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Winbert Hutahaean
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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
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posted May 27, 2005 03:19 AM

Finally I bid an auction in Ebay and I won it. But since I did in rush I just skipped the information that was in Germany. i heard someone here could translate it. if I am not mistaken that's Jan Bister? This is the decription (this can be found at http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1476&item=6398115902&rd=1):

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Zur Versteigerung steht der Filmklassiker „Die Wildgänse kommen“ in der 4 x 110m UFA – Komplettfassung. Der Film befindet sich auf zwei 240m Spulen in etwas ledierten Plastikschobern ( die Klappenscharniere sind abgebrochen). Es sind jeweils noch alle Filmanfänge vorhanden. Der Film ist altersentsprechend etwas rotstichig, die Schärfe und der Ton haben die übliche UFA – Qualität. Wenige Laufstreifen.

Der Film ist etwas trocken und läuft bei mir etwas holperig durch den Projektor, mit etwas Alkohol sollte sich das allerdings wieder geben.

Sicherlich ein Klassiker, der in keiner guten Sammlung fehlen sollte.

( Bitte beachten : Das Abfotografieren des Films ist mit meiner eher einfachen Digitalkamera schwierig, die Bilder geben nicht die eigentliche Schärfe wieder! Die tatsächliche Bildqualität ist besser, als es auf den Bildern zu erkennen ist.)

Die Ebay-Gebühren übernehme ich, viel Spaß beim Bieten.

Schauen Sie sich auch meine anderen Auktionen zum Thema Super 8 an.

Da es sich um einen gebrauchten Artikel handelt kann ich keine Garantie übernehmen.

I also won antoher auction that can be seen at http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1476&item=6398102264&r

the information says:

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piccolo film 2404 + 2405 also kompletter film
zustand : normale geringe gebrauchsspuren siehe bild , das band der zweiten spule sieht nicht mehr so toll aus,anfangs sind relativ viele flecken drauf die auch mehrere meter zu sehen sind dann aber je länger das band wird immer geringer werden.ob sie ganz aufhören habe ich nicht geprüft.ich kann bei dem zweiten band nicht sagen ob der film/ton ohne fehler abspielbar ist
ich habe einen posten alter super 8 filme gekriegt kann aber die bänder leider nicht testen weil ich den projektor dazu nicht habe.die bänder wurden am anfang optisch geprüft und sehen alle sehr gut aus.sollten unerwartete probleme auftauchen nehme ich alles incl. erstattung der portokosten zurück! aber wie gesagt optisch sieht alles sehr gut aus und was soll schon gross daran kaputtgehen können,ist ja kein neuzeitlicher digitalschrott...
versandkosten siehe unten

versand / postage
bieter aus deutschland können mich per banküberweisung oder per paypal(nicht über kreditkarte) bezahlen oder den artikel bei mir zuhause abholen(nach terminvereinbarung)
bieter ausserhalb deutschlands können mich per banküberweisung oder per money order bezahlen oder per paypal(nicht über kreditkarte).schecks oder kreditkartenzahlungen kann ich nicht akzeptieren.bargeld im brief nur sehr ungern und nur bei voller verantwortungsübername des käufers

I won these two for a very good price, but I am not sure about the condition based on the above information. Is the second information saying that the movie in color or B/W? The movies may be in terrible condition. So please someone translate for me.

thanks,
Winbert

Thanks,
Winbert

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Jan Bister
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posted May 27, 2005 04:20 AM

OK, first item is "Die Wildgaense kommen" - originally 4x110m (or roughly 4x360ft) mounted on two 800ft reels. Original leaders and tails are present (except for where reels were spliced together, I'm assuming). Slight red shift due to age, picture and sound are "of typical UFA quality" (which IMHO is pretty decent). He also says the film is dry and chatters through the projector so it needs lubricated - then he goes on to suggest that alcohol should do the trick, which of course I must advise against. [Wink]

Second item - I have no idea what film that is, but seller says "slightly used, see pictures," then mentions that the second reel appears to have spots on the film for several meters which become less frequent further into the film - he has no projector to test so he's not sure if the spots eventually just stop or continue throughout the film. Hmm, I hope it's just dirt & grime which can be cleaned off and not water damage. He's not saying whether this film is in color or B/W; as I said I have no idea what Piccolo titles 2404 and 2405 are [Confused]

but generally if something was in color then Piccolo made super-8 prints in color as well... so... it depends on the title [Big Grin]

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Kevin Faulkner
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posted May 27, 2005 06:30 AM

Hi Winbert/Jan, I use Babelfish for translations. Just put the url into the page and then select German to English and hey presto.

Kev.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

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Jan Bister
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posted May 27, 2005 06:03 PM

Babelfish works nicely indeed, I've used it to translate those Italian super-8 pages into English. [Smile]

But nothing beats the translation capabilities of a real human so I was more than happy to offer mine [Cool]

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted May 27, 2005 08:47 PM

Thank Jan for the translation and also Kevin for the suggestion. I have also tried that interntet translator but since some results sound funny in English, therefor I follow Jan that Human translation is much better. Moreover, human (especially those 8mm maniacs) could feel it if the seller trying to hide something on the film condition.

Anyway, whatever the "Wild Geese" condition is, it is only 16 EUR film. This is my first bidding and seems I would addict to it [Wink]

Thanks again folks

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Kevin Faulkner
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posted May 28, 2005 06:16 AM

Winbert/Jan, I agree that the human touch is much nicer but there are times when you want a very quick translation. I have to say though that sometimes the translation you get is very funny beacuse of course its all very literal. [Big Grin]

Kev.

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Jan Bister
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posted May 28, 2005 09:57 AM

Couldn't agree more. It just gets me when Babelfish insists on referring to projectors as floodlights. [Big Grin]

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Kevin Faulkner
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posted May 28, 2005 10:34 AM

Well it must be meaning the GS Xenon. See, they got it right [Big Grin]

Kev.

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Jan Bister
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posted May 28, 2005 11:19 AM

LOL!!! That made me laugh out loud. Excellent. [Big Grin]

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Douglas Meltzer
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posted May 28, 2005 11:15 PM

The internet translator always tells me that "Bauer" projectors are actually made by farmers.

Doug

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Andreas Eggeling
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posted June 04, 2005 02:12 PM

LOL , the last "German Farmers" were made in Malaysia. [Big Grin]

Winbert, Jan,
the second film is "The Naked and the Dead (1958)". It is a piccolo film release from the early 70s. Only b/w prints released!!!
The one parter from the english market can be edited together
with the piccolo two parter. A collector said to me that it will be nearly a three parter.

The Wild Geese.
What is typical UFA-Quality? The shaprness of this release is much over the average 70s standard. Now there exists prints turned red and prints in still stunning color.

Jan, what means "IMHO"? Babelfish can´t translate. [Big Grin]

If I need a good spanish translation than I use the translation from german to french first, and then from french to spanish.

[ June 04, 2005, 04:12 PM: Message edited by: Andreas Eggeling ]

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Jan Bister
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posted June 04, 2005 07:18 PM

I thought the last Bauers were made in Italy by Silma, not in Malaysia. [Smile]

IMHO means "in my honest opinion" (or "humble opinion"). [Wink]

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Andreas Eggeling
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posted June 05, 2005 05:33 AM

Hi Jan,

I have two Bauer T610, one is made in Germany, the second is "made in Malaysia", bought in 1985.

Andreas

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David Pannell
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posted June 05, 2005 01:07 PM

Has anyone tried "Freetranslation.com"? I find it works pretty well too. I haven't tried Babelfish, though. I'll give it a go next time.

Dave.

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