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Topic: NOT SHIPPING OVERSEAS ????
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Hugh Thompson Scott
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From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 25, 2013 04:31 AM
Thankyou Pat, I have no links whatsoever to the Royal Mail,but
they have been doing it a long time, and experience does count for a lot. The watchword in this modern world is PROFIT, regardless
of anything else, polititians speak of schools returning profit,surely
things have gone ridiculous.The word SERVICE is becoming a dirty word, the National Health Service, which was one of the first of it's kind, providing healthcare to everyone in this country,the clue
being in the third word of it's title,is expected to make a return,
it also had the Private Sector to contend with,that suddenly had
the right to use NHS facilities to make money, jjust the same as
the private delivery companies are doing with the Royal Mail,
which is one sided,and when I learned of how they operate,
very risky for the sender.
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Hugh Thompson Scott
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From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 25, 2013 06:03 AM
That philosophy was operated by a large chemical factory my late
Father worked for as a fitter,where pipes containing corrosives
were maintained.The Managemment didn't care how many cups of
tea/coffee you had, as long as the plant was turning over and
making money,thus making a happy working environment for all
concerned.There is a documentary being shown on Monday David
that might be of interest showing the inadequate service private
delivery companies give to the public, this is in the "Dispatches"
series on Channel Four, the timing is perfect.The point I'm also
making, is that all these outside compaies could not operate
without the help of Royal Mail in the UK.It is they who sort all
the individual parcels, and pass them to the individual private
carriers who have no way of doing this, and lets not forget,were
allowed to steal work from the Post Office in the first place,
which is bound to have a "knock on" effect in charging.This is
the "one way street" government officials operate, and if the same rules were applied to bureaucrats in that they were paid
on results, they would be penniless,On the subject of the
dreaded "Moneygrams", they are an abomination,are next to
useless, are NOT universally accepted, and how they replaced the good old International Money Order, God alone knows., again, government making it easy for outside companies to
undermine something tried and tested for something that makes money for a private operator, and invariably doesn't work.
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David Ollerearnshaw
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1373
From: Penistone Sheffield UK
Registered: Oct 2012
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posted April 25, 2013 12:06 PM
Hugh I used Moneygram to send money to Thailand before my wife come over. Your correct in saying "Moneygrams", are NOT universally accepted. It was OK for me here in the UK as Post Office use them, but in Thailand and proberly other places too, only banks do them. She had to travel on 2 hour bus to main city where the bank was. I forgot that.
We now use Yorkshire Building Society to send money. Its quick, but not as cheap as IMO
Which reminds me does anyone want to sponsor my rubber trees in Thailand, that's where my last bit went.
Don't Barclay's Bank still do International Money Order? I have used these in the past, it was efficient method and quite cheap too. Think it only was a couple of quid last time I used one, up to £500 I think.
Seems to be the thing now. "If it an't broke, break it, then put something in place that is worse, but say you've fixed it.
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Mark L Barton
Jedi Master Film Handler
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From: Bristol, South Glos, England
Registered: Mar 2009
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posted April 26, 2013 06:08 AM
I have posted films and cine equipment around the world with no problems. Of course its upto the buyer to judge the cost of purchase against international postage but when its an item you want, well....
Its really upto the seller if they can be bothered to post overseas. Its no different than a locally shipped package/parcel. Yes there may be a tad more customs paperwork involved but if you want to raise some money, sell of some of your collection etc, then make the effort. There are some countries where you do have a problem, I heard Italy was quite difficult to get an international parcel through, even from Europe. The only time I had any problems was sending a 16mm projector to a guy in China, he hadnt paid anything but knew all the costs involved but was very picky about how the projector was packed, so he sent his own guidance and requested photos of teh various packing stages. Eventually when it was finally packed to his standards (imagine a 16mm B&H TQ3 packed to the extent it looks like a wrapped dish washer..huge|!) Once that was all done and I d spent a small fortune on bubble wrap and packing tape...never heard from him again. D'OH!
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Hugh Thompson Scott
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From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 01, 2013 10:58 AM
Well the documentary was screened on UKs Channel Four, highlighting the treatment parcels receive when in the hands of
private carriers.It seemed to be a competition between the morons
these companies employ, who can damage the most packages.
Computers, TVs etc all came in for a pounding, they were even
recorded looting a case of expensive wine! The managers were all
shocked and promised retribution, but obviously employing
someone as Supervisor was not on the cards.
The private companies delivery of letters faired even worse,
where letters were torn up and left in waste bins or left in unlocked panniers on bicycles for hours on end in the street
where anyone can take them, so much for the private operators
boast of security! One of the large firms said it delivered SIX
days per week, when in actual fact it only does THREE. this comes at a time when the Prime Minister is trying to privatise the Royal Mail, obviously a "backhander" in it for him.
The treatment of packages by private companies certainly
explains a damaged 16mm projector, a burst tin of white gloss
paint, a can of expanding foam exploding and entombing the
rest of the order in plastic and many shattered film cans & broken spools.Not to say that RM are perfect, but next to these
cowboys, they shine.
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Hugh Thompson Scott
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From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
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posted May 02, 2013 04:37 PM
Well done Dave, I can understand people thinking they're getting
a good deal by these companies like DHL, but the truth is they
bring nothing to the table regarding takeovers, mergers usually
cost folks their jobs, and they just use what was an already established business.Thus when you become the only game in town, that's when the prices go up, and then it's too late.
You only have to compare what happened in the UK with Local
Councils that supplied affordable housing, they were hammered by succesive Tory Governments until now we have
private Housing Associations that can charge whatever rent they want. Once a countries own postal system is in private
ownership, it's a very serious backward step.
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Winbert Hutahaean
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Posts: 5468
From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted May 03, 2013 12:07 PM
Thomas as I said earlier as well as in many posts, that there are no specific rules in this forum that seller must sell overseas.
Plus, if you are one of the buyers who accepts the condition that if the parcel is missing in transit that is not the seller's mistake, then you are a good buyer as well as a risk taker buyer.
But not all buyers are also like you as well as not all sellers are risk taker.
I am still sending item overseas. One time I sent a film to South Africa which the seller specifically not wanted to use traecable service. It was $80sh only for the shipping without tracking and I was paid by paypal. On the other hand, Paypal is specifically stated that items must be sent with traceable courier (receipt or proof of posting is not enough, believe me!).
I am a risk taker, so I shipped it to South Africa.
Once the item is missing, I would not only be loosing my film but also $80 for shipping if the buyer submitted a complain to paypal.
There is so much hassle with shipping international, because not all buyers are the same. Most of buyers if they are informed the cost of shipping is that high, first word to burst is "you take money from shipping, don't you?". ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
I once shipped a big box to Norway via sea mail and it arrived 2 months. Lucky the buyer is very patient man. Thanks Vidar. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Hugh Thompson Scott
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From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 03, 2013 12:57 PM
I understand the position you're speaking from Winbert, but the
only problems I ever encountered with missing parcels, were the
ones that were never sent in the first place, this of course does
in no way reflect on an honest seller like yourself or any good folks
on here, but I have encountered this on more than one occasion
where assurances were given, but films refused to appear.Just
lately, a film I bought on ebay many weeks ago, had not been
sent by the seller in an oversight, but have been told it's on it's
way.If the labels are clearly addressed, I see no reason why it
shouldn't reach it's destination, unless like I said,it was never
sent.
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