From: Letchworth Garden City, Herts
Registered: Aug 2008
posted February 21, 2011 04:59 AM
Don Currie has/had one of these - he was (until recently) a prolific film-maker [in Single 8] and a a prize winner. Just thought I'd throw in my two pennorth! Cheers, David E
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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
posted February 21, 2011 06:36 PM
quote: can anyone explain how the company stays in business,
Perhaps they have spare parts fro old Steenback super 8 which they can now upgrade and re-sell for money (rather than just put on garbage)
I believe, similar with high end transfer (rank cinetell?) which professionally used for 16mm and 35mm, to convert to 8mm is not a big deal. So since Steenback for 16mm and 35mm are still widely used, they can also convert to 8mm...perhaps??
From: the Netherlands
Registered: Nov 2005
posted February 28, 2011 02:45 AM
Archives use filmtables and might be their main buyers. Last year I worked for Sound & Vision in the Netherlands at the small format department where we did acquisition, description, conservation and digitalisation. There are loads of 16mm editing tables, some 35mm and in the picture you can see the super-8/16mm/35mm table we used. There also is an old 16mm table converted to regular-8. Until now there were no combined super-8/regular-8 tables, so this new Steenbeck table might be very usefull for archives and others.
Commag = combined magnetic and Sepmag = seperate magnetic. So commag is a striped film and sepmag means the audio is on perfo, audio cassette or something else.
From: Berlin, Germany, Europe, Earth, Solar System
Registered: Apr 2006
posted February 28, 2011 04:01 AM
quote: What do they mean 'COMMAG sound'? ... Do they mean sound stripe?
Yes. There's "COMMAG" (magnetic soundtrack on the film), "COMOPT" (optical soundtrack on the film) and "SEPMAG" (soundtrack on a separate media, normally tape - however it looks like the term is also used for sync'ed CDs/DVDs/...). Not sure how the 16mm-/35mm-films that do have both a magnetic and optical soundtrack on the film are called - The German Wikipedia says "MAGOPT", but I guess it should be "COMMAGOPT"?!
posted March 16, 2011 06:13 AM
This flatbed table is intended for archives as well as for companies that offer 8mm film transfers. Although it may be used for the editing of silent films, it lacks the central function of professional editing machines - the facility to edit the picture and a separate (magnetic) sound track independently but in sync.
Adrian: I do also wonder how they can stay in business these days. The traditional company of Steenbeck in Hamburg/Germany went bankrupt in 1999. A Dutch company took over and continued production of the well-known line of Steenbeck editing machines. But what happened last autumn was really something like a sensation: Apart from the 8mm model, they have introduced a whole product range of completely new designed editing machines in 16mm and 35mm (2-, 4- and 6-plates). Steenbeck tables have never been cheap, and even the models for Super-8 were not affordable for amateur film-makers when Steenbeck built all its machines in large numbers in the 1970's.
Winbert: I can't imagine that they are re-using old technology from the 1970's. Nowadays, customers expect a much better picture than what was possible then. And no, I don't think that it is easy to convert 16mm or 35mm tables to 8mm, as a different complex optical system is necessary for each gauge.
Joerg: Prints with both kinds of soundtracks are called MAGOPTICAL.