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Roger Manning Jr
Film Handler

Posts: 67
From: Encinitas CA.
Registered: Dec 2004

posted April 10, 2009 08:56 AM

I finished my big reel set-up please check it out and let me know what you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwnjIgShGcI

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David Erskine
Expert Film Handler

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From: Letchworth Garden City, Herts
Registered: Aug 2008

posted April 10, 2009 11:21 AM

Very good - although I'm lazy so I just stand the Eiki tower behind the 4000P. I'm very impressed by your setup - I'd have given up long ago!! Keep'em rolling.

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Claus Harding
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Washington DC
Registered: Oct 2006

posted April 10, 2009 05:21 PM

Roger,

Very nice space-saving design. I usually just put my tower behind the machine because it's in the living room, but for a compact booth-type setup, you have the right idea here.
I'll keep this in mind for a more permanenet set-up.
You haven't had any problems with scratching in using reels instead of rollers to guide the film?

Claus.

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Michael De Angelis
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: USA
Registered: Jul 2003

posted April 14, 2009 02:47 PM

Very nice compact design,
but I am troubled by the small
spools. One is blue and the other is white plastic,
and they serve as a support pulley to guide the film?
Could this scratch or create scratches in the film?
A polished metal roller would seem to be
an appropriate substitution, as you had used in the
other applications.

Also the traveling distance between the pulleys
and guided around the small metal polished pulley's, leaves
to much variance for a problem to potentially take place.
If there were a 35mm pulley reel that has a larger circumference
than those smaller pulleys, it may alleviate a hazard where the film
slips off the pulley and becomes tangled and torn. However, I don't know
if a larger or deeper pulley would prevent the film to travel in all of
those extreme angels?

If you trust it, then it's fine.

Just my two cents.

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Roger Manning Jr
Film Handler

Posts: 67
From: Encinitas CA.
Registered: Dec 2004

posted April 14, 2009 03:24 PM

Michael,

The two small 50' reels have rubber o-rings on there hub so only the sprocket and soundtrack ride on the reels.

And the smaller chrome rollers do the job well but I feel the same way you do, they need to be a little bit deeper.
I have ran this for over 8 hr. total with no troubles.

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Brad Miller
Administrator

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From: Dallas, TX, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted April 14, 2009 11:37 PM

Kelmar makes a 35mm roller with a deep 16mm flange in the middle. They are fully adjustable and are bearing-based. They would work quite well in this sort of setup.

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Claus Harding
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1149
From: Washington DC
Registered: Oct 2006

posted April 15, 2009 02:18 PM

Brad,
Do you have a link to those rollers? I could probably use a couple myself.

Thanks,
Claus.

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Roger Manning Jr
Film Handler

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From: Encinitas CA.
Registered: Dec 2004

posted April 15, 2009 04:57 PM

I think this is what Brad is talking about.
http://www.kelmarsystems.com/FilmGuidance/FilmGuidCat/filmguidcat03.html

Out of my price range thats why I did not use them.

[ April 16, 2009, 11:21 AM: Message edited by: Roger Manning Jr ]

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Claus Harding
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Washington DC
Registered: Oct 2006

posted April 15, 2009 10:00 PM

Thanks Roger,

Yes, I agree...lovely things, but my goodness, price-wise. I guess I'll go with Wittner's rollers after all, as these things go.

Claus.

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Roger Manning Jr
Film Handler

Posts: 67
From: Encinitas CA.
Registered: Dec 2004

posted April 16, 2009 11:22 AM

Whats a Wittner roller?

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Lars Pettersson
Master Film Handler

Posts: 282
From: Stockholm, Sweden
Registered: Jan 2007

posted April 16, 2009 12:29 PM

Roger,

Wittner is a german company which supplies lots of film stuff. Always great quality, though not cheap. Worlds apart from Kelmars pricerange though. [Big Grin]

http://www.wittner-kinotechnik.de/katalog/07_vorfu/d_rollen.php

Cheers
Lars

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