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From: Johnshaven Village , Montrose, Scotland
Registered: Jan 2015
posted September 29, 2018 08:51 AM
Graham when you are showing a film daily for some weeks you do have time to notice all the print defects but you can also remember a first showing no matter how long ago. Well i can .
I also remember that the sequel THE EMPIRE STRIKE BACK was far from perfect print wise on 35mm at The Odeon cinema i worked in as a film projectionist.
It suffered from a lot of side weave and a "printed in" unsteady image on some shots and a fair bit of film grain too. That was on its first release.
It was not our projection equipment that was at fault as we used a top notch "Rolls Royce" of a machine a PHILIPS DP 70 35mm / 70mm projector for our presentations.
I complained to the renter Fox about those faults and it turned out all prints in the UK were the same.
-------------------- " My equipment's more important than your rats. "
posted September 29, 2018 11:32 AM
I'm sure that there HAS to be some 16MM unaltered 1977 version STAR WARS prints out there somewhere, whether they will be on low fade stock is another matter altogether ...
But I own a super 8 cineavision scope print of the actual 1977 version, on low fade, so that will do for me.
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posted January 23, 2019 11:55 AM
Not only did he relist the film a couple of times at an increased price, but he also padded the postage, going from an initial shipping cost of $14.95 to $17.95. I recall one guy on ebay asking around $100 for that set of six B&W silent 200' BATMAN reels Columbia put out. Sadly, I think someone actually paid the price.
Posts: 3216
From: The Projection Box
Registered: Nov 2006
posted January 24, 2019 03:57 AM
It has already been muted we may well see the original New Hope on Blu-Ray with Lucasfilm now part of Disney, Fox in the loop and the dust settling on the lawsuits. As much as I love my motion picture films some of the ludicrous speed prices that have been paid on the wave of sales I believe has damaged the film collecting scene.
I'm pretty certain we will gradually see a wave of prints up for sale when the confirmed date is given for the 4K disc and accompanying Blu-Ray.
Posts: 3216
From: The Projection Box
Registered: Nov 2006
posted January 24, 2019 07:55 AM
As the decades pass (I used to say years) its more about the memories Mark. Still have my little 200ft of Star Wars New Hope which back then you could buy after you left the Leicester Square Cinema. I guess the reel fun part was travelling home and loading it up on the trusty Eumig probably about 10 times that night but what a day to remember that money will never buy.
Posts: 87
From: Darlington, WA, Australia
Registered: Jul 2013
posted January 24, 2019 06:46 PM
Maybe I should try and flog off my copy of Star Wars which is faded pinkish and well worn but still runnable with very few splices. Its the 16mm scope version of the 1977 release of Star wars.
A blue green filter helps a lot to bring much of the colour back.
Posts: 873
From: Southern England
Registered: Apr 2008
posted February 06, 2019 03:59 PM
Incidentally, that 'despecialized Edition' is great, as close to the original experience as we are likely to get. It is currently available on 'Internet Archive' as 'Star Wars 1977.' Search for that or here is the direct link. It is 720p and requires a one third stretch as given by a widescreen television. This is the direct link: