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Winbert Hutahaean
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(the post has been edited with the recent acquisition)

I always try to complete my Tom & Jerry and I have now reached 111 episodes from 120 titles that I knew available on 8mm.

Some titles are released by Derann that they are housed in white boxes or an white boxes with generic pictures glued on that. Other are from Film Office that are always with red generic boxes. The most interesting artworks are from Walton which always come with full color pictures taken from the episode. Some of my TJs are from MGM which have similar art works attraction.

There are some title released by obscure companies and some just simply blank without any information to who have released them.

So since my TJ has reached 111 titles, and they came with different type of boxes and artworks, I have then decided to make my own box, directly printed on the box it self...so no sticking glue is used.

The artworks is following the design created for Walton. I make my own catalog number after the original Walton's cat# from TJ1 - TJ30.

So here is now my TJ's library with uniform box design and cat#

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They are as follows:

TJ01 Posse Cat
TJ02 His Mouse Friday
TJ03 Tennis Chumps
TJ04 Cruise Cat
TJ05 The Truce Hurts
TJ06 Cat Fishin'
TJ07 The Mouse Comes to Dinner
TJ08 The Milky Waif
TJ09 Jerry and the Goldfish
TJ10 Dr Jekyl and Mr Mouse
TJ11 Two Mousketeers
TJ12 Triplet Trouble
TJ13 Saturday Evening Puss
TJ14 Proffessor Tom
TJ15 Cue Ball Cat
TJ16 Jerry and Jumbo
TJ17 Tee for Two
TJ18 Casanova Cat
TJ19 Cat Napping
TJ20 Solid Serenade
TJ21 The Cat Concerto
TJ22 Johann Mouse
TJ23 Million Dollar Cat
TJ24 Baby Butch
TJ25 The Yankee Doodle Mouse
TJ26 The Night Before Christmas
TJ27 Puttin' on the Dog
TJ28 Love That Pup
TJ29 Flying Cat
TJ30 Hollywood Bowl
TJ31 Snowbody Loves me
TJ32 Trap Happy
TJ33 Little Runaway
TJ34 Blue Cat Blues
TJ35 Southbound Duckling
TJ36 The Lonesome Mouse
TJ37 Fraidy Cat
TJ38 The A-Tom-Inable Snowmam
TJ39 Jerry-Go-Round
TJ40 Happy Go Ducky
TJ41 The Flying Sorceress
TJ42 Designs on Jerry
TJ43 Barbecue Brawl
TJ44 Bowling Alley-Cat
TJ45 The Cat and the mermouse
TJ46 Jerry's Cousin
TJ47 That's my pup
TJ48 Little Quacker
TJ49 Fine Feathered Friend
TJ50 Pup on a picnic
TJ51 Push button kitty
TJ52 Heavenly Puss
TJ53 Mouse Cleaning
TJ54 The cat's me-ouch
TJ55 Mouse trouble
TJ56 Bad day at the cat rock
TJ57 The Duck doctor
TJ58 Timid Tabby
TJ59 Feedin' the kiddie
TJ60 Salt water tabby
TJ61 Texas Tom
TJ62 Sleepy time tom
TJ63 Mouse for sale
TJ64 Pet Peeve
TJ65 Quiet Please!
TJ66 Mice Follies
TJ67 Purr-Chance to dream
TJ68 The Egg And Jerry
TJ69 Of Feline Bondage
TJ70 Filet Meow
TJ71 Matinee Mouse
TJ72 Mouse In Manhattan
TJ73 Flirty Birdy
TJ74 Calypso Cat
TJ75 Polka-Dot Puss
TJ76 Baby Puss
TJ77 Kitty Foiled
TJ78 Jerry and the Lion
TJ79 The Missing Mouse
TJ80 Down Beat Bear
TJ81 Tom and Cherie
TJ82 Royal Cat Nip
TJ83 Robin Hoodwinked
TJ84 Mucho Mouse
TJ85 Safety Second
TJ86 The Invisible Mouse
TJ87 O-Solar-Meow
TJ88 Puss Gets the Boot
TJ89 Busy Buddies
TJ90 Dog House (La niche de bouledogue)
TJ91 Dog Trouble
TJ92 Fit to be Tied
TJ93 Life with Tom (Mon Ami Tom)
TJ94 Little Orphan
TJ95 Much Ado about Mousing
TJ96 Old Rockin' Chair Tom
TJ97 Part Time Pal
TJ98 Peco's pest
TJ99 Penthouse Mouse
TJ100 It's Greek to Meow
TJ101 Tops with Pops
TJ102 Smarty Cat
TJ103 Framed Cat, The
TJ104 Just Ducky
TJ105 Mouse in the House
TJ106 Nit Witty Kitty
TJ107 Slicked Up Pup
TJ108 Puppy Tale
TJ109 Springtime for Thomas
TJ110 Touché, Pussy Cat!
TJ111 Two Little Indians

