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Topic: Projectors with ability to record sound...why?
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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God
Posts: 5468
From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted September 18, 2016 10:23 PM
Dan, just to give you more information that some projectors have the ability to record sound on sound. It means you can add the sound to the existing sound.
When shooting with sound cartridge you will already have the original sound, e.g human voice/narrator, cars, birds, etc. Later on at home, after processing, you can add with musical soundtrack.
The projector will have the the balance knob where the most left is keeping the original soundtrack, and the most right is adding the new soundtrack. You can turn in between depending which one you one to hear most.
Some stereo projectors can also move the original song to the balance track (left channel). Later you can erase the main track, and put a new soundtrack. This means you film will have bilingual soundtrack.
cheers,
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Melvin England
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 707
From: Hull, East Yorkshire, UK
Registered: Feb 2016
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posted September 19, 2016 12:14 PM
Andrew - I was referring to adding extra sound on top of existing sound on package movies, as I have heard done a couple of times and sounds awful. I completely agree that sometimes the original soundtrack does leave a lot to be desired in the way of audio quality,and that a total re-record of the full reel can significantly improve it.I have heard it.That does require skill and patience and the necessary sync.package that may be beyond the abilities of a lot of people,myself included.
Dan - The information offered by Andrew and all the other contributors to this post is good solid advice that I hope will help you through your super 8 experience.
In response to your 2nd thread on this post, only film that has a magnetic sound stripe down the side of the film can have sound added.You can usually tell if it is sound striped, as it is normally brown in colour and mostly found on the opposite edge of the film from the sprocket holes.This is called the main stripe. You also can get a much thinner stripe down the edge with the sprocket holes.This is called the balance stripe and can also be used to add sound,if the projector is capable of recording on the balance stripe.... not all of them are. The balance stripe is also used if a package movie has stereo sound.
As far as silent film is concerned, I am not sure if there are still companies that do sound striping, or,indeed, whether the stripe is still available for the machines where one can do it themselves. I will throw that one open to our other forum friends who may be able to shed more light on the subject.....
Footnote.
As I was writing this, Dominique posted a thread that answers the striping question.
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Tom Spielman
Master Film Handler
Posts: 339
From: Minneapolis, MN, USA
Registered: Apr 2016
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posted September 23, 2016 02:11 PM
Maurice: A few years ago I was listening to one of my favorite radio programs called "This American Life" The basic premise behind the show is that they get mostly ordinary people to talk about events in their lives. Every show has a theme and they have about 4 different people tell their stories revolving around that theme.
One show might be about first jobs and another might be stories about how small lies turned into elaborate deceptions that eventually came crashing down. Another was about an undercover FBI agent who was assigned to get close to and keep tabs on an individual they thought was suspicious. The problem was that his guy never did anything remotely illegal and didn't appear to be very interested in doing so. It was the FBI agent's job for years and it weighed on him.
Anyway, this particular week there was a portion of the program devoted to home movies. They had people watch and react to home movies from their childhood. Some of them hadn't seen the movies in 20 years or more. One family's movies were markedly different. Instead of holidays, birthdays, and the like, there were movies of them sitting down to dinner, chatting in the kitchen, or watching TV. One of the younger kids might be having a tantrum. Not necessarily happy, smiley stuff but still entertaining.
What was almost universal though is that the home movie making came to an abrupt end once the youngest child reached 12 or 13. The film/video history just stops. I see that happening in my own family. I make a picture book and DVD every year as a gift to my wife for Mother's day. There has been markedly less material to work with the last couple of years.
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