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Chip Gelmini
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posted May 15, 2008 09:15 PM

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I don't know why, but the same thing happened to me a few years back.

I was transferring old 8mm movies owned by my brother in law, Jack. The movies had been shot by his father many years ago. I ran the projector to a table top screen, then had my camcorder set to the screen. The camcorder did the conversion from film to video. I passed it through the camcorder and sent it line in to a vcr on the tv system.

While I monitored the transfer between 8mm table top screen (faded) and the TV screen, the TV screen had much better color of the same image. Some kind of color correction happened during the process and I have no clue.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted May 15, 2008 10:45 PM

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Re the print of "Marry". I can see that there are some possibilities:

1. The frames are totally from different lab process (the selller took the shoots from different reels which have different stock or/and lab proess). It can be seen that the white background of the 3 pictures are the same, so there is no possibility of different on bright/contrast/re-colouring process. While the white backgrounds are the same, we can also see the sprocket side of the reddish ones are purplish. So it can be Eastman

2. He just simply took two different films.

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Jan Bister
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posted May 16, 2008 11:51 AM

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Chip, it's really simple: your camcorder automatically adjusted the white balance which, as you correctly guessed, rebalanced the colors.
As a photography buff, I'm surprised you didn't figure that out yourself. [Eek!]

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Brian Hendel
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posted May 20, 2008 08:48 PM

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I can't believe I won three of the six films I bid on from this seller! I was sure I was going to be outbid... I am a little scared (no photos, quality details) but that money back guarantee clause is making me relax a bit. Someone said he's offering that, right?! I won 2001 (for only $125), Straw Dogs (for $60), and Barbarella (for $70, my favorite movie so I needed a second backup print). I'm amazed all his incredible titles didn't go for higher. I have been looking for 2001 for ages and am VERY curious to see what this print is like. I'll report back after I receive them.

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Alan Rik
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posted May 20, 2008 08:59 PM

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I hope someone here won Saturday Night Fever! I bid on it but was outbid. I didn't want to go too high because every print I have ever seen has been warm. Except maybe Paul Fosters? But its $350 US.... [Frown]

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Osi Osgood
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posted May 20, 2008 10:15 PM

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I tried for "The Stranger" (Put in a bid at the last few seconds twice as high as the high bid, but apparently, whoever wanted it, wanted it more than I), but didn't get it. Oh well, I'm sure another print will show up.

Hopefully ...

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Jean-Christophe Deblock
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posted May 21, 2008 05:01 AM

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Hi Alan,

I have a print of "Saturday Night Fever" and the colors are not warm. If you want, I can sell it to you. But, I don't have found the last reel (reel n°7 with +- 100ft , last sequence and end titles ). In place, I've put the last sequence of the 3x400ft featurette.

If interested, let me know what.

Regards,

JC.
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Del Phillipson
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posted May 21, 2008 10:15 AM

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Who won what then ? I bid on 10 items and won 3 (I was the highest bidder on "Straw Dogs" but twas not to be [Eek!]

[Eek!]

) I did win the "Selznick Years", "Grease" and "The Longest Yard" though. Was kicking myself I didn't bid more on "Thats Entertainment", "African Queen" and "King Creole", but you can't win em all [Smile]

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Keith Ashfield
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posted May 21, 2008 10:25 AM

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Like you Del, I was the highest bidder on "The Godfather" and "African Queen", but unfortunately dropped off to sleep just before the auction finished and missed both by a couple of dollars. Drat, drat and double drat!! [Frown]

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Del Phillipson
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posted May 21, 2008 11:24 AM

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Unlucky Keith, can't believe you dropped off, hehe, I had been reading up until midnight and could feel myself dropping to sleep so I got up and played around on the PC till the auction started. I think if I had have been bidding in pounds I would have bid more, but 60 or 70 dollars sounds more than it actually is. Still, I'm happy with my lot (just hope the quality is ok), Del.

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Daniel Isenschmid
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posted May 21, 2008 02:58 PM

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I won Top Hat, Touch of Class, Flying Down to Rio and King Creole. I used to have a copy of Touch of Class and the colors were very good. I hope they will be here as well. I have a print of Top Hat but is was on a blueish color stock, so I hope this will be better.

Del - I hope Selznick Years works for you. My copy was pretty faded. Grease should be great as it was printed in Germany on low fade stock (at least mine was).