(ps: TJ 22 & TJ23 are not available from Walton so these 2 cat# are still mystery since TJ 24 -TJ30 are available from Walton. So TJ 22 & 23 on the above list are my own made up numbers)

Here some pictures of my own design:

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The 11 titles are not yet on the above list as follows:

1. Duel Personality 1966
2. Jerry's Diary 1949
3. Little School Mouse 1954
4. Muscle Beach Tom 1956
5. Neapolitan Mouse 1954
6. Puss 'N' Toots 1942
7. Vanishing Duck 1958
8. Haunted Mouse
9. Hic-cup Pup
10. Cat Above The Mouse Below, The
11. Bodyguard, The

So with the above score, unless someone can show me the otherwise, I can now declare my self as a man with the most complete Tom & Jerry episodes on super 8mm in the world ! [Big Grin] [Razz]

[ October 04, 2016, 03:57 AM: Message edited by: Winbert Hutahaean ]

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Wow, you are a collecting God, Winbert. I collect the Tom and Jerrys but I have nothing like this and am still trying to complete the Walton set. I didn't realise there were so many released and assumed that there were more 'duplicate' releases by the various companies that released them. Seems I have a long way to go...

I also love that you have given the Derann and Film Office prints a 'Walton re-release.' Very clever!

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That is a fantastic collection! It is always fun to see pictures of other people's film libraries. And the boxes and cover art are as great as you say.

I am wondering if you can name your all-time favorite T&J episode?

Thank you for sharing the pictures!

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You certainly beat my 27, by a long mile. I hadn't counted them before your post so I was surprised by how many I actually have as some were bought on composite reels.

By the way great labels on your own design boxes!!

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quote:
So here is now my TJ's library with uniform box design and cat#
-so why doesn't the MOUSE get a number?

(... [Wink] )

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Magnificent Winbert, you're attention to details is to be applauded. Compared to you, I'd have to have the top title, "Top Super 8mm slob!", as I don't have to much to do with original boxes or re-creating them, but this has been a great labor of love for you!

Congratulations, and best wishes on finding those rare titles! [Smile]

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That is a superb set you have collected there Winbert, well done.

At one stage I had about 90 T&J's on Super 8 then things got complicated as I bought many again on 16mm and a couple on 35mm too.

The ones you list at the end if they are your remaining wants I can help you with some of those titles on Super 8.

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Congratulations !

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Jim Schrader
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Winbert, I have 105 super 8 titles 116 if I add the 16mm titles but they don't count [Smile]
Here is my list I don't have a lot of the chuck Jones era titles mostly the Hanna Barbera years 41-58
The Midnight Snack 16mm
Puss Gets The Boot super 8
The Night Before Christmas super 8
Fraidy Cat super 8
Dog Trouble  super 8
Puss N' Toots  super 8
Bowling Alley Cat super 8
Fine Feathered Friend super 8
Sufferin' Cats 16MM
Lonesome Mouse super 8
The Yankee Doodle Mouse super 8
Baby Puss super 8
Zoot Cat 16MM
The Million Dollar Cat  super 8
The Body Guard 16MM
Puttin' on the Dog 16MM
Puttin' on the Dog super 8
Mouse Trouble  super 8
The Mouse Comes To Dinner super 8
Mouse In Manhattan  super 8
Tee For Two  super 8
Flirty Birdy super 8
Quiet Please!  super 8
Springtime For Thomas  super 8
The Milky Waif  super 8
Trap Happy super 8
Solid Serenade  super 8
Cat Fishin'  super 8
Part-Time Pal super 8
The Cat Concerto  super 8
Dr. Jekyll And Mr. Mouse super 8
Salt Water Tabby  super 8
A Mouse In The House  super 8
The Invisible Mouse  super 8
Kitty Foiled  super 8
The Truce Hurts super 8
Old Rockin' Chair Tom  super 8
Professor Tom  super 8
Mouse Cleaning  super 8
Polka Dot Puss super 8
The Little Orphan  super 8
Hatch Up Your Troubles  super 8
Heavenly Puss  super 8
The Cat And The Mermouse super 8
Love That Pup super 8
Jerry's Diary super 8
Tennis Chumps  super 8
Little Quacker  super 8
Saturday Evening Puss  super 8
Texas Tom super 8
Jerry and the Lion super 8
Safety Second  super 8
The Hollywood Bowl  super 8
The Framed Cat  super 8
Cueball Cat super 8
Casanova Cat super 8
Jerry and the Goldfish super 8
Jerry's Cousin super 8
Sleepy Time Tom super 8
His Mouse Friday super 8
Slicked up Pup super 8
Nit-Witty Kitty super 8
Cat Napping super 8
The Flying Cat super 8
Duck Doctor super 8
Two Mouseketeers super 8
Smitten Kitten 16MM
Triplet Trouble super 8
Little Runaway super 8
Fit to be Tied super 8
Push Button Kitty super 8
Cruise Cat super 8
Cabin Cruise super 8
The Dog House super 8
Missing Mouse super 8
Jerry and Jumbo super 8
Johann Mouse super 8
That's my Pup super 8
Just Ducky super 8
Two Little Indians super 8
Life with Tom super 8
Puppy Tale super 8
Posse Cat super 8
Hiccup Pup 16MM
Little Red School Mouse super 8
Baby Butch super 8
Mice Follies super 8
Neapolitan Mouse super 8
Downhearted Duckling  16MM
Pet Peeve super 8
Touché, Pussy Cat! super 8
Southbound Duckling super 8
Pup on a Picnic super 8
Mouse for Sale super 8
Designs on Jerry super 8
Tom and Cheri super 8
Smarty Cat super 8
Pecos Pest super 8
That's my Mommy 16MM
The Flying Sorceress super 8
The Egg and Jerry super 8
Busy Buddies super 8
Muscle Beach Tom super 8
Down Beat Bear super 8
Blue Cat Blues super 8
Barbecue Brawl super 8
Tops with Pops super 8
Timid Tabby super 8
Feedin’ the Kiddie super 8
Mucho Mouse super 8
Tom's Photo Finish 16MM
Happy Go Ducky super 8
Royal Cat Nap super 8
Vanishing Duck super 8
Robin Hoodwinked super 8
Tot Watchers 16MM
Matinee Mouse super 8
Shutter Bugged Cat 16MM

