ripbot to create the final.
Handbrake does a good job, and also has a better feature i like than deinterlacing called decombing. You can see a preview of the film created(5secs,10sc,30secs...) before ripping to test quality first.
Ripbot takes a bit more getting use to but yield great results. It also has a preview window to see how deinterlacing works.
Another feature i use wit hhandbrake as a trial sometimes is detelecine, which sometimes works better at getting rid of combing lines.
You can read about the differences in the filters here-
https://trac.handbrake.fr/wiki/DeinterlacingGuide
Whatever you chose, I hope it works out for you.... You can get a slider to move to increase quality with these two programs, and depending on patience and harddrive space, you can also move the slider into the 'placebo' zone(meaning super slow renders that improve quality...but probably cannot be detected by our eyes, thus placebo). I think the lossless codec Janice suggests can be installed and used in these as well, but i haven't tried that yet... The in-program codec's seem to work for me but i am willing to try anything if it improves the output...
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Mathew James
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 740
From: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Dec 2014
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posted March 23, 2016 10:06 AM
for avi containers in handbrake, try going source,video file ... rather than,say, source,file or source,folder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkoyQAXzSPA
If this doesn't work, you can try ripbot which demuxes files upon opening, which may help to open it. I hope it works out and it sounds like you got it under control for now.
For the motion jerk issues, i find this has more to do with bitrate settings. I don't like to leave it as 'auto', but try to find the sources bitrate and set it to match as close as possible. Also, fiddling with the fps setting. Sometimes again for me, auto doesn't detect properly and i fiddle with the framerate to try to match the source.
So many programs, so many settings, so little time!
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Matt 📽
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