Brian - Great price on 2001. I had a copy at one time that was a bit faded - but even so, it would have been worth more than $125. The print of Straw Dogs is edited to 85 minutes - but is a great editing job.

Keith - I have a print of The African Queen listed on the forum:

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I used to have The Godfather and the colors were not that good even to begin with. (They were better on The Godfather, Part II).

Anyway, I think the fact the films were not listed in the Cameras and Photos section not 8mm film category affected the final prices.

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Alan Rik
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posted May 21, 2008 04:05 PM

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And that is why I posted them! [Smile]

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Keith Ashfield
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posted May 21, 2008 04:54 PM

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Thanks for that info Daniel. If I don't "strike lucky" at the BFCC and find "African Queen" there over the weekend I may be in touch. Regards, Keith

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Del Phillipson
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posted May 22, 2008 08:38 AM

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Thanks Daniel, I think we should all be ok, it seems to me that the collection is from a big collector (some of the titles are very rare) and the fact that all the films seem to be on 1200ft spools tells me they have been looked after (my glass is usually half full) anyway the first person to receive anything, please give us all a review, I await fingers crossed. [Smile]

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Osi Osgood
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posted May 22, 2008 08:59 AM

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I'm just curious, who won "The Stranger". I went up as high as 89.00 dollars (an outrageous sum for a black and white film, at least, coming from me) in the last 22 seconds, but apparently, somone wanted even more than I. I hope it wasn't one of those price fixing "one up bidding" programs. Now THAT'S shameful!

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Chip Gelmini
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posted May 22, 2008 09:25 AM

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Now that the auctions are over, did anyone here win a feature? Have you received it yet? Was it as described? Or did you get taken?

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Douglas Meltzer
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posted May 22, 2008 10:14 AM

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A huge round of thanks to Alan Rik for letting us know about the auctions, when he easily could of kept quiet and won them all at a low price (which is something I'd have probably done [Big Grin]

[Big Grin]

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Doug

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Brian Hendel
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posted May 22, 2008 10:40 AM

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Chip - I'm still biting my nails waiting for my three features. I will report back as soon as they arrive which will hopefully be soon! Brian

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Alan Rik
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posted May 22, 2008 11:43 AM

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I just hope for everyones sake they all get nice, clean, and colorful Gorgeous prints with nice Kodak Brown Prestripe!!

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Brian Hendel
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posted May 24, 2008 11:46 AM

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Wow... My big box of films just arrived and I am about to have a great weekend checking my prints. My big surprise already came with 2001. It's not on two 1200' reels as it was described but three! That means it's the full feature... and reeling a little of the film out, the color does not look that bad. I'm in super 8 heaven!

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Douglas Meltzer
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posted May 24, 2008 12:17 PM

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Brian,

You deserve some good luck after suffering through your GS-1200 woes!

Doug

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Brian Hendel
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posted May 24, 2008 12:43 PM

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I agree Doug - Luckily my GS is just back from Leon to play all these 1200' reels... I'm watching 2001 right now and it's amazing ... just a little warm with no major scratches or problems, yet... but it's a long film to get through before I know the whole print is good. I thought it may have been a scope print when it started and I got even more excited- but it turned flat right after the credits. Will report more later... Brian

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Del Phillipson
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posted May 24, 2008 12:44 PM

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Brian, I'm getting all excited now, trouble is I've got to wait another 3 weeks for my delivery [Frown]

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Brian Hendel
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posted May 24, 2008 01:47 PM

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Del - Sorry you have to wait a little bit - but from the looks of my prints it will be worth it. I was nervous about the films having lots of wear because the way they are all in the same cans, it appears they used to be part of a library. They are shipping from Ithaca which is a big college town so I'm assuming they were part of one of the student film libraries... that's just a guess. But I'm watching Barbarella now and again there are no scratches yet. Color is a little warm on this print too... but then again none of the Marketing features look great these days, do they? Haven't checked Straw Dogs yet... will get to that tonight hopefully.

Did someone on here win Rosemary's Baby? I got outbid on that and am wondering how the color is... mine is pretty washed out and was looking for an upgrade.

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Del Phillipson
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posted May 25, 2008 01:28 PM

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Brian, agree with the Marketing comment, I have been very lucky thus far, I have Saturday night fever, The longest yard, The Prophecy and Escape from Alcatraz as 3x400" cutdowns and the colour is very good on all of them, fingers, toes and anything else that is crossable will be crossed [Wink]

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