[ June 28, 2018, 03:18 PM: Message edited by: Jim Schrader ]

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Winbert that is simply outstanding. We thought we were doing well with 25. A true collector. [Wink]

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Winbert Hutahaean
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Guys thanks.

@Steve J Kirk... it seems to me between Walton, MGM and Film Office there was such competition not to release what other companies had released. Yes there are duplicate on several titles but most of them are not. Then came Derann who released what these 3 companies had deleased plus some new titles.

The obscure companies are those from Dutch and Italy.

@Greg...my all time fav will be those from Fred Quimby era

@Kevin Clark, I have sent you a PM

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Superb work there Winbert, what a wonderful collection. But how were you able to print directly on to the film boxes?

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Winbert Hutahaean
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Jim, now I have to revise my status to become "the man with the most complete Tom & Jerry episode on super 8mm in Indonesia"... [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

BTW, you listed Cabin Cruise, I have checked on the net, I did not find TJ episode with this title. This must be just re-titled of TJ "Cruise Cat".

I have found that those TJs from the Netherlands were titled in different way although it is in English.

There are 12 titles that you have but I did not have, as follows:

Jerry's Diary
The Framed Cat
Slicked up Pup
Nit-Witty Kitty
Just Ducky
Two Little Indians
Puppy Tale
Little Red School Mouse
Neapolitan Mouse
Touché, Pussy Cat!
Muscle Beach Tom
Vanishing Duck

So since I have 102 episodes and you have 104 (minus "Cabin Cruise") there must be around 9 titles that I have but you don't. Can you list it here, perhaps I have duplicate for those titles.

I see you don't have "Filet Meow", "Much Ado about Mousing" (I have multiple copies), "It's Greek to Meow" (I have multiple copies), ...what else?. Perhaps we can work out together to complete each collection. [Wink]

Anyway to answer the questions, both through PM and here, in one reply here my explanation how to make them.

I am not exaggerating here, but it is quite complicate and took so many hours to achieve that.

1. I measure the Walton box and scanned the best box I have as a basic design.

2. I created a pattern of the box where I can cut, fold and glue the pattern to make a solid box.

Here is the pattern:

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ps: there were a lot of hit and misses here, since picture sometime not in the exact position. So I had to do trial and error hundreds time until I got that perfect pattern.

3. I had to find the best white cardboard that I can fold (without breaking it) and had the length more than 11 inch since the pattern was longer than that but not to thick so printer still could take it.

(@Pauld Adsett, this is the way I printed it directly to the paper/cardboard)

4. Now for designing individual cover. This is not an easy job too. I browsed to the net for the most notable scene of each episode. It has to be in high resolution if you want to print better pictures. Sometimes I got them easy if they were popular titles. But for less popular titles it was so hard.

