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Andrew Wilson
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 - posted June 29, 2006 12:51 PM      Profile for Andrew Wilson   Author's Homepage         Edit/Delete Post 
hi there fellow members,is it true that mr.lucas is set to release the star wars movies again.
but this time without the added scenes.
that means the way we the public saw them in
1977,1980,1983.
i wonder why?.andy.

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Dimitrios Kremalis
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 - posted June 29, 2006 02:33 PM      Profile for Dimitrios Kremalis   Email Dimitrios Kremalis   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
To be able to sync pulse them with the Super-8 version perhaps? [Big Grin] Well, just wishful thinking [Smile]

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Andrew Wilson
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yes that would be possible.it would be nice too.andy.

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Barry Attwood
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 - posted June 29, 2006 04:23 PM      Profile for Barry Attwood   Email Barry Attwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Andy,

Technically the original films are a bonus disc, as for the 1st time Lucas is releassing the special editions seperately, and the original cuts are being released as an extra, there going to be widescreen, but only DD2.0 (Doly Pro Logic) sound, and they will only be available for I believe 3 months.

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Andrew Wilson
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 - posted June 29, 2006 05:03 PM      Profile for Andrew Wilson   Author's Homepage         Edit/Delete Post 
thanks for the info barry.so the original movies will have the same soundtracks as the old laser discs.
should have good quailty sound.andy.

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John Clancy
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But probably not as good as the laser discs!!!

Still, it's good the bloke has finally come to his senses. Now everyone can sling away all that butchered re-hashed rubbish and see the films as they really were.

Now that should get some debate going!!!

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Joerg Polzfusz
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I fear that this is only a rumor - like the DVD-Versions of Episode I, II and III that enables you to switch to a version without any apperance of Jar Jar Binks [Wink]

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Douglas Meltzer
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If only there was a DVD version of Episode I that refused to let itself be played!

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Robert Wales
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Sadly, 14 year-old laserdisc transfers are being used for the original trilogy with no anamorphic enhancement for widescreen televisions. Lucas claims the originals 'no longer exist' so newer elements are not available for transfer.

Many fans are planning to pass on this debacle in protest.

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Kevin Faulkner
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This is just want we need for pulse sync with the versions on super 8 [Smile] Rleased by Derann and the German lab.
The vesions on super 8 are the same cut as the original LD's and VHS tapes so for the pulse sync fans this is great news. [Smile]

Kev.

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Andrew Wilson
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i dont think it matters robert.its star wars.i agree with you
john that lucas has at last bowed to public presure.
or maybe he needs the dosh?.andy.

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Robert Wales
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It matters to a lot of people, Andrew. Home Theatre forum has a 47 page thread devoted to just this issue. The die -hard fans who were pushing for the original trilogy are also the ones who are most vocal about quality of the discs. The casual fans will see no need to upgrade to a new edition just because it has the 'old' versions of the films as bonuses.

With the massive improvements in video transfer technology in the 14 years since the laser masters were created the originals will look dull indeed to anyone with a decent video system.

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Jan Bister
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Please.... no more Jar Jar Binks hate! I never did understand what kind of problem people had with the character!!! [Mad]

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Michael De Angelis
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I never recognized the
parallel, but some ethnic
and political groups mentioned
Jar Jar Binks persona
to the Black Hollywood character actor
Stepin Fetchit. [Confused]

Stepin Fetchit / Wikipedia Encyclopedia

CNN news on Jar Jar

Jar Jar controversy - Wikipedia

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Jan Bister
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What did I just say? [Roll Eyes]

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Michael De Angelis
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Agreed! [Smile]

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John Clancy
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Somehow I doubt the quality of new DVD's created from the laser disc masters will actually offer better quality than the laser discs. If I see one of these DVD's (if they are really going to be released) and it looks superior to the equivalent laser disc I'm going to run a lens cleaner through the laser player immediately.

P.S. I thought Jar Jar Binks was hilarious.

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Andrew Wilson
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i with you on that one john
i think lucas did listen to
the public outrage to the beloved star wars.
the messeage is simple-no tinkering or glossing over
of those sci-fi classics.
i wonder why the negs.are no longer availble.
its a shame.andy.

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Kevin Faulkner
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I must say that I'm really surprised that the original negs no longer exist. Maybe they were damaged etc in all the subsequent messing over the years.

I have to say that the versions I have on LD are excellent and at least they dont have any lossy compresion. Maybe this is the reason he's using LD. I'm also surprised that he cant get his hand s on any High Band masters because I would think that would have been the route the LD's and various video formats would have come from.

Strange story indeed.

Kev.

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Barry Attwood
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I think it's a case of wait and see on this, as I can't see Lucas actually releasing a sub-standard picture quality DVD, he'll get away with the DD2.0 soundtrack, that how it was originally recorded anyway, but I think we may get a pleasant surprise (hopefully, anyway!).

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Michael De Angelis
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Lucas has the unique gift
in presenting a shroud
of mystery and suspicion
for the devotees of Star Wars.

I'm confused.

Does this indicate that
these films will not be released in
widescreen on the DVD? [Confused]

In today's 'digital age,'
it just seems incomprehensible.

It seems reminiscent in comparing
two versions of The Unholy Three
with Lon Chaney.

BTW, I too enjoyed Jar Jar Binks.

Michael

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Douglas Meltzer
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Perhaps we could change Jan's title from "Darth 8mm" to "Jan Jan" ?

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Jan Bister
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Only if you change yours to Jabba The Doug [Razz]

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John Clancy
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Lucas appears to be leading people up the garden path here... the original negatives were restored in 1997. Where the orginal had deteriorated to an extent where it was unusable for all practical purposes Lucas presented one of his two personal Technicolor prints of the film. From this new sections of the damaged (i.e. faded) negative were struck. Once the whole of the original negative was restored and preserved on new safety stock then work on re-hashing the film commenced. But the important thing here is the original negative was salvaged before it had deteriorated to the extent of being unusable.

But even if he does resort to producing the DVD from the laser disc master there is no reason for it not to be in widescreen as they appeared letterbox on laser. Also, 16x9 was first developed on laser disc even though it never made an appearance on sell-through discs. I just wish I knew what the 16x9 button on my Pioneer LD 1750 actually did.

Finally, if the original Dolby Stereo tracks are encoded into Dolby Digital they are unlikely to be as good as the genuine Dolby Stereo tracks on the laser disc.

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Many cannot understand why the 5 channel mix from the 70mm prints will not be used.

It's almost as if Lucas is deliberately stacking the deck to make the revised versions appear better in every way.

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