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Matthieu van der Sluis
Master Film Handler

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From: Barendrecht, The Netherlands
Registered: Aug 2017

posted December 02, 2017 09:23 AM

I rather see 24 fps for homemade film, but that's just me.
I really like to make movies on positive film again, so I can play it with my projector, but this is not for sale right?

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Dominique De Bast
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posted December 02, 2017 09:34 AM

Not yet, Matthieu.

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Maurice Leakey
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posted December 02, 2017 09:39 AM

Home movies on reversal film shot at 18fps will give you more for your money than running at 24fps.
24fps is, of course, highly desirable for professional use, perhaps the new Kodak camera is not really designed for amateur and home movie use.

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Matthieu van der Sluis
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From: Barendrecht, The Netherlands
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posted December 02, 2017 10:46 AM

I thought they mentioned around €700 somewhere in the beginning.
Now I believe it will be 4x that amount.
I have to find myself a nice Beaulieu instead, but not intil there is positive film again.

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Rob Young.
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Cheshire, U.K.
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posted December 02, 2017 12:19 PM

The whole thing is ridiculous and will never happen.

Maurice,

"24fps is, of course, highly desirable for professional use, perhaps the new Kodak camera is not really designed for amateur and home movie use".

There is no desire amongst professionals to shoot super 8.

None.

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Jluis Villar
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From: SPAIN
Registered: Oct 2013

posted December 02, 2017 01:12 PM

Hi Rob,i shot in s8 professional works, see some examples,

https://vimeo.com/240297854
https://vimeo.com/111887828
https://vimeo.com/83774924
https://vimeo.com/58302232
https://vimeo.com/69642459

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Paul Adsett
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From: USA
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posted December 02, 2017 02:51 PM

What a travesty! All that engineering expertise and lessons learned over the decades - totally lost! I bet Kodak wish they could get back some of their retired engineers right now. So here they are, unable to recreate Kodachrome, having great difficulty recreating Ektachrome, and apparently unable to manufacture their new S8 camera for under $2,500.00!
I'm not holding my breath on ever seeing S8 Ektachrome reversal film again.

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Jake Mayes
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From: Bath, UK
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posted December 02, 2017 05:16 PM

I think it is more crucial they bring back their reversal film as promised, there are some khal cartridges (between ASA 40 - 200) you can buy from on8mil.com of other stocks other than the AGFA 200 super 8 which i didn't like.

Otherwise the only current option is to shoot neg and have a positive print made by andec if you want to project which is the only lab which prints super 8. There are some reversal stocks out, but too expensive with processing unless like me you process your own and are hard to find. On8Mil has many.

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Rob Young.
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Cheshire, U.K.
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posted December 03, 2017 03:40 AM

Jluis, you should get in touch with Kodak and show them what marvelous results their product is capable of.

Maybe I was a little blunt with my comments, but what I meant was that if Kodak did launch this new, now very expensive camera, I don't know any professionals that would take much interest in it.

Presumably, Jluis, you are happy with your current camera? Would you consider this new one do you think?

I can't believe Kodak are having trouble making new mechanisms...really? Hmmm..sounds more like excuses to me...

Just my opinions. Hopefully I'll be proven totally wrong! [Smile]

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Allan Broadfield
Master Film Handler

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From: Bromley, Kent
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posted December 03, 2017 06:24 AM

I think Rob has it right.
I love the whole rigmarole of film, it's been in my blood since my first projector as a child and subsequent career in the medium, but I think this project must be doomed to failure as nothing seems to add up.
Few amateurs would afford this new equipment, which doesn't yet include a projector, and why would they, when existing equipment is commonplace? Difficulties also with film and processing which is a major cost. Added to that, what advantage for the professional?

[ December 06, 2017, 04:21 AM: Message edited by: Allan Broadfield ]

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Graham Ritchie
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From: New Zealand
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posted December 03, 2017 11:25 AM

Jluis

Those Vimeo videos taken with both the Beaulieu 4008 and Canon 1014 you uploaded look fantastic.

I hope Kodak take notice of them....thanks for sharing them [Smile]

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