5. Move the scene to the template above.

6. Add (paste) with Tom & Jerry's logo that I already store in my drive.

7 Add the year of production info as always seen in the original Walton's

8. Now, the other hard job is to make the titles of each episode. For the easiest ones, we can just use fonts that available in the computer. But I am a perfectionist. If I did that, every cover will just look the same ..so it will be boring. Therefor what I did was to take every individual fonts from each episode that appear in the first credit title. Here is the example:

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As you can see where the fonts on my cover Peco's Pest and Part Time Pal are taken from.

9. Then I pasted and after giving my cat# no, I printed it

10. Let the prints dry out for about an hour, then I spray with transparent paint to laminate the print in order to avoid it get faded or blurry after years. It also give shiner and brighter picture.

11. Cut the paper according to the pattern, fold, and glue them.

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In total for every individual cover will take about 3-4 hours to finish....and I have 102 titles..... [Big Grin] [Razz] [Eek!]

But I am happy since I am a perfectionist one.

Good luck whoever is going to give a try

cheers,

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Yes cabin cruise is a 50 ft reel of the cruise cat I forgot to leave that out. Those covers look nice I have most of mine in the sturdy white hinged 200ft boxes with the generic derann covers they used with the synopsis's printed on address labels.

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Thanks for that detailed explanation Winbert. You obviously have a commendable level of dedication to this film collecting hobby.

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That's a brilliant collection Winbert [Cool] well done [Smile]

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Bravo !!!

Me also I own a large collection of TOM & Jerry in super8: especially those of Derann but also Walton, Film Office which some in optical sound

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Antoine can you post your lists of titles?

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Winbert Hutahaean
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Jim,

I have checked my list against your list and found what I have but not in your list. There are 13 titles all together, as follows:

O-Solar-Meow
Purr-Chance to dream (I have multiple copies)
Of Feline Bondage
Calypso Cat
Snowbody Loves me
The A-Tom-Inable Snowman
Jerry-Go-Round
The cat's me-ouch
Bad day at the cat rock
Tom and Cherie
Filet Meow
Much Ado about Mousing (I have multiple copies)
It's Greek to Meow (I have multiple copies)

What duplicate copies you have?

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As a fellow "boxer", I bow to your effort - Superb - Cheers, Shorty - Oh, I'll try to find your other titles

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So,with 72 titles plus the ANCHORS AWEIGH extract,all in standard or super 8 color/sound,does it make me the third biggest T&J collector in the world, or Europe,or Greece,or Athens ? Decidedly,I don't like Chuck Jones (I have only one) and Gene Deitch (I have none although I would like to have one or two).
Winbert,your numbering is arbitrary and you don't distinguish among companies. MILLION DOLLAR CAT and JOHANN MOUSE were MGM releases with respective numbers M-107 and M-112. Also,you and the others do not point out the Cinemascope editions. MGM also released flat versions of their Ciemascope films in all gauges (35, 16,and 8mm).I have both versions of SOUTHBOUND DUCKLING,from Cineavision and Derann and there are others too.
I also have the "Cabin Cruise" extract. It was given as a gift by some company as far as I can remember.

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Winbert ...

Should I assume that, not only do you have every Tom and Jerry on super 8, but every issue of each title, that is, if Derann put out "Cat Concerto", you would also have the official MGM, as well as Walton ect ect? [Smile]

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Well done , Winbert and Jim, 102 amd 105 Tom & Jerry's respectivly, Ive just got you beat by a little I have 108 all on super 8 and am still looking, bet you are to,,

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Winbert as of now I don't have any duplicates as I get titles I need I check them out if they don't meet my expectations I keep looking for another copy and sell the others.

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quote:
MILLION DOLLAR CAT and JOHANN MOUSE were MGM releases with respective numbers M-107 and M-112. Also,you and the others do not point out the Cinemascope editions. MGM also released flat versions of their Ciemascope films in all gauges (35, 16,and 8mm).I have both versions of SOUTHBOUND DUCKLING,from Cineavision and Derann and there are others too.
@Panayotis, yes I knew it. But since I was making all as Walton's design, so I just numbered those to TJ on my Walton cat# as it is coincidence this two spaces (TJ 22 & 23) were emptied for an unknown reason, while Walton had TJ until TJ30.

I only collect one version, as I am concerned mainly to the story, not to the version. I was aware that "The Egg and Jerry" was a remake from "Hatch Up Your Troubles" so I just only bought either one.

quote:
Should I assume that, not only do you have every Tom and Jerry on super 8, but every issue of each title, that is, if Derann put out "Cat Concerto", you would also have the official MGM, as well as Walton ect ect?
No Osi, I am not kind of OCD like that [Wink] ... I am just focusing on the story not the version.

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Well done , Winbert and Jim, 102 amd 105 Tom & Jerry's respectivly, Ive just got you beat by a little I have 108 all on super 8 and am still looking
David...you beat me...so I am now even getting lower to the third position [Razz]

Can you also list here what you have?

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